Zero i'm requesting an option to be looked into and possibly changed

[Chef C Green]

i didn't know u can improve ur rank as a zombie. i found that out 3 months ago when a regular was banned because of it.

You were here when Hallwagner was still playing...? I think his ban was for a different reason, but one of the complaints on him (aside from the racism and such) was for speccing and going zombie on ze_boatescape (broken one) and raping for the skillpoints. Just saying, this isn't exactly a new thing?

I agree the the BTO mod would be a much more justifiable solution for fixing rank manipulation, because making zombie kills not count is basically taking the fun out of being a zombie. It would be viewed as "Shoot, i just got tagged, can't make any points now, I'm going to go afk and wait till I'm human again.", causing zombies to be even WORSE of a challenge for humans, and probably lead humans to being more daring and going z-hunting. We'd see a rise of scout, knife, and nade kills just because those get the highest points and rank would probably get even FURTHER screwed. You can't favor one side if you want balance... that's all.

As for removing the ranking system in general... meh. Idc about rank so much as weapon stats as Meltdown mentioned, purely because the ranking system has such extremes (I'm like 15-16, and I have 7k or so in skill points? while Fallen has something like 20k+ for #1 spot?). Doing a rank reset (while keeping weapon stats intact if at all possible?) when the BTO mod is voted onto the servers would be a nice "Re-opening of IBIS Z-Mod" to get players stoked, but input from the top 50 or so should be taken into account as most have put a LOT of time into those stats.

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

You were here when Hallwagner was still playing...? I think his ban was for a different reason, but one of the complaints on him (aside from the racism and such) was for speccing and going zombie on ze_boatescape (broken one) and raping for the skillpoints. Just saying, this isn't exactly a new thing?

I agree the the BTO mod would be a much more justifiable solution for fixing rank manipulation, because making zombie kills not count is basically taking the fun out of being a zombie. It would be viewed as "Shoot, i just got tagged, can't make any points now, I'm going to go afk and wait till I'm human again.", causing zombies to be even WORSE of a challenge for humans, and probably lead humans to being more daring and going z-hunting. We'd see a rise of scout, knife, and nade kills just because those get the highest points and rank would probably get even FURTHER screwed. You can't favor one side if you want balance... that's all.

As for removing the ranking system in general... meh. Idc about rank so much as weapon stats as Meltdown mentioned, purely because the ranking system has such extremes (I'm like 15-16, and I have 7k or so in skill points? while Fallen has something like 20k+ for #1 spot?). Doing a rank reset (while keeping weapon stats intact if at all possible?) when the BTO mod is voted onto the servers would be a nice "Re-opening of IBIS Z-Mod" to get players stoked, but input from the top 50 or so should be taken into account as most have put a LOT of time into those stats.

I wouldn't care if my stats got reset, if everyone got reset to 0 at a level playing feild it would just create alot of increased activity for the first month or so as players become active to get ahead of others. Maybe then I will see some players actually play certain maps then spectate or leave.

[alex_mamaroneck]

Ness
i don't care about my rank. i actually make fun of my rank in the zm server, i'm sure u know that since u have almost as much hours that i have playing in the ZM. No i will not give those names Ness. i'm not a rat. i mean would you rather have regulars in the server who can cade well, or would u rather have annoying newbie-toddlers who don't know how to spell "SERVER RULES"???

all i ask is to simply remove the points, that are link to a players' ranks, while they are zombies during escape maps

OR

for those players, who log in late or on stay on spectate, they cannot spawn as a zombie until the round is over

Chef-green:
no i honestly didn't know Hallwagner got in trouble for rank manipulation. i thought he got in trouble cause he disrespected a clan. but during his last weeks i would be the first admin he would call when there is a rule breaker. but like i said before i pay more attention to the MOTD rules and this rank manipulation is still new to me

but all i want is for this zm server not minimize the loss of regulars or admins.

[Meltdown]

Reset the rank would be nice and fresh with the new system in place. But Removing the ranking would be much more of help, zombie mod is survival of the fittest and kill on sight or die trying, non of these 2 things I see at the moment in zombie mod, simple because most people care for rank more.

[alex_mamaroneck]

Reset the rank would be nice and fresh with the new system in place. But Removing the ranking would be much more of help, zombie mod is survival of the fittest and kill on sight or die trying, non of these 2 things I see at the moment in zombie mod, simple because most people care for rank more.

ok so how about this:

1) players cannot spawn after zombie spawn time until the next round especially for escape maps
2) reset all ranks in ZM
3) and what zero said: reward humans who finish the escape map

[acolyte_to_jippity]

i agree with giving no rank increase for tagging as a zombie. in addition:

1) completely and 100% remove zspawn. you join late, you wait.
2) remove rank decrease for getting tagged
3) give bonus to humans who survive the map (any map)
4) give good sized increase (weapon dependent) for killing a zombie

[T3h tyrant]

i agree with giving no rank increase for tagging as a zombie. in addition:

1) completely and 100% remove zspawn. you join late, you wait.
2) remove rank decrease for getting tagged
3) give bonus to humans who survive the map (any map)
4) give good sized increase (weapon dependent) for killing a zombie

I do really like this idea.. that would kick ass

[alex_mamaroneck]

i agree with giving no rank increase for tagging as a zombie. in addition:

1) completely and 100% remove zspawn. you join late, you wait.
2) remove rank decrease for getting tagged
3) give bonus to humans who survive the map (any map)
4) give good sized increase (weapon dependent) for killing a zombie

“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.” - Albert Einstein

well lets hope Zero can agree on these ideas....
we lost a fellow player who rank manipulated and came back as another account and got banned again within a week

[Meltdown]

Good idea's to work with. We need more zombie with balls and less pussy cluster fuck humans.