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Mrs. Xen_Warrior
04-05-2011, 09:18 PM
I'm sure this has been asked before but everyone is arguing about in ZMOD right now so i'm going to ask again, is the wheel barrel blocking the entrance to the small shed illegal.

(Preferably answered by Zero or some clan member please)

Steamer
04-05-2011, 09:43 PM
zm_roy_highway. ^

Amon
04-05-2011, 10:46 PM
As far as I know if it's not in the illegal cading list on the forums, then it's not illegal yet. That's why if people are confused they should post the spot on the forums so it can be decided on. It's there on the forums to stop the confusion on the server.

I've tagged people with the wheel barrel in there before so I don't think it should be illegal.

anex
04-06-2011, 12:46 AM
It still needs to be clarified under the illegal cading section. Thats our biggest failure right now. Right now, it is not against the rules to cade (not illegal). But it may be in the future. The person or admin that thinks it should be illegal to cade there, should submit an illegal cade proposition here (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/60-Illegal-Cading-Spots).

Mrs. Xen_Warrior
04-06-2011, 01:44 AM
It still needs to be clarified under the illegal cading section. Thats our biggest failure right now. Right now, it is not against the rules to cade (not illegal). But it may be in the future. The person or admin that thinks it should be illegal to cade there, should submit an illegal cade proposition here (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/60-Illegal-Cading-Spots).

There were like 8 admins on at the time, the person who was saying no the most was Ness. Not trying to call anyone out but I just want to clarify... I know I haven't played zmod in like 6 months but I always thought it was illegal too lol

anex
04-06-2011, 01:54 AM
Well, welcome back. :)

We are just trying to get everyone on the same page. Hopefully everything will be clarified in ZM so no one can bicker about anything.

XX0wnsXY
04-06-2011, 03:11 AM
hey xen. I have nothing to add to this thread, other than that :).

StarsMine
04-06-2011, 03:20 AM
I belive it is illigal, however I dont play Zmod all that often to know for sure

acolyte_to_jippity
04-06-2011, 06:41 AM
HOLY SHIT ANNEX is back!

Mrs. Xen_Warrior
04-06-2011, 08:37 AM
hey xen. I have nothing to add to this thread, other than that :).


Well, welcome back. :)

Hai guys :hug:

BladeTwinSwords
04-06-2011, 09:58 AM
I call it illegal since you have to crouch to get in there.

Mrs. Xen_Warrior
04-06-2011, 02:11 PM
I call it illegal since you have to crouch to get in there.

If that were true then I can think of a bunch of other places that would be illegal too but aren't

I say we just leave it alone, I actually died in that spot while making this thread by my co-caders fail nade so it is possible lol

KɅΞW
04-06-2011, 03:04 PM
Its a room with single entrance that is a crouch spot, so it should be illegal to cade it.

Steamer
04-06-2011, 03:39 PM
It's not imposable to break. It is also a easily flippable object. Using teamwork it is easily broken. One person in it is pretty easy to kill. When you have 2 or more and one is actually shooting it to keep it together it becomes a bit harder. There are plenty of other cade spots on certain maps that are much harder to break and legal.

acolyte_to_jippity
04-06-2011, 04:47 PM
It's not imposable to break. It is also a easily flippable object. Using teamwork it is easily broken. One person in it is pretty easy to kill. When you have 2 or more and one is actually shooting it to keep it together it becomes a bit harder. There are plenty of other cade spots on certain maps that are much harder to break and legal.

it's still cading all entrances to a crouch spot.

Steamer
04-06-2011, 05:33 PM
I guess that is true. There should be a sub to that rule when it is still possible to break. Seems rather stupid IMO (no disrespect).

Well I guess there are a ton of new illegal spots that people cade now even if its easily breakable. Guess I'll start posting them all.

acolyte_to_jippity
04-06-2011, 05:47 PM
I guess that is true. There should be a sub to that rule when it is still possible to break. Seems rather stupid IMO (no disrespect).

Well I guess there are a ton of new illegal spots that people cade now even if its easily breakable. Guess I'll start posting them all.

no need. that rule is all that's needed. individual spots are only neccessary when a certain spot requires special attention.

X 1 Viper1
04-06-2011, 06:09 PM
It is an illegal spot...has been for the last year, i am tired of people trying to bend old rules, because "it doesn't follow the written ones exactly"

Steamer
04-06-2011, 08:06 PM
It has not been. It was only recently made illegal? by a rule technicality. Before that it was just hearsay.

As Anex said,
"It still needs to be clarified under the illegal cading section. Thats our biggest failure right now. Right now, it is not against the rules to cade (not illegal). "

Then again it is breaking a written rule. IE: Barricading all entrances to a crouched spot. Though being such a tiny crouch entrance and so easily broken, it just does not make much sense to me.

Being brought up on more than one occasion I think this one does require a bit of special attention.

Some spots made illegal by a rule technicality's just doesn't make sense if they are pretty easy to break.

StarsMine
04-06-2011, 08:16 PM
Recently?
It was banned before we changed to zombie source

Steamer
04-06-2011, 08:35 PM
Recently as in when the zm rule section was posted (02-02-2011 01:54 PM ). Playing their for a bit, that's pretty recent to me.

Rage
04-07-2011, 03:10 AM
I had brought this up about a year or two ago and it was debated and the result was it was not an illegal spot. It is actually quite easy to break with teamwork like someone said before me.

Holy fuck I miss roy highway!

Mrs. Xen_Warrior
04-07-2011, 05:27 AM
I didn't put up this thread so we could all voice our opinions back and forth about whether or not it should be illegal, we need someone to who actually has the authority to make a decision like that to choose A or B.

Doesn't look like that is going to happen though.

Steamer
04-07-2011, 06:19 AM
Anex has already said it is legal.

Then again it breaks a written rule. Barricading all entrances to a crouch spot.

Confused myself anymore... lol

Rage
04-07-2011, 02:26 PM
Anex has already said it is legal.

Then again it breaks a written rule. Barricading all entrances to a crouch spot.

Confused myself anymore... lol

This is true, but there is also a loophole. its a fucked up situation regardless

Tickle Me Emo
04-07-2011, 05:35 PM
Barricading all entrances to a crouch spot.

If it breaks this rule and we want it to be legal, a thread should be created in the illegal cading section, and if the people with the power (clan) decide they want it to be legal, they can move that thread into the legal cade section. Seems simple enough to me.

acolyte_to_jippity
04-07-2011, 05:41 PM
If it breaks this rule and we want it to be legal, a thread should be created in the illegal cading section, and if the people with the power (clan) decide they want it to be legal, they can move that thread into the legal cade section. Seems simple enough to me.

yay! procedure!