I feel horrible for the parents of the children lost in this. Can you imagine how terrible this is for them? They do their best to send their kids to a good school, only to lose them in the most horrible way. According to the news I've heard, some of these kids had up to 11 gunshots wounds! And to top it off, so many people are spending all their time arguing about gun laws and almost ignoring the travasty of what occured. How many of you in this discussion know even one of the kids' names?
Save the arguments for another day, right now we need to be discussing how to help those parents, and the families of the killed adults, in any way we can and how we can best repect the lost children.
Trying to come up with a solution so something like this never happens again is ignoring the travesty? What are you, a woman?
Sorry, our minimum for caring about shot children starts at 13 GSWs, so close.
The best way to help the families and respect the dead is to never allow this to happen again. Unless you know some Necromancy.
No.
@ HotFuzz
I love how reliable your sources are as far as scientific evidence is concerned
Also, read this again.... And think.
This. However, we'd be fighting the human nature... Which is not an easy fight to win.
"They asked me how well I understood theoretical physics. I told them I had a theoretical degree in physics. They said welcome aboard."Our subject isn't cool, but he thinks it anyway - he may not have a clue, and he may not have style, but everything he lacks, well, he makes up in denial!Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back.
59 Million people murdered after gun's are restricted in just the 20th century. These are examples of why our founding fathers implemented the 2nd amendment and how pathetic it is of anyone to take it for granted. Armed public are citizens, unarmed public are subjects.
1915-1917 Ottoman Turkey 1-1.5 million murdered 1886-1911 years guns restricted.
1929-1953 Soviet Union 20 million murdered 1929 year guns restricted.
1933-1945 Nazi Germany 13 million murdered 1928-1938 years guns restricted.
1949-1976 China 20 million murdered 1935 year guns restricted.
1960-1981 Guatemala 100,000 murdered 1871-1964 years guns restricted.
1971-1979 Uganda 300,000 murdered 1955-1970 years guns restricted.
1975-1979 Cambodia 1 million murdered 1956 year guns restricted.
"We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." Ronald Reagan
Last edited by Spasm; 12-21-2012 at 01:47 PM.
Seconded Spasm for President. ^
I dont know of anyone who thinks gun control laws will stop all gun related crime. Also crime per capita is a much better metric then the numbers you have given. 20 Million in china is little compared to the 1 million in cambodia or turkey.
What people are trying is to lessen the amount of the crimes, and if you look at the crime drop in 94 era, when the assault ban had occurred, people would associate the two, when in reality it was many factors. Its hard to judge how much of it was a the ban.
And to the quote, that exists for individual cases yes, however, Nature just as strong as nature, what society brings to the table has SOME influence on the minds of the criminally insane.
Personally I think one of the best ways to prevent more of these is to stop creating an anti-hero out of these people. Stop making the infamous, stop focusing on the amount killed and comparing it to others as if it was a Highscore. The worst thing about this is crimes jump a bit after such tragedies from copy cats trying to get some limelight. Im not saying ignore what happened. What I am saying is focus on the rest of the people, they make enough sensationalist news.
This is a multi faceted issue though with no single answer when its a culmination of other issues. Media sensationalism creating anti-heros, the fact that gun violence in america is higher then ANY other first world developed country, though I will admit that probably has alot to do with us having more guns per capita then any other nation in the world, developed or not. Our society being unable to properly recognize and treat mentally ill people. Will fixing these issues stop all violence? hell no but I think there is a way to lower the crime rate without loosing our freedom as citizens. Reasonable gun control laws like no automatic weapons and no extended clips. FCC making some standerd that a news station can only mention a killers name 4 times in a day (idk, someone who has done more research can write the bill) and mental illness awarness in some form.