rules are rules or are they

[brett friggin favre]

well without a demo i'm a bit confused. i have no idea what happened, what the disagreement was, who was on which side...

strider wards are wards. that should be pretty obvious. as far as poison nades go...that's a tough situation, used to be they weren't allowed on objectives, now the wcs rules state that they're allowed but are not to be spammed, while the server rules state that smoke nades aren't allowed on objectives at all.

for the rule on strider wards, refer to rule 5:
5. Wards are not allowed to fully block an objective. Warding rooms that contain hostages is not allowed, however, if a shadow hunter is summoned to the objective, the shadow hunter does reserve the right to drop his wards. This rule applies too strider as well.

saying it applies to strider implies that strider wards are just as much wards as shadow hunter wards are. but again...i have no idea whose side im on here as i have no idea who's on what side. no demo...and without a demo, maynard's gonna jump in and close this when he gets a chance. and since i don't like you, i'll let you find the demo yourself.

edit in response to tj26's edit: warding the dropped bomb is illegal. we understand mistakes happen, you might not have known you were doing it, but it is illegal. usually i'd say a warning would be in line, but a kick isn't exactly the worst thing. also as stated before, strider wards to count as wards. despite contradiction between the rules pages, i'd say poison nades are ok as long as theyre not spammed, as with any other objective, as that's how we've been handling it for some time now, but keep in mind that may be officially changed back to the way it used to be soon. as for fuzz, if he saw the ward himself and knew that noisy had placed it, he's perfectly fine in using a kick. however if he did it purely on hearsay, it probably should've just been a warning, which knowing you noisy, would eventually lead to a ban because of you calling him out. i'm not the one who makes the calls in this section but from what i can gather, i can see no abuse here as the bomb was indeed warded. however it could've been handled better, and now we all know better for future reference.