Connecticut Elementary Violence

[Nemesis]

Lets agree to disagree and still none of it made the media... whether the principal took him down or not I never heard of the story until months later...
because here in america it doesn't make good news to promote that guns can stop crime...
I manage a pizza place and have been held up at gun point. Until you have had a gun to your face you have no idea what it means to feel helpless.
My only regret is that there wasn't a gun under the counter or on myself to stop the asshole...
I asked him are you serious at which point he pulled the chamber back... if I had known there wasn't a round already in the chamber... I would have beat the fuck out of this guy.

You have that happen to you and then come tell me you don't want to live in a country where gun control is legal...

Do you know why they took the panic buttons out of banks? Because the guy with the gun looks for actions like that and will shoot you. Now, lets assume that the guy robbing the pizza place isn't a total dumb-ass (which he probably was...or black, or something). you think you could reach under the counter and get your weapon out, load it, and shoot before he can pull the trigger? I don't think so. The guy's gonna be jumpy he'll probably shoot you if you sneeze.

I've never been held at gun point because people in my country don't have guns. In my city there has been one gun homicide in the last couple dozen years, and it was done by an American.
Or it could also be because I have one of these at work... http://soldiersystems.net/2011/10/23...ts-c8-carbine/

[HK5150]

Do you know why they took the panic buttons out of banks? Because the guy with the gun looks for actions like that and will shoot you. Now, lets assume that the guy robbing the pizza place isn't a total dumb-ass (which he probably was...or black, or something). you think you could reach under the counter and get your weapon out, load it, and shoot before he can pull the trigger? I don't think so. The guy's gonna be jumpy he'll probably shoot you if you sneeze.

I've never been held at gun point because people in my country don't have guns. In my city there has been one gun homicide in the last couple dozen years, and it was done by an American.
Or it could also be because I have one of these at work... http://soldiersystems.net/2011/10/23...ts-c8-carbine/

I thought you said you are Canadian? During a 2012 review Canada was 22 guns per hundred people. And you just repealed your long-gun registry in October. I think your population density, gun culture, and overall laid back culture changes things drastically...

[maynard]

people in my country don't have guns.

yes they do

[-=Toy=-=Québec=-FR]

yes they do

Texas, Canada! Thanks to Stephen Harper ... D:

Canada has had some form of gun control since the 1800s, but Liberal government legislation in 1995 called for the registration of all firearms, including shotguns and rifles, not just restricted firearms such as assault rifles and automatic weapons. The skyrocketing costs of the gun control registry and the election of a minority Conservative government in 2006 keep this issue high profile in Canada.

The Canadian Conservative government brings in another bill to end the long-gun registry

[Assassin]

Haha...oh Nem. You won't win this.

[StarsMine]

actually, Nem is quite the debator, also, its not about winning a debate, its about getting others to criticly think about a new face of an issue and take the good ideas from it.

[HK5150]

actually, Nem is quite the debator, also, its not about winning a debate, its about getting others to criticly think about a new face of an issue and take the good ideas from it.

I agree that the process of debating is in good order. When you start refering to people as idiots, Nazis, and rednecks, you just lose credibility. Also, his facts are way off. Again, this has sparked a debate on gun control instead of personal choice and responsibility. I often respond to these types of statements w/ the following:

1. A bullet has not killed anyone in the history of the human race.

2. A twinkie has never made anyone fat.

3. Alcohol has never caused a DUI.

At some point we need to focus on guiding ourselves and those we are responsible for to make good decisions that will help elevate our communities. There is so much specualtion going on w/ this atrocity right now and it is hard to even pinpoint the motive due to the murder of his mother. I repeat, we should honor the victims by focusing on good works in our communities. Surely there is something that you've seen that has bothered you a bit that you could help with. I believe that since these individuals are gone we can support that loss by making an active effort in helping those around us. Let's make sure that we support our food banks, home building/repair volunteer programs, and in general, just be helpful. We can celebrate the potential for their success by taking just a small moment and doing something selfless...

[Assassin]

Yeah debates are all fine and dandy...but when you produce a logical fallicy by stating someone else is something...you've already lost said debate and had nothing logical to come back with.