Prison Break Wars (Mafia)

[Wolfenstinger]

You forgot Wolf saying useless shit and being unimportant and probably getting lynched on the first day.

Well shit, somebody caught onto me real quick. Then again, I've never been really important to begin with.

Anywho... Since ya'll want info here's info : John Coffey.

[Nemesis]

^^^ I'm really starting to reconsider my vote, due to someone being a nuisance.

Get cancer nigger

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And with that I'm going to bed.

[Old Bastard]

Get cancer nigger

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And with that I'm going to bed.

You know one of these days the shit you wish on people will eventually catch up to you.

[Nemesis]

You know one of these days the shit you wish on people will eventually catch up to you.

Sure thing Anne Sullivan.

[kionay]

Some saying that voting no lynch quick in the first day is moving too quickly, that we need more information. While this is true I would assume that people wouldn't start spilling information from the get go, and that and disable amount of worthwhile information would need to be gathered from the results of the first day/night

But if people are so eager to share then so be it I suppose

But atm I don't see enough sharing to make a decision, so instead of risking lynching the innocent without enough info, and possibly having two dead townies after the first cycle, I'd rather play it safe and keep my vote

[What]

What I think the information decision boils down to, is that if the vote to no lynch goes too quickly, then no one has posted much of anything and there is no information to either go on in the future or refer back to.
That being said, is Brett saying some out of character things, yes. Is Nem surely trying to get more information out of him and others, yes. As it is now, there are like 6 people talking out of 14. Most of the newbies have not said anything, which may be a symptom of them being incompetent, or them having signed up for something they dont understand.

The way I think a first day lynch generates info, is kind of from what we have just seen. It will not be easy to get enough votes for somebody, so there will have to be some convincing and arguing going on. While this may not pay dividends for Day 1, it does provide a good body of information for later.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

What I think the information decision boils down to, is that if the vote to no lynch goes too quickly, then no one has posted much of anything and there is no information to either go on in the future or refer back to.
That being said, is Brett saying some out of character things, yes. Is Nem surely trying to get more information out of him and others, yes. As it is now, there are like 6 people talking out of 14. Most of the newbies have not said anything, which may be a symptom of them being incompetent, or them having signed up for something they dont understand.

The way I think a first day lynch generates info, is kind of from what we have just seen. It will not be easy to get enough votes for somebody, so there will have to be some convincing and arguing going on. While this may not pay dividends for Day 1, it does provide a good body of information for later.

First, im on my phone, forgive typos. Second, I understand your reasoning for wanting to lynch but try and reflect on past games. It hardly ever works. Remember thst any accusation made at this point is 100 percent speculation and should not be used against somebody later in game becsuse they made a false accusation with any evidence. The only other thing we gain from lynching now, aside from funny bickering, is a claim or two. Which will end up hurting us, especially if the person we pressured was an essential role.

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With out any evidence*

The end of the day I think its safe to say that we are looking for people to talk so that we may have the afforded chance to use what they say day one as leverage later in the game.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

I still don't see how lynching day 1 helps us at all.

the odds are against us. And if we lynch an inno, then the mafia kills someone the next night (unless doctor is HELLA FUCKING lucky). We're down 2 innos and no closer to finding anything.

[What]

The reason I am always in support of a day 1 lynch is as follows:

You have a shot, a slim one, but still a shot of hitting scum on day 1, which is a huge boost. If you weight the cost benefit of hitting a VT vs scum, I think it is worth the risk.

Second, people will have to argue and discuss who to kill, with essentially no information, this provides a nice bit of information that can be used later in the game to support assertions or claims that develop.

Thirdly, and Brett kind of assumed I would go this way, if someone doesn't say a damn thing at all, either isn't playing, isn't aware of whats going on, or whatever, they are not bringing anything to the table anyways. They will not be a target for scum at night since, if they aren't talking who gives a shit about them. So they are essentially narrowing down the possible targets for the mafia by not saying anything, provided they are not mafia themselves. By eliminating inactives, who are likely to be looked at suspiciously as Nem has already made clear, the cop/investigator may well waste time investigating them just to see whats up.

Those are the benefits I see with doing a Day 1 lynch. No guarantees I know, but neither is there a guarantee that Night 1 brings anything to the table either. I know this may not convince some people, but thats my 2 cents. I feel in the long term, it has the potential to be more beneficial than a non-lynch.

[Blackmage]

Day 1 Lynch gives us a look at player actions and claims. It's not about killing someone, it's about watching what people do, and what they say about it.

I will also ask what plan anyone who wants to NL has if they hit our cop.

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