WCS themed Mafia Game

[What]

If everyone wants to go full retard there is nothing I can do to stop you, but again just fucking think for one second. With the amount of roles out there you are all assuming that the mafia doesn't have roles that can work us into deep shit. No lynch is not a good option, its illogical and can only result in a weakening of the town.

And Nemesis was the one doing the baiting. He tried to get us to go for him at the start by supporting a stupid idea. When Brett and others were immediately hesitant and recognized his stupidity he had to change his tactic. Now he is hoping to get me killed, as I will likely be the first murdered by the mafia, and then when it turns out that I am town he will try and play it off that I was being stupid and it was my own fault. Its very clear what he is pulling and all I ask at this point is that when I do die you will not buy his shitty shitty excuses. He has done nothing but obstinately supported the failed belief that not only is no lynch a good idea, but that a lynch vote is totally random. It isn't and people like Mikey, Brett, Cyber and myself are reasoning out who the likely suspects are. Anyone rushing to get a vote in ASAP or still supporting no lynch is someone who does not have the town's interest in mind.

If the town has fun/good abilities, so does the mafia which may easily result in more town deaths and confusion if we vote no lynch going into day 2. Bottom line is this, on Day 2 we will have just as much to go off as day 1 as far as solid evidence is concerned. Even if there is a cop in play, he has to not be killed the first night, he must investigate someone who is mafia, he must then reveal himself to us, and then we have to believe him. Just because a cop can investigate someone does not mean he will immediately find a mafia member, he may well just discover someone is actually a townie and then we are in the same damn spot we are now, just down at least 1 if not more members, as well as being hindered by whatever abilities the mafia can use on us.

JUST FUCKING THINK IT THROUGH

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

If everyone wants to go full retard there is nothing I can do to stop you, but again just fucking think for one second. With the amount of roles out there you are all assuming that the mafia doesn't have roles that can work us into deep shit. No lynch is not a good option, its illogical and can only result in a weakening of the town.

And Nemesis was the one doing the baiting. He tried to get us to go for him at the start by supporting a stupid idea. When Brett and others were immediately hesitant and recognized his stupidity he had to change his tactic. Now he is hoping to get me killed, as I will likely be the first murdered by the mafia, and then when it turns out that I am town he will try and play it off that I was being stupid and it was my own fault. Its very clear what he is pulling and all I ask at this point is that when I do die you will not buy his shitty shitty excuses. He has done nothing but obstinately supported the failed belief that not only is no lynch a good idea, but that a lynch vote is totally random. It isn't and people like Mikey, Brett, Cyber and myself are reasoning out who the likely suspects are. Anyone rushing to get a vote in ASAP or still supporting no lynch is someone who does not have the town's interest in mind.

If the town has fun/good abilities, so does the mafia which may easily result in more town deaths and confusion if we vote no lynch going into day 2. Bottom line is this, on Day 2 we will have just as much to go off as day 1 as far as solid evidence is concerned. Even if there is a cop in play, he has to not be killed the first night, he must investigate someone who is mafia, he must then reveal himself to us, and then we have to believe him. Just because a cop can investigate someone does not mean he will immediately find a mafia member, he may well just discover someone is actually a townie and then we are in the same damn spot we are now, just down at least 1 if not more members, as well as being hindered by whatever abilities the mafia can use on us.

JUST FUCKING THINK IT THROUGH

you have to understand that we will still get information if we no lynch as someone is sure to die the first night. We also have to consider that we are WCS races with unique abilities that may play important roles. If you are for the town then you will understand that if we no lynch the first night, we are in better shape day 2 then we would be if we lynched and let the mafia kill. if we lynch the first day, we could potentially be out 3 townies by day 2. I do not like those odds and will bet on gathering information with a no lynch and 1st night events.

Vote: No lynch

[What]

you have to understand that we will still get information if we no lynch as someone is sure to die the first night. We also have to consider that we are WCS races with unique abilities that may play important roles. If you are for the town then you will understand that if we no lynch the first night, we are in better shape day 2 then we would be if we lynched and let the mafia kill. if we lynch the first day, we could potentially be out 3 townies by day 2. I do not like those odds and will bet on gathering information with a no lynch and 1st night events.

Vote: No lynch

No information of value will be learned by having the mafia kill someone. They will have abilities as well, and if someone completely out of left field is killed by the mafia then where are we? There is no advantage from voting no lynch. Voteing to lynch someone does carry a risk, but based on what I have seen the risk is minimal, and the reward is far too valuable to pass up. You are all being led like lambs to the slaughter by Nemesis's flawed reasoning. If too many of you vote for no lynch now, the mafia can just sweep in and pump it up to the necessary amount of votes and we will lose.

[brett friggin favre]

there's at least 1 blood mage type class in play. it is on the town's side. i say this with 90% certainty.

if we vote to lynch, that's one person dead. the mafia kills one. killers kill at least one. that's 3 total, if we lynch, and the blood mage can rez one, still 2 dead

we may get lucky with the lynch but we have no hard info. but if we vote no lynch, that's 2 dead, blood mage can rez one, just 1 dead. given the odds of lynching a townie, 1 dead is better than 2 dead in my book. also the doctor can protect one, get lucky with that and we're missing nobody on day 2.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

No information of value will be learned by having the mafia kill someone. They will have abilities as well, and if someone completely out of left field is killed by the mafia then where are we? There is no advantage from voting no lynch. Voteing to lynch someone does carry a risk, but based on what I have seen the risk is minimal, and the reward is far too valuable to pass up. You are all being led like lambs to the slaughter by Nemesis's flawed reasoning. If too many of you vote for no lynch now, the mafia can just sweep in and pump it up to the necessary amount of votes and we will lose.

the risks are less by no lynching, as far as the lamb comment went, you are wrong. i thought about both routes and concluded this my own. You are advocating doing the best thing for the town by being the only one to vote lynch yet you are aruging to the point were even your self said "i will most likely be killed" if you are on the town side, how is putting a big red target on yourself going to help us?

Id also like to make note that though scribble has not replied since his "Confirmed" post, he has been on the forums. as a matter of fact, his last login was 5:40 pm yesterday. I think its safe to assume he is monitoring this days development. Scribbles should be someone we watch as he is most likely going to vote the 8th vote.

[What]

there's at least 1 blood mage type class in play. it is on the town's side. i say this with 90% certainty.

if we vote to lynch, that's one person dead. the mafia kills one. killers kill at least one. that's 3 total, if we lynch, and the blood mage can rez one, still 2 dead

we may get lucky with the lynch but we have no hard info. but if we vote no lynch, that's 2 dead, blood mage can rez one, just 1 dead. given the odds of lynching a townie, 1 dead is better than 2 dead in my book. also the doctor can protect one, get lucky with that and we're missing nobody on day 2.

What hard info do you think we are sure to gain on day 2? There is no guarantee that we will know anything more for certain than we know now, besides from being down more people. It is clear to me at least, that there are at least 2 if not 3 people we can vote for with a level of certainty that we are making the right choice. No lynch is stupid, is, has been, and always will be.

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the risks are less by no lynching, as far as the lamb comment went, you are wrong. i thought about both routes and concluded this my own. You are advocating doing the best thing for the town by being the only one to vote lynch yet you are aruging to the point were even your self said "i will most likely be killed" if you are on the town side, how is putting a big red target on yourself going to help us?
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It behooves the mafia to take out the guy making waves, and be calling all of Nem's bullshit is going to be an issue for them, if not now, it will be eventually.

[Erdenay]

I will prod/look for replacements upon request.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

it is to my understanding that the mafia may message eachother, so it lead me to think about our forums "recent viewers" addon on each profile.

Here is a roster broken down to show all 14 players recent profile view history. This is in attempts to connect the dots between who is messaging eachother. I have taken into account the randomness of some profile views, but think my findings prove to be odd. I will tally below the name on the top line.

Who has recently visited there profile
Cyber---What---Scrib---Brett---Carm---Owns---Stan---Locust---Mikey---Rape---Nem---Mass---Chikun---wolf
Player name
Cyber X X X X

What X X X X

Scribb X X X

Brett X X X

Carm X X X X X

Owns X X X

Stan X X

Locust X X X

Mikey X X X X X

Rape X X X

Nem X X X

Mass X X X X

Chikun X X X X

Wolf X X X X X X

[Locust]

What hard info do you think we are sure to gain on day 2? There is no guarantee that we will know anything more for certain than we know now, besides from being down more people. It is clear to me at least, that there are at least 2 if not 3 people we can vote for with a level of certainty that we are making the right choice. No lynch is stupid, is, has been, and always will be.

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It behooves the mafia to take out the guy making waves, and be calling all of Nem's bullshit is going to be an issue for them, if not now, it will be eventually.

If we vote to lynch somebody there's a good chance we're lynching a friendly seeing how there are more friendlies than hostiles. And if we lynch a friendly, we lose another at the first night and now we're down 2 friendlies. We don't lynch anyone and we lose 1 friendly on the first night and we just plain have a better ratio than lynching someone. IMO it's not worth risking being down 2 people on the first day.

[Erdenay]

it is to my understanding that the mafia may message eachother, so it lead me to think about our forums "recent viewers" addon on each profile.

Just to note something - actually mafia may only discuss and coordinate their actions during night time - they are not allowed to communicate with each other during the day UNLESS on some very rare occasions.