Just to point out

[maynard]

here's what I want you 2 do.... invest some fucking time into the game, you might think your 80 hours average over like 4 years on 4 servers is impressive, but it's a joke.

the first people who are looked at for clan are the ULA's now. so I would obviously suggest going for that position if you want clan. if you need 2 ask how you get clan, you just don't get it.. try looking at all the other people who are working their asses off for a spot in the clan.... maybe you will learn something from them.

ibis also doesn't expect or ask any one 2 purchase admin. we simply give you the option, and most do it for their own personal means... it's easier 2 have admin in the servers you always play.. we all know this. it's the people who truly care about this community, and put into it that we look at.

as i said in your app.... feel free 2 make another anytime... but do it with some real reasons that you deserve clan. there's lots of people busting their ass for a spot, I'm not going 2 fuck them over by voting for someone who hasn't done 1/10th of the work they have for the position.

get some real reasons 2 support you, and ill be there doing it, I promise.

[Assassin]

And yes maynard I get that...and again I'm not against proving myself with effort...what I am against it proving myself while spending money to have to do it. How about instead of ULA's as the only way in...how about a seperate group like upper vets (no...no admin privs given or anything stupid like that) but for people who do love this community and support it the best they can without having to pay for it?

[StarsMine]

I have an idea assassin, Make a group of IBIS vets on steam, help the community in that way, You get to pick who you think is worthy, or set up a systemto pick those who are worthy to be an ibis vet. As you said they would not get benifites.

Ibis assholes started that way, and so did the ibis mages.

It improves the community, keeps the vets comming back, and gives new guys an easier goal to strive towards.
There is a way to show your dedication AND leadership skills (something that the clan values now)

[maynard]

And yes maynard I get that...and again I'm not against proving myself with effort...what I am against it proving myself while spending money to have to do it. How about instead of ULA's as the only way in...how about a seperate group like upper vets (no...no admin privs given or anything stupid like that) but for people who do love this community and support it the best they can without having to pay for it?

I see where you're coming at from the money angle... but think of it from mine... I've paid into admin for almost 3 years strait now lol... I don't get admin free for being clan, us clan pay for it, cause we're the kind of people who support the community and do it happily... plus... wha'ts 11 a month... lol it's peanuts. The ULA's are busting their asses off daily for the clan... so it's almost impossible 2 not look towards them for clanship before everyone else as they are not only policing and keeping our servers safe, but they are supporting them by paying into them. this community does not run hugs and kisses.. it runs on cold hard cash, we need 2 generate it, and the more we do, the more options we have in the future 2 expand into other games or take the community into other directions

if you want 2 just be an admin, and enjoy the community and have fun, go for it! but saying you want clan is a totally diff matter... that's where push comes 2 shove.

clan is not for everyone.. it's for those who want it, and work for it. and we make you work damn hard =)

[Assassin]

Yeah i get that.

[maynard]

you don't seem to know that I personally know and talk to on a reg basis a couple of the clan members (if they are still considered them as I haven't seen most of them in awhile...go figure)

how the fuck do you regularly talk with people who aren't on? it's things like this that piss me off... if I'm drunk, and stoned, and can correct you.. it's like... wtf? hoenstly? don't try and act like you know wtf is going on, or you're big time when you can't even get a simple story strait... it's just completely ridiculous

and Clan isn't a street trap lol... we're not asking you 2 invest or do anything! we're giving you the option provided you want 2 take it... Nothing more. at no point will you ever be asked or preassured into purchasing admin lol.

you clearly don't understand clan is for the dedicated, and it's probably cause you aren't.

[Assassin]

What? Dude I have had deep discussion with dual and nysco and whyte (god rest his soul) along with...ya know r@pe being a very close friend of mine. I know all of the old school admins...like I don't see why you wouldn't think i know these pople we gamed in for months together all the time back in the day..you don't think I have ways of getting ahold of em?

I even talk to rico on occasion...though that's less and less these days.

[StarsMine]

Enough name dropping already. We get it, you hung with the old clan. But this is NOW, not then.

[Carmichal]

Everyone you mentioned isn't here anymore except rape and rico?

Pretty much what star has said

[maynard]

What? Dude I have had deep discussion with dual and nysco and whyte (god rest his soul) along with...ya know r@pe being a very close friend of mine. I know all of the old school admins...like I don't see why you wouldn't think i know these pople we gamed in for months together all the time back in the day..you don't think I have ways of getting ahold of em?

I even talk to rico on occasion...though that's less and less these days.

here's a news flash. NYS and DUAL quit clan. Whyt has passed away (god bless)and they haven't regularly been here in like several years.. so the fact you're bringing up conversations with the 3 of them like it's relevant is just beyond asinine.

Rape is still around though, and he's good people.


this isn't 3-4 years ago, realize that, please.