Ban the use of pump Shotguns in vents and crawlspaces?

[Vladninja]

no don't ban that...that's just stupid.

For real get some FUCKING SKILLS... and stop banning everything that gives this game any challenge. LoL back when I playd I was warned by an admin for going into a tube alone with a pump shotty. This is exactly why I dont play ZM anymore.

How about this...
Ban all weapons... and cading in any matter... just run around in circles till everyone gets tagged.

Seriously are you the same poeple that dont want letter grades in schools or scores on sports games cause then people might feel bad? I heard the rumors but I didnt think you people actually fucking exsisted I thought it was just a joke.

[walterbrunswick]

@ Vladninja

What is it with you? I thought you were an alright guy. Maybe it's just that you don't play ZM enough?

I've played with Kavinsky a lot more recently than with you, and I absolutely agree with him that shotguns in *vents* (that is, spaces with a few feet of crawlspace, not necessarily a short 1-man tube spot) is cheap.

Perhaps you should spend more time in ZM to be able to give opinions that actually reflect practical gameplay?

As I recall, shotguns and automatic weapons were not allowed in GS-ZM vents (such as the vent space on snoopie), and for good reason.

[Vladninja]

@ Vladninja

What is it with you? I thought you were an alright guy. Maybe it's just that you don't play ZM enough?

I've played with Kavinsky a lot more recently than with you, and I absolutely agree with him that shotguns in *vents* (that is, spaces with a few feet of crawlspace, not necessarily a short 1-man tube spot) is cheap.

Perhaps you should spend more time in ZM to be able to give opinions that actually reflect practical gameplay?

As I recall, shotguns and automatic weapons were not allowed in GS-ZM vents (such as the vent space on snoopie), and for good reason.

LoL... sorry walter but your wrong about GS-ZM... no weapon were banned anywhere... we didnt take those weapons into vents cause we enjoyed the challenge. We also didnt ban any cadaing spaces. I even got to use the Magnum sniper... lol.

I think my time in the IBIS ZM server speaks for itself (even if I havent playd in a while I have more time under my belt than 70% of the kids you play with every night) and its all the banning of weapons and spots... and general harrassment from noob admins that made me move on. Maybe one day if everyone grows up and things get more like the were in the old days I might comeback and play some ZM but for now I will stick to GG, Pub, and Wcs. I got nothing personal with Kavinsky but hes posted 4 polls already about changing ZM.

Good luck with all that...

[walterbrunswick]

I got nothing personal with Kavinsky but hes posted 4 polls already about changing ZM.

Good luck with all that...

Given, he does bitch a LOT, he does have some good points.

In any case, nothing is going to be done about this, so it's a moot point.

Just passing time...

[yours' truely]

How about this...
Ban all weapons... and cading in any matter... just run around in circles till everyone gets tagged.

wait, we're making a duck duck Goose server? I'm so fucking down for that, when can we expect it?

[TheLittlestHobo]

I would vote against this one because shotguns are extremely easy to counter if zombies are smart and coordinated enough to do a ZOMBIE TRAIN. Once you get a fast inside the tube/crawlspace with another right behind it, it's a done deal. The pump is not fast enough for a second shot at the fast.

Again, I voted "indifferent" as a way of saying "Allow shotguns in tubes/vents"

[Kavinsky]

it just seems ridiculous that if you get within 2 feet of a cade with a pump shotgun that you lose a shitload of health from it AND get knocked back 50 feet and it gets even worse if your trying to get someone in a crawlspace.

I Mean theres a reason that after seeing the cade with a pump shotgun and getting hit once that the people playing the zombies just start to go screw about with the physics engine instead of going after the remaining humans.

I don't know maybe the regen of health needs to be increased on zombies to deal with the damage most of the weapons do, especially when dealing with a pump shotgun camper, even if you ztrain him you typically lose atleast one of the trainers if not the whole train if your health is low enough.

and a ztrain with noobs is just a clusterfuck of people standing on each others heads while they lose massive amounts of health from the shotgunner.

although I do agree that enforcing this roule would be a pain in the ass, but it seems like for the last minute and a half of any cading map if you've heald out most people just wont even bother going after you anymore.

[Christmas]

it just seems ridiculous that if you get within 2 feet of a cade with a pump shotgun that you lose a shitload of health from it AND get knocked back 50 feet and it gets even worse if your trying to get someone in a crawlspace.

I Mean theres a reason that after seeing the cade with a pump shotgun and getting hit once that the people playing the zombies just start to go screw about with the physics engine instead of going after the remaining humans.

I don't know maybe the regen of health needs to be increased on zombies to deal with the damage most of the weapons do, especially when dealing with a pump shotgun camper, even if you ztrain him you typically lose atleast one of the trainers if not the whole train if your health is low enough.

and a ztrain with noobs is just a clusterfuck of people standing on each others heads while they lose massive amounts of health from the shotgunner.

although I do agree that enforcing this roule would be a pain in the ass, but it seems like for the last minute and a half of any cading map if you've heald out most people just wont even bother going after you anymore.

Not everything is supposed to be easy. I also find this confusing since I see you tube A LOT with a shotgun or para.

It is fine as long as people know what they are doing.

[mastercheff]

stop rank whoring kavinsky sheesh

[Mallissin]

I think Kavinsky has gone a little too Pro-Zombie.

Someone should check his pulse!