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[Kavinsky]

I agree but I had to point out the obivious flaw in gus' statment and either they didnt mention the state laws vs federal thing in high school or I didnt pick up on it when we were covering it.

[loka]

I learned that in college in American law and History class. The constitution will always be the supreme law of the land along with federal laws (of course except in Native American reservations; they have their own Tribe Laws). It was about state rights because the CSA (Confederacy State of America 7 seceded states) versus the United States of America (23 states). The truth is the majority of southerners who owned slaves were the politicians. Southerners were too poor to even own 1 slave. Hence why I mentioned earlier "the government works for big companies and their egos." The civil war was fueled more by a war of politicians than the public beliefs of two different states.

[ZERO]

Yea in APus we learned that it was not over slavery but states rights, although I know that most HS will teach that it is about slavery b/c most of our education system is not about teaching.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Yea in APus we learned that it was not over slavery but states rights, although I know that most HS will teach that it is about slavery b/c most of our education system is not about teaching.

lol, AP us history.

loved that class. Mrs. Masty taught us that the south was screwed because it's products were cotton, tobacco, a little bit of sugar, rice, and indigo.

Sung (kid in class) complained that that's not too bad, and she said something like "yeah, you don't eat cotton sung, and what are you going to do with the rest?" and he replies "what about the indigo?" and she says "indigo? indigo's a dye" he says "i know! and you also have cotton!"


sung was an idiot...

[loka]

Yea in APus we learned that it was not over slavery but states rights, although I know that most HS will teach that it is about slavery b/c most of our education system is not about teaching.

If you read most of the text books that come out, they proclaim the main reason was for slavery, and Lincoln was single-handedly responsible for freeing the slaves. This isn't accurate. The issue isn't mainly that schools don't teach. It's that the education board who orders the text books don't take the time to look at what's in the text books. Text books aren't accurate. They are written by other professors with Ph.D's in their respected subject. With those professors come different ideas and philosophies that they feel is responsible and what isn't. When I was a freshman in high school, I was encouraged to read this book called "Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong." If anything, it clarifies what authors of American History text books like to sugar coat. Going into college, they seem to broaden the sense of the realities of American History, especially if history becomes your major... you basically have to erase everything that was taught to you in high school.

[gas.]

If you read most of the text books that come out, they proclaim the main reason was for slavery, and Lincoln was single-handedly responsible for freeing the slaves. This isn't accurate. The issue isn't mainly that schools don't teach. It's that the education board who orders the text books don't take the time to look at what's in the text books. Text books aren't accurate. They are written by other professors with Ph.D's in their respected subject. With those professors come different ideas and philosophies that they feel is responsible and what isn't. When I was a freshman in high school, I was encouraged to read this book called "Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong." If anything, it clarifies what authors of American History text books like to sugar coat. Going into college, they seem to broaden the sense of the realities of American History, especially if history becomes your major... you basically have to erase everything that was taught to you in high school.

Basically. Lincoln only freed the southern slaves and did so in an attempt to cripple the southern economy with hopes of an uprising.

[gas.]

I agree but I had to point out the obivious flaw in gus' statment.

What flaw was that? I wasn't speaking about slavery at all with that statement, rather the belief that states would be allowed to secede if they wish.