"H4x0|2" walling

[CYBER]

Steam shit : "H4x0|2" STEAM_0:0:37653558 00:14 63 0 active
ban duration : perma
Reason for ban : wallhacks.
another admin also confirmed wallhacks, the admin was undercover, and in game under a different name, wishes to stay anonymous to some extent.


i will attach my demos , one by one. the key idea is that he ALWAYS knows where ppl are , and sometimes prefires at their heads. i'm gonna post the demos backwards, starting from the end since its where i got really tired of his walls.
i would gladly point out the questionable tick marks, but im tired as fuck now since its 7 am and i just spent last 2 hours specing him and i will take care of this when i wake up. but u can still watch the demos in
sv_cheats 1
r_drawothermodels 2
please be advised that i noticed that he intentionally throws sometimes a nade or shoot retardedly and no reasons at somewhere else and pretend to be focusing there , then BOOM, swivel headshot around a corner....its all an act to hide the walls... yes they were intentional because of the pattern, and no, he couldnt hear them...
also guys, look at the map as well when u can, or just the wireframe, sometimes he would camp a spot for a bit , waiting for some "random" guy to show up there, and yet never watch his back bcos he KNOWS that the person is on the other side of walls...

also in dust 2, u will see him following a guy from behind the crate, trying to knife him...
not to mention in office when he would camp between 2 filecases, and conveniently get a headshot on a guy passing around the corner, and then carry on....
nways, u have to watch them ALL , and see that it wasnt a one time thing... they might seem like many demos, but each is barely couple minutes, since i kept getting kicked for afk...

ppl always tell me to not post detailed bans....and be more confident, but i hate ppl that come here and talk shit without being constructive.
so here is the thing, if u have an opinion on the ban AFTER watching the demos, say it, if u are coming to flame me , i will make ur life a living hell on the servers, and i mean it .


demos IN REVERSE CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER, but by order of "obviousness" for the lazy ppl out therea:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8Y5IN33M
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6XNEGG3I
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JZ12VZD5
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MXSJT8NO
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7GW8PCBR
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MHTW0CVI
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=65BFP63F
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8QVGS3U0


EDIT: i just asked the admin who was specing with me to download MY demos (the other admin has his OWN demos as well,but once downloaded , that admin will post the tick marks for me, since we both agreed on some sketchy marks.) thanks anonymous faggotty admin :P

edit2: just wanted to comment on smthn he said in the intro thread accidentally, he said that "if i have haxor in name doesnt mean i hack".
my comment: true, but there is also the possibility that u openly declare that u are a "fake" hacker in order to avoid suspicion. i asked the first time how the fuck u managed to know i was 1 floor down, OUTSIDE, on crackhouse and WALKING and no one shooting on me, and u chain striked me from a windowless room on top floor without having any reason what soever to use up ur ultimate then and risk being surprised later before ur cooldown ends....
next thing u said was : wallhacks:D, as if joking about hacking to avoid suspicion. not to mention that u declared a few times : i love that the chain strike can kill someone around a corner without having to see them :D
i mean.... arent u pushing it a bit too far there? oh well... i find that the best way to avoid hacks suspicion ever is to joke about it , act blatant, which is what u kept doing, and sometimes having the odacity to call other players h4x!!!!!!!! when clearly u died from normal reasons, but a hacker will always point the finger at someone else!

[h4x0r]

To you, I was guilty before proven innocent because of what happened at crackhouse, so you made this demo trying to find me using wallhacks. The only "suspicious" activity on that demo it when i got a lucky 1-shot desert eagle kill. And to you, that is when you decided to find me guilty and ban me.

I'm 21 years old, I custom built my computer for gaming, my screen is 1080p running HD5870's in crossfire, I have very good headphones specifically for this game. Anyone who watches this video will have the same reaction Damion did:

The last thing Damion said before you cut him off by ending the demo was "Are you serious?"

It is much easier finding someone who actually wallhacks than trying to find it in these demos in which you actually looked at me for 2 hours to try and find something. I think these videos prove my innocence. If I were you and wasted 2 hours trying to find a hacker, I might just ban him for the same reasons you did.

AND "ppl always tell me to not post detailed bans....and be more confident, but i hate ppl that come here and talk shit without being constructive." THEY ARE TRYING TO BE CONSTRUCTIVE, they don't want people banned unless it's obvious they're hacking, and if someone hacks, they don't hide it for 2 HOURS it would have been more apparent. CONFIDENCE IS KEY!

[Steamer]

~ Frame 2000 seems likely it could be sound, though in wireframe it looks as if he is actually see's him and waits for him to come up the stairs.(I have camped a few seconds there at times for kills). If he is walling he is TERRIBLE at pre-firing.
~ Frame 17200 seems even more questionable but not concrete.

Again, if he is walling, he is pretty damn terrible at it or very good at hiding it.

Also, I only watched Demo 1 as you said it was the most apparent.

Also, use http://megashares.com/ . Having to wait 45 seconds to DL really F'ing sucks.

The crackhouse thing is pretty damn suspicious even if it was a fluke. If this is overturned, I'd keep a better eye out.

Demo 1 doesn't show it for me, will look at more later.

[CYBER]

~ Frame 2000 seems likely it could be sound, though in wireframe it looks as if he is actually see's him and waits for him to come up the stairs.(I have camped a few seconds there at times for kills). If he is walling he is TERRIBLE at pre-firing.
~ Frame 17200 seems even more questionable but not concrete.

Again, if he is walling, he is pretty damn terrible at it or very good at hiding it.

Also, I only watched Demo 1 as you said it was the most apparent.

Also, use http://megashares.com/ . Having to wait 45 seconds to DL really F'ing sucks.

The crackhouse thing is pretty damn suspicious even if it was a fluke. If this is overturned, I'd keep a better eye out.

Demo 1 doesn't show it for me, will look at more later.

actually demo 1 is just the last map he played, where he got like a couple "lucky" kills , specially like entering a room killing someone quickly, walk out room across hallway HS sometone across the map in less than a split sec, and then continue as if nthn happened.
i am with my family now for christmas and i cannot afford to waste time on this , i will be posting more clarifying shit later on when i can, but i think everyone here with wall detection experience can simply download the maps and watch them
(also i will be trying to upload the files less than10 mb here individually, and leave only one with megaupload so that downloading is faster.)
or u can download one, by the time u watch it , download the other until i fix that thing with the delay :)

[Steamer]

Yea.. I saw that part. It sure wasn't fast as he looked for a second and then killed him, turned around in the hallway (hell even I heard em running up in the dem) and shot him in the face with a shotty (HEADSHOT).

I'm not defending the dude, idk if he is a good player or cheats, he is very inconsistent. The demos are just "shotty".

Can I has magic 3d walling hacks that let me see behind as well in front of me also? teehee =P


Would you call this "hacks"?

lTcGVuY1OxA

[CYBER]

Yea.. I saw that part. It sure wasn't fast as he looked for a second and then killed him, turned around in the hallway (hell even I heard em running up in the dem) and shot him in the face with a shotty (HEADSHOT).

I'm not defending the dude, idk if he is a good player or cheats, he is very inconsistent. The demos are just "shotty".

Can I has magic 3d walling hacks that let me see behind as well in front of me also? teehee =P


Would you call this "hacks"?

lTcGVuY1OxA

those are professionals... that guy doesnt even have a decent kdr in game to be considered as a naturally born css hitman...
he didnt have a very high score in game, more like mid high, since he was up against bigdumbanimal, myself, carina (at some point , under name Boo), and damion... i mean, we all have decent skills, bda and i are top 10, and so this guy didnt make it far up in game, but he definitely had an edge over most ppl if we didnt have fast reflexes to catch up to his walls.

[h4x0r]

Let me just clarify this, that night I was playing to have fun, sometimes I would be in the zone, sometimes not. Yes I was being very sarcastic which, to some, would seem suspicious. But what I can tell you is that CSS is $5 right now and if I were going to Hack, then I would be way too lazy to try and cover it up for 2 hours to save $5.

Put on some good headphones, watch the demos, and you'll see my reactions are natural. Thanks.

[CYBER]

Let me just clarify this, that night I was playing to have fun, sometimes I would be in the zone, sometimes not. Yes I was being very sarcastic which, to some, would seem suspicious. But what I can tell you is that CSS is $5 right now and if I were going to Hack, then I would be way too lazy to try and cover it up for 2 hours to save $5.

Put on some good headphones, watch the demos, and you'll see my reactions are natural. Thanks.

soooo, are u saying you don't mind being banned bcos the game is cheap and u can just get another one if proven to be hacking here?
is that the first time u've used that line before ?:)

[h4x0r]

"soooo, are u saying you don't mind being banned bcos the game is cheap and u can just get another one if proven to be hacking here?
is that the first time u've used that line before ?"

Not at all, Cyber, I would like my SteamID unbanned because I wasn't hacking, I'm probably more experienced (10 years since 1.3) than you, anyone who has played this long will see i'm not hacking in your videos.
If I didn't respect the server (it's a great server) then I would not have started this thread. Most hackers who get banned for hacking do not go through the Trouble of contesting the decision, they just buy another copy.

Back when I moderated my server 4 years ago, I too made the mistake of banning someone because I didn't understand how experienced they were, and it looked suspicious.

Now please give me another chance to show you i'm not hacking, and unban my SteamID.

[taz1stP]

"soooo, are u saying you don't mind being banned bcos the game is cheap and u can just get another one if proven to be hacking here?
is that the first time u've used that line before ?"

Not at all, Cyber, I would like my SteamID unbanned because I wasn't hacking, I'm probably more experienced (10 years since 1.3) than you, anyone who has played this long will see i'm not hacking in your videos.
If I didn't respect the server (it's a great server) then I would not have started this thread. Most hackers who get banned for hacking do not go through the Trouble of contesting the decision, they just buy another copy.

Back when I moderated my server 4 years ago, I too made the mistake of banning someone because I didn't understand how experienced they were, and it looked suspicious.

Now please give me another chance to show you i'm not hacking, and unban my SteamID.

nope not really most hackers try to get proven innocent so that they dont have to spend extra cash and they can say that they won the argument

[h4x0r]

Well I can't judge a hacker when i'm not one, so you're probably right...

[Clone]

that was a sick fucking player holy fucking shit!!!!! damn kids these days are getting better then us old men..... fucking little shits... but I will say that if i was getting owned by a kid in game right next to me Ill walk over and own him in reality :P

also... what this thread all aboot? i didnt read anything....

Clone

[CYBER]

Can someone explain to me how i could enter wcs now and find haxor in game????? After i perma banned him?
Please someone explain to me this , and who unbanned him? Thank you.

EDIT: apparently mr haxor u didnt waste a single second until u bought another css? right?
(apparently its his "brothers" account")
i dnt know what u guys call that, but i find it somewhat bypassing the ban i put on him by playing on his brother's account... oh well..
i will leave the call to u guys if u consider that bypassing , me , i dnt care anymore until this ban thread is conclusive.

[OMGBEARS]

That would be avoiding a ban. While I'm not at home and thus cannot weigh in on the initial ban, avoiding the punishment is definitely a bad thing.

[DeadEyeDeNNi$]

Can someone explain to me how i could enter wcs now and find haxor in game????? After i perma banned him?
Please someone explain to me this , and who unbanned him? Thank you.

EDIT: apparently mr haxor u didnt waste a single second until u bought another css? right?
(apparently its his "brothers" account")
i dnt know what u guys call that, but i find it somewhat bypassing the ban i put on him by playing on his brother's account... oh well..
i will leave the call to u guys if u consider that bypassing , me , i dnt care anymore until this ban thread is conclusive.

Cyber, Unless Z or another IBIS member actually entered the info server side, I don't think a ban is collective on all servers unless u go to each server and know how to do a ban whilst he isn't in there.

It will eventually get done but unless things have changed it will take a while to catch up to him.

[Carina]

Well I can't judge a hacker when i'm not one, so you're probably right...

Well that was just a stupid line.. You can judge a hacker without being one.. Admins on here do it all the time.. Cyber just did it with you, cuz I'm with Cyber on this one...
I would have banned you for wall hacking too.. but i wouldnt have waited as long as Cyber did.. but then again Cyber is so much more nice then me when it comes to hackers and bans..

@ Clone.. its about Haxor wall hacking but he says hes not and is not trying to convince us thats hes not, while Cyber is trying to be a pain in his ass in a very nice way =) (like always :P ) and still prove that he was wall hacking..
Which, in my opinion, he was..

Hes good at hiding it, but he made some mistakes from time to time.. But kudos for hiding it so well that it took Cyber 2 hours to prove it..

[CYBER]

Cyber, Unless Z or another IBIS member actually entered the info server side, I don't think a ban is collective on all servers unless u go to each server and know how to do a ban whilst he isn't in there.

It will eventually get done but unless things have changed it will take a while to catch up to him.

denz my man, at first i was surprised he was playing on WCS, where i banned him originally.
but apparently he was using a brother account yet keeping his own name "haxor" ... thats why when i saw him i thought he was unbanned, but he was just bypassing the ban by playing on his brother's account.

@ carina the reason why i take a long time to demo ppl is that i dont want to just ban someoene quickly and without conviction and then have to deal with the possible flame fests here...
but like always, EVERY person i ban for hacks wants to be unbanned... i have yet to see someone banned by another admin do that... which makes me look bad sometimes bcos i ban suspects that ppl dont bother checking...
but i mean, that guy made me go like WTF? all night the other time, and u know it , u saw what he did there, and somoe other admins called WTF in admin chat 10 times the other night as well...but no one is posting their opinion bcos, like me, avoiding the flame. cant blame them.
but i have to do my job.. i could just ignore him and let some other admin deal with him...but i will gladly waste 2 hours of my gaming time if i post a legitimate ban thread rather than a hasty one with a poor or short demo. catch my drift?

[Carina]

@ carina the reason why i take a long time to demo ppl is that i dont want to just ban someoene quickly and without conviction and then have to deal with the possible flame fests here...
but like always, EVERY person i ban for hacks wants to be unbanned... i have yet to see someone banned by another admin do that... which makes me look bad sometimes bcos i ban suspects that ppl dont bother checking...
but i mean, that guy made me go like WTF? all night the other time, and u know it , u saw what he did there, and somoe other admins called WTF in admin chat 10 times the other night as well...but no one is posting their opinion bcos, like me, avoiding the flame. cant blame them.
but i have to do my job.. i could just ignore him and let some other admin deal with him...but i will gladly waste 2 hours of my gaming time if i post a legitimate ban thread rather than a hasty one with a poor or short demo. catch my drift?

Yeah Cyber I catch it, I always do, and I'm not saying anything against it.. I know how you work, have been playing with you for a long time ;) so I know..
I was just telling Haxor that if it had been me, he wouldnt have played that long.. i would have done the same thing as you Cyber, no doubt about it..

[acolyte_to_jippity]

isn't using a seperate account to avoid a punishment not allowed?

[&&toasties]

isn't using a seperate account to avoid a punishment not allowed?

Yes....but I think he just wanted to play.

I don't believe he did it to deliberately piss people off.

Not with the way he's so adament about proving his innocence.

[CYBER]

isn't using a seperate account to avoid a punishment not allowed?

many ppl told me that it IS not allowed... specially if the guy in person is being investigated in...
altho every bone in my body wanted to ban his brothers' account just so that he actually DOES get perma banned (until further ruling), i kinda went easy on his this time because it was christmas... consider it a late christmas gift.
HOWEVER haxor, i do have ur steam recorded in a demo , both of them. worse comes to worse, no member of ur family will get access here to prevent u from playing...
consider that please a friendly warning, did not ban u then, altho half the admins there said its a bannable offence,....pfft... i'm becoming soft on holidays -.-

[hallwagner]

i watched the "final" demo, and i can say at least from my standpoint that it is inconclusive. no "clear" wallhacks here, but i wouldn't be surprised to find out either way if hes hacking or not hacking. sound/radar could have been used in 9/10 of those situations, with a lucky break here or there. i would say unban, and try to get some more conclusive demos

[CYBER]

i watched the "final" demo, and i can say at least from my standpoint that it is inconclusive. no "clear" wallhacks here, but i wouldn't be surprised to find out either way if hes hacking or not hacking. sound/radar could have been used in 9/10 of those situations, with a lucky break here or there. i would say unban, and try to get some more conclusive demos

again, the "Final " ban is not the 100 % conclusive one.. there are a bunch.
i will update the tick marks, i just have soo many shit to do.

[hallwagner]

again, the "Final " ban is not the 100 % conclusive one.. there are a bunch.
i will update the tick marks, i just have soo many shit to do.

well i saw nothing in the last demo to FULLY support a ban

[h4x0r]

Can I please get an unban now, My steam ID is in my profile under steamID. Thanks

[taz1stP]

this guy must have wall hacks b/c he can be able to find me no where im hiding and just walk in the room and kill me before i even get to get a shot off.

[&&toasties]

this guy must have wall hacks b/c he can be able to find me no where im hiding and just walk in the room and kill me before i even get to get a shot off.

It's not his fault you suck at Counter-Strike.

[taz1stP]

It's not his fault you suck at Counter-Strike.

quit trolling me and go suck a dick and die

[&&toasties]

quit trolling me and go suck a dick and die

You're too easy, dipshit<33

[taz1stP]

You're too easy, dipshit<33

and yet your still a slut.

[&&toasties]

and yet your still a slut.

So original.

Care to try again?<33?

[Christmas]

So original.

Care to try again?<33?

Fluffy is fat, fyi.

He told me so.

[&&toasties]

Fluffy is fat, fyi.

He told me so.

Lies.

He told me he was built like the Hulk.

D:

[emouchet]

cause he lie to girl :P

[taz1stP]

Lies.

He told me he was built like the Hulk.

D:

his name is fluffy.

[&&toasties]

his name is fluffy.

You're so late.
Like

omg late

Fuck you're drunk.

[h4x0r]

I need someone who is higher up than a $11/month admin to tell me I am hacking, While I appreciate how these admins keep the game free of most hackers, some are a little vigilante when it comes to banning, which can get veteran player like me banned in an instant.

Cyber, and Mikey, and even you taz, I would like to speak with you on why you think I'm hacking and I will gladly explain every frame of every demo to any of you.

Please, someone important review this and all my posts if necessary and evaluate my case.

Thank you.

-Mike

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I need someone who is higher up than a $11/month admin to tell me I am hacking, While I appreciate how these admins keep the game free of most hackers, some are a little vigilante when it comes to banning, which can get veteran player like me banned in an instant.

Cyber, and Mikey, and even you taz, I would like to speak with you on why you think I'm hacking and I will gladly explain every frame of every demo to any of you.

Please, someone important review this and all my posts if necessary and evaluate my case.

Thank you.

-Mike

i have never once actually thought you were hacking dude.

dont name drop my name. the only discrepancy i had with you was the fact that you were by passing a ban that has yet to have a ruling.

[taz1stP]

I need someone who is higher up than a $11/month admin to tell me I am hacking, While I appreciate how these admins keep the game free of most hackers, some are a little vigilante when it comes to banning, which can get veteran player like me banned in an instant.

Cyber, and Mikey, and even you taz, I would like to speak with you on why you think I'm hacking and I will gladly explain every frame of every demo to any of you.

Please, someone important review this and all my posts if necessary and evaluate my case.

Thank you.

-Mike

you have killed me with some insane shots and i have seen people get killed by you when you shouldn't be able to see them.

[h4x0r]

I've had plenty of insane shots every once in a while, ones that I surprise myself with sometimes, It's hard to judge who's hacking in a WCS server because there's a lot more factors (increased speed, low gravity, extra health, critical strike etc.) ... So it seems like there are a lot of BS kills, but that's what I like about the server, it's more of a challenge, and more rewarding when you kill a lvl 300 when you're only lvl 3. I just finished watching all 8 demos myself (after waiting for MegaUpload to let me) and they are completely normal, my favorite part is doing slow-motion @ deagle headshot in cs_office. That is one I surprised myself with. Anyway, i'm confident once zero watches them, he'll see the truth. I like this server a lot, I may even apply to be an admin soon :pistols:

[taz1stP]

I've had plenty of insane shots every once in a while, ones that I surprise myself with sometimes, It's hard to judge who's hacking in a WCS server because there's a lot more factors (increased speed, low gravity, extra health, critical strike etc.) ... So it seems like there are a lot of BS kills, but that's what I like about the server, it's more of a challenge, and more rewarding when you kill a lvl 300 when you're only lvl 3. I just finished watching all 8 demos myself (after waiting for MegaUpload to let me) and they are completely normal, my favorite part is doing slow-motion @ deagle headshot in cs_office. That is one I surprised myself with. Anyway, i'm confident once zero watches them, he'll see the truth. I like this server a lot, I may even apply to be an admin soon :pistols:

ohh god no.

[Tickle Me Emo]

ohh god no.

Heaven forbid anyone who can pull a K : D higher than 1 be an admin.

p.s. I haven't watched the demos, so I'm not making a comment regarding his hacking or not.

[ZERO]

I could not find anything in any of the demos player will be unbanned.

[h4x0r]

Hey i'm still unable to connect to the WCS server, any ideas?

[DeadEyeDeNNi$]

I could not find anything in any of the demos player will be unbanned.

And that's why we have Z,,, better yet, that's exactly why we need the new tiered ADMIN system so as to take the load off Z and be more efficient and fair to the bans that are not deserved in a quicker + more responsive fashion...

I would think this is a WRAP???