Next time someone bitches about impalance

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Free lesson for u too, just because its my first post doesnt mean im new to the server.
And whats the point of counter one race just to help the team if u dont have fun or dont get anything by doing it? Here u cant go past the skill level cap so if u play a maxed race u cant get more levels and i hate playing maxed races. I rather play a race i like and isnt maxed than playing one just to win rounds.

1) post your info so we can tell if you're actually new to the server or not. because as it is, you're just some whining prick coming in off the street telling us how we should run our server. if you want respect, you need to show us why you deserve some.
2) while I do think races should be able to over-level, that is A: not possible with war3 as it's hard-coded into the mod, and B: how it is. it's been brought up in the past, and the decision was to keep it as is. if you don't like playing maxxed races, then play a different race. if you've maxxed them all, don't know what to tell you mate. good job, you've won the game.

LOL.

A server with only 21 slots that isnt always full cant be described as "extremely successful". Successful maybe.
I love wcs and i like to play here so i just want the server to get better and bigger(if possible).

you love wcs, fine. i can easily tell that. but you sure as hell don't love playing here. if you did, you might have had a bit more respect when you came in here telling us exactly how we should run the server. we're returning it to be exactly the same (minus one or two slight differences) to the old server we had before the OB update.

Then his ultimate should be reworked or the code that block their ultimate should be removed from lace's code. Restricting shouldnt be an option.

qq.

vaga and vagalion are restricted for good reasons. 1) they are extremely powerful, and we do tend to try keeping the environment somewhat new-player-friendly. 2) they were restricted on the old server. end of discussion.

[LogaN]

1) post your info so we can tell if you're actually new to the server or not.

Sent u a pm with my psychostats page.

(...)telling us how we should run our server.(...)

Where did i say how u should run the server? I just said that if the server is balanced as u say why r awp, auto and some races retricted to 0/1?

2) while I do think races should be able to over-level, that is A: not possible with war3 as it's hard-coded into the mod, and B: how it is. it's been brought up in the past, and the decision was to keep it as is. if you don't like playing maxxed races, then play a different race. if you've maxxed them all, don't know what to tell you mate. good job, you've won the game.

Before the huge update u could go past the max skill level in the server i played there was a guy named n0life and he only played with undead scourge he was level120+ with it LOL. Thats why i mentioned it.

And i dont like to play with maxed races just to win rounds when i dont have fun playing with them and i have others that i like and arent maxed, its a waste of time.

If u dont want to change the max level cap u could add a menu where u could save xp/levels so u can play those maxed races to help ur team and then use it on the other races...

U could also add xp bonus to knife kills because knife races r harder to get kills when u r low level. Adding bonus to head shots would be also nice so ppl would try to aim at the head instead just "spray and prey" with p90 xD

vaga and vagalion are restricted for good reasons. 1) they are extremely powerful, and we do tend to try keeping the environment somewhat new-player-friendly. 2) they were restricted on the old server. end of discussion.

Like i said i dont think that retricting shoould be an option, more ppl should be able to enjoy them.
In the server i played there was 3 races one with highspeed/low grav scout/knife 80% invisible or more and was rectricted to 2/3 another one 100% invible with just a scout and other 100% with a USP but they werent OP because they dint have everything like vagabond and vagalion do.
They have flickering, high speed, low grav, invisibility, skill that increases dmg and finaly the thing that makes them OP, their ulti wich is spammable. They would still be strong with half the things they have!

Btw they awp and auto r retricted?...

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From what I've seen, he can't really base his opinion, so he just ignores the normal comments and then answers the trolls. Not impressed.

U r so smart, u know this forum doesnt tell u when u press "post" that someone already made a post while u were writing ur post?... post, post, post why so many -.-

[Erdenay]

U r so smart, u know this forum doesnt tell u when u press "post" that someone already made a post while u were writing ur post?... post, post, post why so many -.-

Yet you still fail to answer to any of my points... Or some valid points raised by others.

[LogaN]

Yet you still fail to answer to any of my points... Or some valid points raised by others.

Wich points? u r the ones failing at explaining why awp/auto are retricted and why do u say that both vagas arent op when they are retricted to one.
I already explained some of my points and some of my sugestions to acolyte_to_jippity wich was the only one that was nice and respectful.

[brett friggin favre]

Wich points? u r the ones failing at explaining why awp/auto are retricted and why do u say that both vagas arent op when they are retricted to one.
I already explained some of my points and some of my sugestions to acolyte_to_jippity wich was the only one that was nice and respectful.

i was actually being pretty courteous in my first post.

i explained to you why we didn't have a crapton of races. i have also explained why some are restricted. you still sit over there slinging insults my way from behind some mask of anonymity which really doesn't help your case at all.

to directly address awp/auto:
awp is restricted because 1) it really doesn't fit into a wcs style of gameplay, at least not ours, and 2) it would throw off the balance with some of the racial skills we have here. some would need to be retooled, and there's no reason for it because of reason 1

auto is restricted because it's a goddamn scout on full auto. which is complete bs, encourages noobery, and really not a single person has complained about it, and the fact that you complain about it makes you sound even more like an idiot.

[LogaN]

oh i saw ur "points" i didnt read it before because i took a look at this and didnt read more:

This clearly shows how little you've played...

I have 152hours of game play in this server in just a few months if that isnt enough im sorry cs isnt my life.

They are restricted to BALANCE the server.

U shouldnt restrict to balance u should nerf/buff to balance.

Both vaga (especially Lion) are really easy to counter (...).

Again if they r easy to counter why r they retricted doesnt make sense.

AWP is restricted because it's the most powerful item in the game and it would make it way to imbalanced and not fun. Scout needs much more skill than awp, thus it's here and AWP is not.

LOL?!?! Since when Scout takes more skill? U can hit with a scout with no scope from miles away u can jump/run with it and hit someone easily, u cant do that with an awp.
Awp and auto are part of the game they shouldnt be retritcted...

We want WCS to be a strategic game where you have to at least think about what you're doing, how you're doing and how you're going to play versus just playing CoD and going berserk with no strategy.

So u want it to be a strategic game but u retrict awp and auto wich make part of the game and take part of the strategy... doesnt make sence. In tournaments those weapons arent retricted.


@brett friggin favre Didnt read ur post. U are in my "ignore list".

[brett friggin favre]

@brett friggin favre Didnt read ur post. U are in my "ignore list".

cool, and thanks for posting your hours, now i have your steamid and your aliases. i'll keep an eye out for you. you're on my shit list. good day

[HypeRNT]

first of all, ENOUGH

Only i can raise an argument on this freaking forum so fuck of and let me do my job.

VAGA IS OP WTF MAN, MUST CHANGE NOW
HUMAN IS OP!
ARCHMAGE IS OP! BECAUSE YOU GET A FREE GUN ONCE IN 25 rounds!

ok, now flame away but be warned, im drunk and may say something that doesn't make sense.

[LogaN]

first of all, ENOUGH

Only i can raise an argument on this freaking forum so fuck of and let me do my job.

VAGA IS OP WTF MAN, MUST CHANGE NOW
HUMAN IS OP!
ARCHMAGE IS OP! BECAUSE YOU GET A FREE GUN ONCE IN 25 rounds!

ok, now flame away but be warned, im drunk and may say something that doesn't make sense.

Dude, dont drink!
Smoke and fly! _\|/_

[Erdenay]

Wich points? u r the ones failing at explaining why awp/auto are retricted and why do u say that both vagas arent op when they are retricted to one.
I already explained some of my points and some of my sugestions to acolyte_to_jippity wich was the only one that was nice and respectful.

I'm happy that you actually read my post! Oh. Wait.

oh i saw ur "points" i didnt read it before because i took a look at this and didnt read more:

Either I misunderstand your english due to bad grammar... Or you're not all that bright. Re-read what you've just wrote here.

I have 152hours of game play in this server in just a few months if that isnt enough im sorry cs isnt my life.

It's sad that 152 hours don't really teach you anything then. It would be enough for most people, but looking at your comments, seems like you haven't learn while playing those hours.

U shouldnt restrict to balance u should nerf/buff to balance.

Restricting to balance is absolutely fine for these reasons:
1) It's nearly impossible to have absolute balance just by nerfing/buffing all races and that would take much more effort than required.
2) Some races, such as vagabonds, work better when they're restricted - a server full of stuck vagabonds or a server full of molecules would not be fun for anyone.
3) Most of the restricted races are higher level races in a way to reward and give a sense of accomplishment.

Again if they r easy to counter why r they retricted doesnt make sense.

Read the posts above this. Vaga wars can already be quite annoying and there's no reason to extend that. Furthermore, playing a restricted race (we can take one of the vagas for example, because they seem to be your biggest problem) again shows that you've earned it through effort and blood and it reflects it.

LOL?!?! Since when Scout takes more skill? U can hit with a scout with no scope from miles away u can jump/run with it and hit someone easily, u cant do that with an awp.
Awp and auto are part of the game they shouldnt be retritcted...

Umm... Yes you can? It's a 1 shot (for the most part) kill with AWP (especially with extra damage) whereas with a scout you need to be much more precise (headshot) or risk being hit and dying. You can no scope with awp just as well as with scout. If you have a problem with not seeing these guns... Well, go play in our pub server or somewhere else. AWP on a WCS is over-powered and it makes it much more balanced when you don't have one.

So u want it to be a strategic game but u retrict awp and auto wich make part of the game and take part of the strategy... doesnt make sence. In tournaments those weapons arent retricted.

Because tournaments are not playing in WarCraft mod. AWP takes away some of the skill from the game, which is why it is not in our WCS server. There's not that much strategy in 1 hitting a person with AWP...

@brett friggin favre Didnt read ur post. U are in my "ignore list".

Trust me, this is not leaving a good impression and I'd suggest changing your manner of approach and discussion as this will lead you nowhere.