Balancing weapons.

[LogaN]

Hey it's me again!

THIS IS JUST A SUGGETION, I'M NOT TRYING TO BOSS YOU!

Sorry about caps but this way i'm sure most of you will read it. :P

I did a search and found nothing about this.

So my suggetion is to balance the weapons.
Some of you may ask "wtf balancing the weapons?"
Yes.

Weapons aren't balanced if they were you wouldn't see people saying that their vaga crit never works or people saying that with raps it's better to left click than right click.

I'll show you an example:

If you shoot with a scout or right click with a knife during 10 seconds it should proc the same skill the same amount of times as you were shooting with a para, p90 or tmp.

If you balance the weapons it will make races like jack with an ak not as OP as most of you say and will make sence using the scout with him because the skills will proc more.

Some points that this can bring to the server.

-It will reward people with good aim and not the ones that just spray and prey.
-I will make races like raps better which i have seen people saying that's weak.
-You will be able to use weapons like scout, shotguns, etc more often.
-Magician in human form will be better because he only has a shotgun(As primary) and his first skill almost never procs.
-And in my opinion it will increase the competitivity.

I have seen this done before but don't know if it's hard or not to do.

Now your thoughts, don't just delete it because you don't like it. :P

[Wolfenstinger]

So.... more weapon restrictions?? Is that what I'm reading??

Sorry, still hopelessly lost as I try to understand this. Or put it in a scenario for me, I find myself able to learn with scenarios (example Player A = Human, Player B = Raiden.)

[LogaN]

So.... more weapon restrictions?? Is that what I'm reading??

No...

Sorry, still hopelessly lost as I try to understand this. Or put it in a scenario for me, I find myself able to learn with scenarios (example Player A = Human, Player B = Raiden.)

I gave you one in my example...

Player A shoots for 10 seconds with scout or right clicks with his knife.

Player B shoots with a para or with p90 also for 10 seconds.

Both are using the same race so the % proc change from their skills is the same.
In the end of the 10 seconds the skills should have proced the same times even tought their weapons fire rate are diferent.

This will make races like jack less "op" with ak but better with scout. The way it is now high fire rate > low fire rate.
With this change it will make the weapons more equal.

I hope you understand this time. :P

[Wolfenstinger]

Sorry, a bit brain dead here. But Lets see if I get this then -

Race of Choice - Raiden.
Player A has a Pump Shotty
Player B has a TMP

If they both shoot at each other within the 10 seconds the same amount, you're saying that they both should have procd their lightning damage on each other the same amount of times, correct?

[LogaN]

Sorry, a bit brain dead here. But Lets see if I get this then -

Race of Choice - Raiden.
Player A has a Pump Shotty
Player B has a TMP

If they both shoot at each other within the 10 seconds the same amount, you're saying that they both should have procd their lightning damage on each other the same amount of times, correct?

Yes!

The way it works now even tought tmp does alot less dmg it would be better because it procs alot more.

[Wolfenstinger]

But... wouldn't this also mean that your theory is invalid if your not including the chance at headshots, accuracy of the gunman, and pure bullshit luck some people have?/

[brett friggin favre]

ok i read this, and i've come to the unavoidable conclusion that i shit better ideas than you bring up.

[LogaN]

But... wouldn't this also mean that your theory is invalid if your not including the chance at headshots, accuracy of the gunman, and pure bullshit luck some people have?/

It will reward players with more aim and know how to control the weapons recoil. Not the ones that just spray and get a proc in the last bullet...

[What]

More importantly that would imply that the tmp is now shooting at the same rate as a pump shotgun. The percentage chance of a proc is per shot, and usually races that can easily oneshot kill someone, like a vagabond, have weapons restrictions. True a raiden or nebula can one shot if their ability procs, but in order for it to be a one shot it has to be a high powered weapon, like a pump, or a headshot already. Trying to "balance" them is not only not worth anyones time, but impractical and frankly, stupid.

[Wolfenstinger]

Don't forget, the shotgun is shooting a shell which is a spray of bullets in a direction, rather than a single bullet.