Reality...

[Christmas]

The BBC show was called 9/11 The Conspiracy Files. BBC has no ties to American politics so everything they divulge will be with no bias.

http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/hearings/index.htm

There's other crap, but you can find much redacted papers going to Barnes and Noble

My papers however will not be found on the internet. Professor was a former FBI agent and alot of the shit he gave us was redacted.

Why is that?

[loka]

They include names of people and locations of things they didn't want us to have a knowledge? Umm that would be the reason of redacted information. Doesn't take a genius to figure out what type of information is redacted.

[maynard]

The only flaws are ones you want to find.

Out of curiosity why is the evidence presented not enough? There is witness testimony, plane debris, damage to the pentagon appropriate to the plane that hit it, damage to the lightposts appropriate to the plane that hit it, etc.

You seem to cling on a few pieces of witness testimony that you say magically disappeared, and the videos that you say the government is withholding from you. These are incredibly petty things to make such a big deal over.

fine ill tell why, but only cause your asking.

-the entire building coming down the way it did I call bull shit

-all planes go fast, and ive seen many plane crashes, theres generally still big ass chunks of the plane, and a shit ton of debree. this did not match up with the pentagon at all. it was all small ass twisted metal, also on the left and right side of the hole, there's 0 impact dmg from the wings. also there's 2 holes, not sure what the other hole was even from... but lets not get into that, there's been enough debate over the first hole being fake, why get into another

-theres that audio file of the guy in the plane who called his mom or something while was on the plane that ppl often claim is evidence... now if you've ever taken a 757 before or any big plane and have been high up in the sky, you know damn well cell phones don't work worth 2 shits... even if you can manage 2 get a weak signal that stays consitant, you sound like total shit 2 the person your calling, you chop in and out... my other problem is that the dude doesn't even sound scared at all... it's just bs I say

-the 1 plane that hit the field, I saw the live footage of that and there was no plane, just a bit of twisted metal again.

- just prior 2 the building falling you see small explosions going through it and blowing out windows and dust... then the building comes down.

the war for oil has been going on for like 200 years now out there. this was no diff. also america makes a point of getting involved in any war they can every 10-20 years cause it boosts the shit out of there economy. I don't know why ppl think it's far gone for 1 of the most powerful governments on the planet 2 take out 2k ppl, so they can go over seas, get there foot in the door, and have access 2 billions of dollars worth of oil.

but like I said before, I had beefs with the fed government prior 2 this.. Ive never liked them, but I just find the entire 9/11 thing fisy, and I think it was a perfect plan that was made by gov 2 further value and make America progress.

I could think of more reasons but ive been sitting here smoking the vaporizer and it's becoming a bit difficult.

[Curdy]

maynard i was able to use my mobile phone on a plane before at lower altitudes so its not impossible, since these attacks where commited at low alttitude cell or mobile usage is possible.

edit

should be noted the first country to be invaded by the west on the war on terror was Afghanistan not Iraq. Afghanistan has no oil...

[maynard]

maynard i was able to use my mobile phone on a plane before at lower altitudes so its not impossible, since these attacks where commited at low alttitude cell or mobileusage is possible.

as I said I'm done arguing with you all. if you don't like my views, 2 bad. ill read the site christmas posted, but I don't really feel like arguing with you ppl anymore.

[Curdy]

I would hardly call this a perfect plan maynard America is now in trillion's of dollars of debt as a result of this war.

[Christmas]

fine ill tell why, but only cause your asking.

-the entire building coming down the way it did I call bull shit

You know nothing of the structures of buildings, which you demonstrated quite well with your "fire can't melt steel" bologna. NIST has proven that it was possible due to fire and jet fuel.

-all planes go fast, and ive seen many plane crashes, theres generally still big ass chunks of the plane, and a shit ton of debree. this did not match up with the pentagon at all. it was all small ass twisted metal, also on the left and right side of the hole, there's 0 impact dmg from the wings. also there's 2 holes, not sure what the other hole was even from... but lets not get into that, there's been enough debate over the first hole being fake, why get into another

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagon/index.html

-theres that audio file of the guy in the plane who called his mom or something while was on the plane that ppl often claim is evidence... now if you've ever taken a 757 before or any big plane and have been high up in the sky, you know damn well cell phones don't work worth 2 shits... even if you can manage 2 get a weak signal that stays consitant, you sound like total shit 2 the person your calling, you chop in and out... my other problem is that the dude doesn't even sound scared at all... it's just bs I say

This has been debunked. For starters I believe that was a call made from an airphone. Secondly, it has been shown that calls have been made with cell phones at low altitudes. Third this implies that either the man who made the call and his mother were in on it or the mother was duped into thinking that some random man was her own son. Neither are plausible.

-the 1 plane that hit the field, I saw the live footage of that and there was no plane, just a bit of twisted metal again.

90% of the plane was recovered.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/2...ite/index.html

- just prior 2 the building falling you see small explosions going through it and blowing out windows and dust... then the building comes down.

No you don't. A video I posted already disproves this.

the war for oil has been going on for like 200 years now out there. this was no diff. also america makes a point of getting involved in any war they can every 10-20 years cause it boosts the shit out of there economy.

Look at the United States current debt and tell me that again.

I don't know why ppl think it's far gone for 1 of the most powerful governments on the planet 2 take out 2k ppl, so they can go over seas, get there foot in the door, and have access 2 billions of dollars worth of oil.

No one said it wasn't possible for it to happen. However it is not possible that 9/11 was an inside job based on the evidence provided.

Enjoy your vaporizer.

[Curdy]

I wouldn't call this arguing mearly a discussion between adults.

[maynard]

No one said it wasn't possible for it to happen. However it is not possible that 9/11 was an inside job based on the evidence provided.

Enjoy your vaporizer.

if it is/was an inside job, do you really think government would leave available evidence? ofcourse not... that's why as ive stated I'm not trying 2 change your ppl's minds. I voiced 2 loka I believe that there's skeptic people out there like myself regarding this. then yall decided 2 rain down on me saying the same shit over and over, while unable 2 pick up the overly obvious fact that you guys voicing your opinions against me and for how you think it went means jack shit 2 me lol. I never was looking for a back and forth argument.

I wouldn't call this arguing mearly a discussion between adults.

beyond a pointless 1 then.

[walterbrunswick]

maynard I have to say that your argument is very weak, in light of all the evidence that loka, Christmas and Mastagunz presented.

In any case, the government is Fucked Up Beyond All Reason (FUBAR), and I wouldn't doubt that they had this planned or at least had the knowledge that it was going to happen, and then write it off as an excuse to go to war (for oil).

Still there are puzzling things such as Building 7, or what those other explosions heard around the WTC were. Wouldn't be surprised if they were planted bombs...