A $4,000.00 Game

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

So i have some plans for when i return home, these plans consist of building Gaming pc and a server. I have been disconnected from the world for a pretty long time now and am completely lost regarding up to date PC parts and the such.

So i wish to propose a game. For anyone interested, all you have to do is create a wish list. This wish list will consist of everything you would need to build a Gaming PC and a server. This wish list will take into count, accessories. Your personal spending budget for this wish list project is $4000. Anyone who posts a wish list will have my utmost gratitude as you will be helping me make a pretty hefty purchase.

[jwtemp]

Would you prefer to invest more in your server or your gaming rig? What will the server be used for?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Would you prefer to invest more in your server or your gaming rig? What will the server be used for?

the server will start small, i only intend to use it for a dedicated minecraft server for now. More emph on the gameing rig

[CYBER]

*lurks in the background, taking notes for his own gaming rig*

[brett friggin favre]

*lurks in the background, taking notes for his own gaming rig*

*reminds you that you're mexican and will end up making it out of parts scrounged from construction sites*

http://www.clashofthedragons.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=937&d=1315961418

[What]

Dude, You're getting a Dell!

[maynard]

Dude, You're getting a Dell!

lmfao

[SCRIBBLE]

here are my two suggested builds for your current situation

gaming PC: win7 using i2p bridged virtual box to get through plus an upgraded cooling system (fig. 1) to deal with the extreme temperatures. includes cd player so you can listen to your laser disks with your friends. 1 usb port and you had better hope it has wireless.
fig 1:7270

server: built to local standards, power supplied by iranian nuclear reactor (fig. 2) aka an array of batteries. secured by patriot technology, only allowing maybe 3 or 4 nerds to sit and stare in frustration, this server is equipped with the military grade security suite Norton Internet Security Suite 2003, rejecting any security threat/breach to a 131dB loop of madonna's lucky star simultaneously running a high powered degaussing field on your personal computer and exploding a glue pack.
fig 2:7271

[StarsMine]

two seperate rigs?
Need a monitor as well for the wish list? Though I think thats what you ment by accessories. hmmm. I get on this sometime

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

two seperate rigs?
Need a monitor as well for the wish list? Though I think thats what you ment by accessories. hmmm. I get on this sometime

ill only need 1 monitor/tv.

[ZERO]

Server:


CPU
BX80637G1610


m/b
GA-Z77N-WIFI


ram
KHX16C9B1RK2/4X


case
PC-Q25B


Raid card: areca ARC-1223-8I

Total: 795 + HDD cost (you will want to find ones that work well in raid ie not the cheep shit)

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Keep in mind when running reliable raid and if you never want to have problems your going to need server level drives: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236354

[StarsMine]

just say a celeron g1610 next time damn.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Server:


CPU
BX80637G1610


m/b
GA-Z77N-WIFI


ram
KHX16C9B1RK2/4X


case
PC-Q25B


Raid card: areca ARC-1223-8I

Total: 795 + HDD cost (you will want to find ones that work well in raid ie not the cheep shit)

---------- Post added at 01:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:16 AM ----------

Keep in mind when running reliable raid and if you never want to have problems your going to need server level drives: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236354
o boy, raids? iv got some learn-in to do then. Also, wouldn't i want more ram and even a SSD to boost load times and in game performance? I understand that my connection speed plays the biggest role in all of this.

Edit: Here is my current Gaming RIG Wish list. Remember.. iv been out of the loop for awhile now.. the only thing i might change thus far is the size of my power supply and the wireless headset. what are your thoughts?










Wish List:

1 COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811119225
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $199.99


1 GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813128514
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$10.00 Instant $10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card $149.99 $139.99


1 SAPPHIRE 100352-2L Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Item #: N82E16814202006
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy -$30.00 Instant $20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card $319.99 $289.99


1 CORSAIR HX Series HX750 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817139010
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$40.00 Instant $10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card $169.99 $129.99


1 AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8350FRHKBOX
Item #: N82E16819113284
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy $199.99


1 Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Item #: N82E16820148443
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy -$10.00 Instant $209.99 $199.99


1 G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-16GTX
Item #: N82E16820231589
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy $154.99


1 Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136533
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $94.99


1 Logitech G510 Black USB Wired Gaming Keyboard
Item #: N82E16823126100
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$20.00 Instant $119.99 $99.99


1 Logitech G930 USB Connector Circumaural Wireless Gaming Headset
Item #: N82E16826104399
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$43.00 Instant $159.99 $116.99


1 RAZER Black Wired Laser Naga Molten Special Edition Gaming Mouse
Item #: N82E16826153064
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$10.00 Instant $79.99 $69.99


1 ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Item #: N82E16827135204
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $19.99


1 Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler
Item #: N82E16835608018
Return Policy: Computer Cables and Accessories Extended Return Policy -$14.00 Instant $95.99 $81.99


1 Sceptre 32" Class (31.5" Measured) 3-D Ready 1080p 60Hz 3D LED HDTV E320BV-FHDD
Item #: N82E16889112058
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$180.00 Instant $499.99 $319.99





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[StarsMine]

with your buget you can go intel, the i5 will give you more stable performance.

WHY THE FUCK are you getting a 32inch 1080p screen (also you want 120 hz for 3d not 60)? past 24 You really want to look at upping the resolution. If your looking @ 30 inch screens (1440p) give a good look at catleap.

If im goign to spend 100 dollars on a keyboard. I want a mechanical board as simple as that.

Also you have no GPU in that list.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

with your buget you can go intel, the i5 will give you more stable performance.

WHY THE FUCK are you getting a 32inch 1080p screen (also you want 120 hz for 3d not 60)? past 24 You really want to look at upping the resolution. If your looking @ 30 inch screens (1440p) give a good look at catleap.

If im goign to spend 100 dollars on a keyboard. I want a mechanical board as simple as that.

Also you have no GPU in that list.

No GPU? then what is this.. 1 SAPPHIRE 100352-2L Radeon HD 7950? <---like seriously.

Id like to stick AMD as i am familiar with AMD processors.

as for the TV, i dont really plan to use the 3D. It was simply one of the better 32 in LEC tvs i could find on newegg. Link me to something you were talking about?

what do you mean by mechanical keyboard? lol if what you mean is programmable keys, the one on my list is a 18 Gkey. then again i have may have no idea what the hell i am talking about.

[Locust]

No GPU? then what is this.. 1 SAPPHIRE 100352-2L Radeon HD 7950? <---like seriously.

Id like to stick AMD as i am familiar with AMD processors.

as for the TV, i dont really plan to use the 3D. It was simply one of the better 32 in LEC tvs i could find on newegg. Link me to something you were talking about?

what do you mean by mechanical keyboard? lol if what you mean is programmable keys, the one on my list is a 18 Gkey. then again i have may have no idea what the hell i am talking about.

Mechanical keyboards are just keyboards that instead of rubber domes underneath each of the keys, there's an actual mechanical switch. They feel much nicer to type on and are more responsive than regular keyboards. They run from around $70 up to a couple hundred.

[StarsMine]

Oops must have missed the gpu.

Sorry found this, I love 16;10 http://www.amazon.com/Dell-UltraSharp-U2412M-LED-Monitor/dp/B005JN9310/ref=pd_cp_pc_0
Catleap - information http://www.overclock.net/t/1225919/yamakasi-catleap-monitor-club

No what I mean are mechanical switches, the one your looking at uses a membrain.
http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide
all I have tried out was the red switches on a blackwidow, I think I want brown but I have not run into a place where I can try them all out.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Oops must have missed the gpu.

Sorry found this, I love 16;10 http://www.amazon.com/Dell-UltraSharp-U2412M-LED-Monitor/dp/B005JN9310/ref=pd_cp_pc_0
Catleap - information http://www.overclock.net/t/1225919/yamakasi-catleap-monitor-club

No what I mean are mechanical switches, the one your looking at uses a membrain.
http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide
all I have tried out was the red switches on a blackwidow, I think I want brown but I have not run into a place where I can try them all out.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823816002
like this? As far as "Mechanical" keyboards go? lol the one in my list i already have... just alot of keys stick from aqll the spilt whiskey over the years.

After browsing monitors.. to get the size i want (32in) id be paying double, almost triple what the TV would cost. Worst case scenario, i dislike the TV for gaming, then use it for well a tv and instead of buying another TV for my new place i purchase a monitor

[StarsMine]

@ 32inches for a desk space use I find 1080p is not adaquite.
TVs are behind in color quality as well, But if you think it will work for you go for it. Its just not something I would ever care to do.

The k90 is sorta mechanical, its all mechanical but the programable keys, and I think the 9 key.

If you go to even a walmart (the one around here has it) they might have a black widow for you to try. Or look at a best buy.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

@ 32inches for a desk space use I find 1080p is not adaquite.
TVs are behind in color quality as well, But if you think it will work for you go for it. Its just not something I would ever care to do.

The k90 is sorta mechanical, its all mechanical but the programable keys, and I think the 9 key.

If you go to even a walmart (the one around here has it) they might have a black widow for you to try. Or look at a best buy.

i had planned to order everything so that it would arrive around the same time i stepped foot in the driveway. Thus your input being valuable to me.

[StarsMine]

Well I cant imagine anyone being unhappy with mechanical keys. the reds do feel nice, I just have a hunch that I myself would prefer brown switches and have not run into a store where I can try both.

[ZERO]

o boy, raids? iv got some learn-in to do then. Also, wouldn't i want more ram and even a SSD to boost load times and in game performance? I understand that my connection speed plays the biggest role in all of this.

I am not sure if the second part was in relation to my post or not but I thought this was for 2 different computers. My post is only for the parts for the server. I would recommend RAID 6 and run a 60GB SSD for the OS on the box. For the raid it is really easy shit with that card you can even set up the raid over your browser from a second computer via the network connection on the back of the card!!

You just select the drives you want and the raid level and then wait for it to build and your ready to go! From then on if a drive breaks just replace it with a new one and the system will restore all your data after it rebuilds. In the case of RAID 6 you can lose 2 drive at a time without data loss.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I am not sure if the second part was in relation to my post or not but I thought this was for 2 different computers. My post is only for the parts for the server. I would recommend RAID 6 and run a 60GB SSD for the OS on the box. For the raid it is really easy shit with that card you can even set up the raid over your browser from a second computer via the network connection on the back of the card!!

You just select the drives you want and the raid level and then wait for it to build and your ready to go! From then on if a drive breaks just replace it with a new one and the system will restore all your data after it rebuilds. In the case of RAID 6 you can lose 2 drive at a time without data loss.

is there a specific os ill need to use?

[Locust]

Well I cant imagine anyone being unhappy with mechanical keys. the reds do feel nice, I just have a hunch that I myself would prefer brown switches and have not run into a store where I can try both.

I personally use blues. Clickty clickty :)

[ZERO]

I would just use windows to keep things simple actually I would even use win 8 b/c it has better tech for dealing with NTFS volumes (ie improved checkdisk) and is thus the better choice for keeping your data safe.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I would just use windows to keep things simple actually I would even use win 8 b/c it has better tech for dealing with NTFS volumes (ie improved checkdisk) and is thus the better choice for keeping your data safe.

Also can you link me to a hard drive you were talking about "The ones that work well with raids." how many HDD's do you think i should start with?

Also, is there a reason you didnt use server specific RAM and M/B's? Id like more ram, 16g would be nice.

[jwtemp]

I REALLY want to respond to this Mikey, as I just built my gaming rig in December and I'm pretty well versed on pricing/performance ratios on what's available right now. Give me today and tomorrow and I'll post specs I'd recommend within your price range - for every component you'll require.

[ZERO]

Also can you link me to a hard drive you were talking about "The ones that work well with raids." how many HDD's do you think i should start with?

Also, is there a reason you didnt use server specific RAM and M/B's? Id like more ram, 16g would be nice.

It is just a file server so it does not need a lot of ram or cpu, it just needs to be able to run a raid card and have dual gigabit connectivity. This selection of parts is of lowest cost to save money for the 2 parts that matter most, the raid card and the HDDs.

For the HDDS models like Deskstar (I do not believe in production any longer) WD Black and Ultrastar are the lines to look at. RE is a WD enterprise line for raid explicitly but is very expensive. Make sure that you do not get anything other than 7200rpm or above.

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For your monitor you will only want to buy ones that support lightboost so you can get the best motion image quality possible.

ASUS VG248QE (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B2HH7G0/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00B2HH7G0&linkCode=as2&tag=blurbust-20), BENQ XL2411T, ASUS VG278H (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0063BM5NK/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B0063BM5NK&linkCode=as2&tag=blurbust-20), ASUS VG278HE (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00906HM6K/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00906HM6K&linkCode=as2&tag=blurbust-20), BENQ XL2420T (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006HIKIG0/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B006HIKIG0&linkCode=as2&tag=blurbust-20), BENQ XL2420TX (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0076PO6JI/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B0076PO6JI&linkCode=as2&tag=blurbust-20), BENQ XL2720T (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BV9AOL4/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00BV9AOL4&linkCode=as2&tag=blurbust-20), Acer HN274HB.

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[Erdenay]

Most of the things have been covered here... But I would HIGHLY recommend this case - it's been nothing short of amazing.

http://www.rakuten.com/prod/rosewill-thor-v2-computer-case-tower-black-steel-14-x-bay-4-x-fan/228244070.html?listingId=200395882

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Alright guys, im going to come right out and say it. Im fucking lost as far as server hardware goes. Please note that i am committing all my free time here to learn as much as i can, so your advice here will not be in vain. Here is what id like to run when i get home, so that you server experts know what i should start putting together.

1 8 slot Minecraft server for testing mods ect.

1 100 slot Minecraft server, moderate mods.

Id like it to have minor room for upgrading when i gain more knowledge.

Server budget is about $1,300.

Please help!

[ZERO]

According to minecraft:


Requirements Players CPU RAM SDD HDD Backup WAN Up WAN Down [] Notes

Minimum 100+
Intel Xeon 4 Cores or AMD Opteron 4 Cores and better
16 GB+
120 GB empty space
1 TB backup space
100 Mbps
100 Mbps

[StarsMine]

folding @ home people know where to get really cheap server parts.

[ZERO]

For 45 players they are recommending 30Mbps internet. You can meet the server specs cheep but the issue is do you actually have the bandwidth at your house for this!?

[ZERO]

$399 512GB SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148444
$204 3.1GHz Quad Xeon: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115084
$199 Supermicro m/b: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182253
$139 16GB ECC (required by m/b): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139979
$89 2TB OS/backup drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148834
$99 Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112316
$59 400W PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703034

$1188 total before discounts (some items have promos right now and rebates not counted above

This leaves the rest of your money for OS ect. Your motherboard has integrated IPMI so no GPU ect is needed as it can be controlled remotely via lan/internet. You might need to swap one in there to configure shit but I am not sure as I have never personally worked with real server level gear.

All of the above meets and or exceeds the recommend requirements for your minecraft servers on a hardware level. These parts also represent the highest quality to ensure continuous operation. You may wish to spend some of the extra money on upgraded fans or cpu HT or even a small WC system for silent 24/7 operation.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

thank you!!!!!!!

I was thinking about staying at home, doing colo is an entirely new aspect to all of this i will have to learn.

Roughly what am i looking at monthly for a connection/bandwidth that will meet my needs?

[StarsMine]

depend completely who your ISP choices are.

[ZERO]

thank you!!!!!!!

I was thinking about staying at home, doing colo is an entirely new aspect to all of this i will have to learn.

Roughly what am i looking at monthly for a connection/bandwidth that will meet my needs?

100Mbs from Comcast is like $200/mo

[Locust]

thank you!!!!!!!

I was thinking about staying at home, doing colo is an entirely new aspect to all of this i will have to learn.

Roughly what am i looking at monthly for a connection/bandwidth that will meet my needs?

Move to where you can get Google fiber. Pay $70 for gigabit up/down

[ZERO]

I just want to point out that you could host the largest minecraft server on earth if you got this motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182346 and this ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820239425

The ram alone would cost $20000 but you would have 768GB on fucking RAM!

[StarsMine]

wouldnt a 4p interlagos server do the job better?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

ok, i revised my shopping cart after some critical thinking! I have decided to go intel due to the fact that my budget can eat up the extra cost.

Here is what i have so far, please give some feed back regarding this build!

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=22157345

[ZERO]

Looks ok but that headset it a massive waste of money.

[Locust]

ok, i revised my shopping cart after some critical thinking! I have decided to go intel due to the fact that my budget can eat up the extra cost.

Here is what i have so far, please give some feed back regarding this build!

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=22157345


Looks ok but that headset it a massive waste of money.



I agree with zero. If you're gonna spend that much on a headset you might as well buy a nice pair of headphones and a good desk mic

[acolyte_to_jippity]

I agree with zero. If you're gonna spend that much on a headset you might as well buy a nice pair of headphones and a good desk mic

http://www.amazon.com/Superlux-681-Dynamic-Semi-Open-Headphones/dp/B002GHIPYI/

(http://www.amazon.com/Superlux-681-Dynamic-Semi-Open-Headphones/dp/B002GHIPYI/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1368593491&sr=8-5&keywords=681+b)with

http://www.modmic.com/

[Locust]

I personally have these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002D03ZW/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and they are pretty fantastic.
If you do go with those you need an adapter to plug into the normal headphone jacks but they're pretty cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MDJU06/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

As for a mic I've heard nothing but good things about these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002OO333Q/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

[StarsMine]

I have that, I love it.
Zero seems to hate it though because its digital....
Look its the best mic under 100 dollars. I dont care if you can (you cant) plug in a 1 dollar POS mic to a dac and get better sound. the price of a dac like that would be leaps and bounds more expensive and the POS mic would still sound bad.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

seriously guys, the superlux 681b and the mod mic. amazing quality in both.

[jwtemp]

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Gaming-Headset-Surround/dp/B003VANOFY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1368706133&sr=8-2&keywords=logitech+headset

Sound quality: 9/10. Surround sound feature is very close to having a 7.1 setup, clarity is excellent and bass levels are surprisingly deep. Mic quality: 9/10. I've had folks say it sounds great and never had a complaint. The boom is a little large for my tastes, hence the one point deduction. Comfort level: 9/10. Pads fit perfectly over my ears and are close to noise cancelling - you don't want these if you need to hear what's going on around you while gaming! They're a bit bulky though, so minus one point. Wireless reliability: 8/10 Points deducted because 'power save mode' is annoying and is the default and because you will occasionally (once every five hours) lose signal for three seconds. Note, however, that if it's plugged in via USB, it works just like a wireless headset. Battery life: 10/10. I've had five hour gaming sessions and the battery barely went below half charge.

Side note, this set is on sale regularly for $80 and is well worth that price. Beats the overpriced $250 Turtle and other 'elite' brands in my opinion in terms of quality, making the value kind of staggering.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

that is the headset i have in my list you derp. I also need a desk...... any ideas for a good desk?

[jwtemp]

Ah, I didn't look at your cart. In that case, I completely disagree with the assessment that it's 'a waste of money.' Hands down the best headset I've ever owned, and if wireless is important to you (it is to me!) it's the best value on the market, period. With my setup, I've got my PC hooked to my 60" LCD TV, so when I abandon my computer chair and head to the couch to game from time to time, the wireless is an absolute must have.

They continue to update and improve the software as well, and since I have mine set to automatically update, I sometimes randomly sit down to better performance/new features, which is nice, haha.

[ZERO]

I have that, I love it.
Zero seems to hate it though because its digital....
Look its the best mic under 100 dollars. I dont care if you can (you cant) plug in a 1 dollar POS mic to a dac and get better sound. the price of a dac like that would be leaps and bounds more expensive and the POS mic would still sound bad.

A decent DAC is already in your motherboard if it was made in the last 5 years for FREE

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http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Gaming-Headset-Surround/dp/B003VANOFY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1368706133&sr=8-2&keywords=logitech+headset

Sound quality: 9/10. Surround sound feature is very close to having a 7.1 setup, clarity is excellent and bass levels are surprisingly deep. Mic quality: 9/10. I've had folks say it sounds great and never had a complaint. The boom is a little large for my tastes, hence the one point deduction. Comfort level: 9/10. Pads fit perfectly over my ears and are close to noise cancelling - you don't want these if you need to hear what's going on around you while gaming! They're a bit bulky though, so minus one point. Wireless reliability: 8/10 Points deducted because 'power save mode' is annoying and is the default and because you will occasionally (once every five hours) lose signal for three seconds. Note, however, that if it's plugged in via USB, it works just like a wireless headset. Battery life: 10/10. I've had five hour gaming sessions and the battery barely went below half charge.

Side note, this set is on sale regularly for $80 and is well worth that price. Beats the overpriced $250 Turtle and other 'elite' brands in my opinion in terms of quality, making the value kind of staggering.

Given how much shit I know that thing will actually sound compared to what I am using if that is a 9/10 in sound quality than what do I have 50/10. This is a fucking joke, even what I have is maybe a 7.5/10 and that is when combined with a good DAC/AMP. A fucking wireless headset could not ever in a million fucking years be better than 2/10 then you get fake marketing bs tossed in within it your kidding me.

Also did I just hear better performance from head set driver updates!? Are you telling me that these things actually effect fps now!?

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On the 23 the new nvidia chips come out so hold out till after that.

[StarsMine]

Zero most people dont buy 300 plus dollar mobo. Nearly all still use Reltek.
Hell all I have is a xonar DG and thats better then my p67 pro sound, and thats higher end then most people get.
A blue snowball is the best mic your going to find under 100 bucks.

[SCRIBBLE]

Realtek "3d" sound caused cs:s to crash constantly. It took me a year to figure out the cause as there was no technical support that solved the isssue.

[jwtemp]

Jesus Zero, did I hit a nerve? LOL It's not like I'm comparing wavelengths to determine which tweeter set will hit the highs and lows with exactly the right pitch. I'm drawing off of my own experience with headsets, both wired and wireless - and the G930 has the second best sound I've ever heard in a headset, the best sound of any 'surround' headset I've tried. Again, this is my experience and nothing more. If you've tried hundreds of headsets to determine which is 'the best,' you're certainly a more informed critic than I am.

For $80, no, you're not going to get the 'unbelievably rich and undeniably superior' performance of a Bose headset. But let's face facts - the human ear, just like the human eye, is only able to detect so much minutia in sound. Beyond a certain point, much like with screen resolution and refresh rates and frames per second, you're talking technical terms, not what it actually does to your comprehension of the sound.

I in no way suggested the headset would improve FPS. You drew that conclusion when apparently I pissed you off by endorsing my headset. LOL What I did say was that Logitech releases software updates to the headset software (which allows you to control options on the device) that periodically improve the headset's performance, not your PC's performance. I suppose I should have clarified myself a bit better.

At any rate, I recommend this headset, despite Zero's condemnation of it. :smirk:

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Enough with your petty squabbles! Im sticking with the 930 headset. why? so i have something wireless to set further away while watching movies or playing xbox. As far as quality headphones and a mic, my father is a professional musician, im sure he will sell me some of his stuff. talking $50,000 worth of equipment...


now, to what is most importent regarding my $4000 budget. A DESK, a very nice gaming DESK! help... i plan on having 2 laptops and a 32in TV on this desk.

[SCRIBBLE]

To suggest a desk you would need to provide some basic information about how much space you have, location (corner, against a wall, middle of room), chair type, your height (yes this matters, do consider your health if you are going to buy something long lasting), prefence on cable management, slide out keyboard or not, etc.

[jwtemp]

A desk has become my next PC purchase as well. Sadly, I've seen nothing that appeals to me or seems geared toward 'the gaming PC user.' Everything I find in stores and online is geared toward productivity.

Long story short, I have no advice to offer. Sorry mang. :(

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

alrighty then! The only issue is that i have not yet been to where ill be moving into when i get home. lol but based off the floor plan and pictures im sure i can make it work. Im a handy guy, modifying wont be a problem. ok lets start.

The desk will need to fit in a corner.
Pull out keyboard
Cable management would be nice but can live without it. (DIY cable management)
My height: 5'11 / 71in
I prefer sitting in a chair that is no more then 2 feet off the ground, so that i have support for my elbows to help support my wrists while gaming.
i prefer enough room on each side of me to place things ect.
i like long walk on the beach
my sexual orientation is straight.

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also, it mus be no smaller then L 60" W 27"

[jwtemp]

Well, since I can't help with the desk, maybe I can help with the seating. If you're interested in a new chair, I HIGHLY recommend this one. Affordable, comfortable and adjustable, it rivals chairs that cost twice as much. It has done wonders for my lower back pain. My only gripe is, at least on my particular chair, sometimes the back loses its angled setting, resulting in you falling back with a sudden jolt and a necessary readjustment. Other than that, it has been perfection, and it really only happens when I lean back too quickly/with too much force.

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/510830/Realspace-PRO-Quantum-Mesh-Mid-Back/

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Well, since I can't help with the desk, maybe I can help with the seating. If you're interested in a new chair, I HIGHLY recommend this one. Affordable, comfortable and adjustable, it rivals chairs that cost twice as much. It has done wonders for my lower back pain. My only gripe is, at least on my particular chair, sometimes the back loses its angled setting, resulting in you falling back with a sudden jolt and a necessary readjustment. Other than that, it has been perfection, and it really only happens when I lean back too quickly/with too much force.

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/510830/Realspace-PRO-Quantum-Mesh-Mid-Back/

That is one expensive chair dude...

[Locust]

That is one expensive chair dude...

Thats pretty average for really good chairs. There are a lot more expensive chairs out there.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

7402

sold, im wet.

[jwtemp]

7402

sold, im wet.

LOL That looks awesome. Also looks like I'll need a second mortgage on my house to afford it!

On a note about chair expense, if you buy a chair that costs $60, expect to buy another chair in less than a year (unless you want to sacrifice comfort/your back). The chair I linked to will easily last you five if taken care of, probably longer, and will be commmmmmm-fy. Consider how often you find yourself in front of your PC in your computer chair - makes the decision to spend a little more a no brainer.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

nah, im getting that chair! The other version of it that is. There is another version, an upgraded one, that is a giant ball. A capsul you seal yourself into. its only $60,000 more! totaling in at $100,000.

[jwtemp]

I'm coming to your house once it's installed. :icon_mrgreen:

[StarsMine]

fuck you man im closer. Im heading over if he gets one. play some racing games or something.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

actually, fuck that. im not getting it..... it dosnt have a cup holder. what load of shit.

[StarsMine]

you just dont want weird people coming over.

[ZERO]

I can tell you that this for basically the same price will sound better than anything suggested thus far: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Phonak-Audeo-Perfect-Earphones-Microphone/dp/B003VO0ZF2/ref=pd_sim_ce_4

Look it even has a fucking mic!

[ZERO]

nah, im getting that chair! The other version of it that is. There is another version, an upgraded one, that is a giant ball. A capsul you seal yourself into. its only $60,000 more! totaling in at $100,000.

But for 100x more you can get it inside of a giant robot that you can control!

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

i can see it now, prancing around my living room in a robot capsule playing CSS.

[jwtemp]

You could start charging admission for people to try it out and make your money back! LOL

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

ok, im back to reality. i can only think of three things left to purchase. I am sure i can find a decent chair for free. Most people are not aware of how expensive they are and through them out during fall move outs.

So all that is left is a desk and a video capture card.

I want a video capture card or what ever hardware for my other Desktop PC so i can stream live games. (i plan on taking all my ranting and rage and making videos for all to lawl at.)