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Thread: STEAM_0:0:4648965 Fluffy Frufflebottoms walling aimbotting

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    /sigh... Fluffy is a good player... His competition is fun too... =( He does not hack, he only listens - just like I do. I have been called a wall hacker for following someone through a wall; the footsteps are easy to hear and you can easily follow someone.

    I wish he would be un-banned, I have watched those demos and NOTHING strikes me as odd... sorry, just thought I would put it out there.

    Plus his rank is 17 on GG and he only has a 1.71 KD ratio...
    Wahhh, you're a hacker! Wahh!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy Frufflebottoms View Post
    In fact, I seem to spend an entire clip missing two people who should've been easy kills, only to be shot in the back of the head by Dana. Thanks, Dana!
    You're welcome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Baby View Post
    /sigh... Fluffy is a good player... His competition is fun too... =( He does not hack, he only listens - just like I do. I have been called a wall hacker for following someone through a wall; the footsteps are easy to hear and you can easily follow someone.

    I wish he would be un-banned, I have watched those demos and NOTHING strikes me as odd... sorry, just thought I would put it out there.

    Plus his rank is 17 on GG and he only has a 1.71 KD ratio...
    Sounds like your next to be banned, just going by the recent trend of bans on ibis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spasm View Post
    Sounds like your next to be banned, just going by the recent trend of bans on ibis.
    Yeah, it would make more sense seeing as how I am rank 1 in GG and have a 2.01 KD... I don't know, I suppose the ignorance of someone calling hacks because someone is better than them irritates me.

    I understand at least demo-ing and asking someone to view it. Although, no one word of mouth should EVER be an instant ban... (my opinion).
    Wahhh, you're a hacker! Wahh!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spasm View Post
    You can't just fuckin ban before anyone even watches and responds to the demo, your not clan or ZERO either.
    Hobo has as much credit as I do. Therefore not respecting him is like disrespecting me. D=

    He was doing his job and did exactly what I have done, and what I would have done. It is better to be safe than sorry when it comes to hackers.. But as I've said before, wallhacking is a tricky one. Kavinsky provided a demo for us to kindly share our opinions about, meaning he did nothing wrong either.

    Unless it's ZM, it's not that usual that people have 26-0..

    The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeimuzu View Post
    Hobo has as much credit as I do. Therefore not respecting him is like disrespecting me. D=

    He was doing his job and did exactly what I have done, and what I would have done. It is better to be safe than sorry when it comes to hackers.. But as I've said before, wallhacking is a tricky one. Kavinsky provided a demo for us to kindly share our opinions about, meaning he did nothing wrong either.

    Unless it's ZM, it's not that usual that people have 26-0..
    So you will ban on someones word.... Ban me now please. Doing your job is watching a demo and making your own conclusions. I'm sorry if you have never been accussed of hacking. This isn't zombie mod. It isn't safer then sorry, do you want bad players playing on your servers, oh wait, you don't play anything that really takes (true cs) player skill. I am sorry James but your post is not for the benefit of the community, it's for the benefit of admins that ban without a fuckin thought in the world about it. Good day.

    Edit: i just read your last comment, the demo never was never even discussed, he was banned immediatly, and it has now been like 4 days. I would be singing a different tune if like 5 or 6 people agreed with kavnisky and they was like yea hacks no doubt or w/e. Then Yes he did his job, but that isn't how it went down. He was banned b4 anyone could even watch the demo. I have won on 26-1 before, it isn't that difficult. Espcially if you join late. I will disrespect any admin that bans without even viewing the evidence, that is bullshit.
    Last edited by Spasm; 08-22-2010 at 11:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spasm View Post
    I will disrespect any admin that bans without even viewing the evidence, that is bullshit.
    +1

    By the way, wall-hacking is easy to determine. When I was watching that demo, I saw nothing that even remotely caught me off-guard.
    Wahhh, you're a hacker! Wahh!!!

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    As much respect as I have for you Jeimuzu (or do you prefer James? I feel strange calling people by their names if they don't know mine), I cannot disagree more. Spasm is right, banning a player on a single person's word, without seeing a shred of evidence, is simply unacceptable and unprofessional. There is no reason not to view a provided demo before banning someone, and there are many, many reasons to do so. It is simply an insupportable action.

    I do agree that wallhacking is a difficult hack to spot if the player is competent at hiding it, but I disagree strongly with the better safe than sorry stance, as I've voiced elsewhere. I'll give one reason as an example. I'm going to quote you from another thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeimuzu
    It's sad.. I've known players who are better than people WITH wallhacks.. It just makes it that much harder to actually find them.
    Yeah, me too, I call them good players, and this policy effectively tells the outside world "We don't want good players at IBIS, because they might be hackers."

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    Checks and balances people.

    If you were a beautiful sound in the echos all around, I'd be your harmony.

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    Honestly I was surprised hobo did the banning. Checks and balances do need to become more of a thing. Im starting to think instead of doing perma bans it might be best to only have 3 to 5 day bans.......and that should give us enought time to get evidence to look over and decide....... and if we are all still undecided the ban is up and if really found guilty then we perma them.

    I would think of it like getting arrested and having to wait for court appearance. Just there is no bail... hmm or could there?
    Last edited by mag36; 08-24-2010 at 11:04 AM.

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