CSS Beta going live next week

[Schnacky]

What if we just destroy mac then there is nothing for them to update it to!?

This has nothing to do with Mac other than them releasing the game there. They are upgrading the engine to Source 2009 which is the TF2/HL2:Ep2/Portal/L4D engine. So even if they didnt release the game for Mac, we would still get the update.


@acolyte_to_jippity - If you dont want them to support their products maybe they should stop updating VAC too.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

This has nothing to do with Mac other than them releasing the game there. They are upgrading the engine to Source 2009 which is the TF2/HL2:Ep2/Portal/L4D engine. So even if they didnt release the game for Mac, we would still get the update.


@acolyte_to_jippity - If you dont want them to support their products maybe they should stop updating VAC too.

lol, i love getting called out like this.

ok. when i said that, i was referring only to CS:S. that's what is being discussed here. now, it can also extend to l4d, tf2, hl2...

you see new guy, each of those games had updates that were released, FUCKING THEM OVER COMPLETELY. so in response to your question, no. actually i'd rather they not do any type of update to VAC. keep definitions up to date, but i don't want them to touch the main code behind it. simply becuse every single thing they update ends up becoming more and more fucked up.

[devour]

lol, i love getting called out like this.

ok. when i said that, i was referring only to CS:S. that's what is being discussed here. now, it can also extend to l4d, tf2, hl2...

you see new guy, each of those games had updates that were released, FUCKING THEM OVER COMPLETELY. so in response to your question, no. actually i'd rather they not do any type of update to VAC. keep definitions up to date, but i don't want them to touch the main code behind it. simply becuse every single thing they update ends up becoming more and more fucked up.

VAC is the anti-cheat. O_O do you know what ur talking about?

[acolyte_to_jippity]

VAC is the anti-cheat. O_O do you know what ur talking about?

yes i do.

it's like anti virus software. the definitions need to be kept up to date, but i still find that the older versions worked far far better than the newer ones. yet, the older versions' definitions are uncompatable with the def. packs for the newer ones and thus i'm stuck w. the shitty versions.

with VAC, ideally the hack definitions would continue to be kept up with, but the actual VAC program/code itself wouldn't be touched.

because as i just pointed out, whatever valve updates/upgrades (tf2, hl2, l4d...) becomes fucked over and broken.

[Schnacky]

yes i do.

it's like anti virus software. the definitions need to be kept up to date, but i still find that the older versions worked far far better than the newer ones. yet, the older versions' definitions are uncompatable with the def. packs for the newer ones and thus i'm stuck w. the shitty versions.

with VAC, ideally the hack definitions would continue to be kept up with, but the actual VAC program/code itself wouldn't be touched.

because as i just pointed out, whatever valve updates/upgrades (tf2, hl2, l4d...) becomes fucked over and broken.

I rather disagree. I love the new weapons that Valve has added and the new game modes in TF2. The new UI sucks, but I like class modifications they have done so far. I just wish pyro was a touch stronger, but like Blizzard with WoW, balancing a game like TF2 takes ages. I dont own L4D2 but L4D wasnt screwed up by the addition of survival mode and that one campaign map.

[mastercheff]

Macs are the problem.

[ZERO]

The issue is that valve is updating the game for no reason other than to support macs. In the process of doing this they are breaking all the mods, requiring them to all be reprogrammed to work, introducing new bugs and glitches and making the game less compatible by not supporting older systems that currently work fine.

So if your not playing on a mac the "update" only makes the game worse. The update is totally pointless for anyone that does not use mac. We can literally blame all of the problems with the game from when the beta goes live on mac users.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Fuck!

[Rezel]

The issue is that valve is updating the game for no reason other than to support macs. In the process of doing this they are breaking all the mods, requiring them to all be reprogrammed to work, introducing new bugs and glitches and making the game less compatible by not supporting older systems that currently work fine.

So if your not playing on a mac the "update" only makes the game worse. The update is totally pointless for anyone that does not use mac. We can literally blame all of the problems with the game from when the beta goes live on mac users.

He's right, they are taking a perfectly good game and fucking it up.... Again...

Valve is a great company on there releases, they may be a bit slow, but they do good. As for every attempt at fixing issues they tend to fuck it up more, as history shows, meaning that this update is probably gonna be no better. Other than also breaking all of the mods for the game, a lot of my friends list is quitting, out of 240 + friends 90% of them are quitting.


That's really sad..

[ZERO]

No worries mac users will replace them...