Roman Scum: "The Mafia Game." (REGISTERED PLAYERS only here)

[brett friggin favre]

I see you read my accusation report and cherry picked who you "roleblocked" to discredit it. Not even counting that your evidence is based entirely on your word where mine is based on direct quotes from Blade's helpfulness from before he was indoctrinated and details from night scenes.

If you idiots vote to lynch me I hope to Aco that Blackmage has a way to protect himself during the night so mafia can't kill him and end the game with a stalemate. Assuming Aco believes Mikey is town and isn't convinced by the Legion of Doom to lynch him.

my evidence based on my word? it's based on things said by other people, on who i blocked, and on the fact that i was cleared by the cop as innocent. i don't see where your theory is any more based in evidence than mine, and trying to discredit mine based on a lack of evidence is grasping at straws.

[Blackmage]

Went to a party for half an hour. Ended up staying for 3 hours instead. Oh well, haven't seen him since last summer.

Carm doesn't like me. Noted. Wonder if she has double votes, or if she just forgot she already voted for me. Well, moving on.

Next, what are people's take on this? Yes, I'm trying to prove he didn't target me.

Onto answering Brett.

On day 1, let's go through the choices. Carm made two posts, claimed a womanly role, and didn't vote. Wolf had a few posts, gave no information and "voted at random". Chikun voted for Aco and then tried to vote for Scrib. The five other non-aco players voted for a townie. Aco is baby jesus, the only thing he has is confirmed townie. So, the choices were, people who vote for townies, people who say nothing. No good choices there, but we have a confirmed townie. While we can make abilities for him till our faces turn blue, the ONLY thing we knew was confirmed townie. He's also in "baby form", not adult. Tell me, who would YOU have protected? Why would you leave our savior in the hands of the Romans? Remember, the angel DIDN'T save him in his own book.

On day 3 I had the choice of the STILL faux-silent Carm and the 5 people who voted against gaining any information. The only real choice I has was protect Aco, or join in the game of Russian Roulette everyone else decided to play. Anyway, what were my chances of protecting a mafiaso if I DIDN'T target Mikey? There were 2 cases were it was better to not target him. Either if he is mafia, or to just protect Aco. Otherwise, it's totally random. However, Aco was also voting against knowledge. On the cult topic, A: it didn't factor into my action that they were in the game, as I sent it in before lynch result was up. B: it wouldn't have mattered in any case. Anyone could be cult, even someone who was innocent last turn, it wouldn't have given me anything more to go on. Well, I could have just no protected, but that wouldn't help.

On my statement after the night, you're right, I was unsure. Still am. I targeted Mikey, so what were the chances I'd actually target the person who was going to be killed?

I also was pushing for Chikun day 2, and was ignored. You people lynched Wolf instead. Now that we know we can't trust Blade's info, there's no reason to push for Chikun any more than anyone else. Related, exactly who have I moved hard on?

Reasons for Chikun: Depending on how much truth Blade told, may have been proven scum. VT is an odd claim, especially when people think he has a night ability.

Reason for Brett: If we think he's been cult'd or had investigation immunity.

Reason for Carm: She won't say anything, so can't make any case for or against her. Is your role Granny?

Reason for Mikey: Assuming he's Nexus, it couldn't be proven if he WAS Mafia.

Reason for Me: Blade tried to clear me, I made an outlandish claim. If mafia, may be why Blade died.

Reason for Aco: If he didn't have cult immunity, and Nem thought this was the case, he might be cult. No other reasons that I can see.

Finally, Brett, do you think Carm is going to be able to participate before the deadline, or should we try working without her being here?

[brett friggin favre]

Finally, Brett, do you think Carm is going to be able to participate before the deadline, or should we try working without her being here?

most likely no. she left for the evening shift, won't be back til 1 or so. which makes things tough. due to her inability to participate in these discussions...i can see why she would be discarded but if there are 2 mafia, we miss today, they kill another tonight, game over. carm's my 3rd suspect right now...and i'd be reluctant to vote for her.

for being seemingly so bored over in afghanistan, mikey's seemed pretty content to have us bickering back and forth. as you've said, nexus is usually town however it could be mafia as well...blackmage i don't fully trust you but between chikun and mikey, what do you think?

[Chikun]

As for chikun, that's besides the game, he's been spamming my inbox with stories about dildos and whatnot and asking us to write a gay rainbow story with dandling dildos from the moon if he every died ...
and he's the reason why my inbox was full at times, and i had to empty it once per day.

Now that we got that out of the way?

That isn't far from the truth. Also, who we lynch this day will decide the game and how it ends, as I stated previously.

[brett friggin favre]

cyber's post doesn't surprise me in the least, knowing how he likes to protect his precious mafia, and knowing how he always talks too damn much. he's trying to cover for your mistake, albeit subtly.

clearly he thought his mistake of having a full inbox would have an effect on the game, and he didn't want that, so he covered your ass.

[Chikun]

Yeah, so Cyber didn't like me quoting him. Never doing that again and so should no one else.

He was not amused.

[Blackmage]

If I were to concede that "we have a mafia", my belief would be "everyone has a role". So, if I'm assuming we have a mafia, I assume Chikun is lying. Lying and is the mafia, or lying and was converted, I couldn't say. If I believe he was sending in a night action, he's also lying about VT. If I believe Blade accidentally spilled his Role information night 2, I believe Chikun is an enemy from Blade's information. But, I have nothing to go on but conjecture here.

Mikey has voted for everyone but, Brett, Blackmage and Wolfv1, and that wolf is dead. He makes a good policy lynch as Nexus. If he's mafia, he's been doing a good job of looking like he's doesn't know what he's doing. If he's in charge of the mafia, and tried to lynch Aco day 1, he may not really know what he's doing.

Actually, that's another thing. What if Carm is just a cult member without anything to do? Do you think she'd be as bored then? I actually hope she's mafia/cult this game, or she might find herself being policy lynched if she was ever active :P

If we had more members, I'd say lynch Mikey. He's dangerous and unpredictable, and so is his power. As we don't however, I'd rather vote for Chikun.What I see wrong with Mikey isn't scummy, just illogical.

However, since we don't have Carm to vote with us, we'd need Aco's agreement with either of those two. The two easiest to vote for would be myself or Carm, as those are the ones with votes from currently MIA players. I'm not going to vote for myself, but realize as time counts down, we may need to come to an unwanted conclusion. Or just decide to let the Mods and Fate decide the end. Or pray for a extension? /me prays

Question mainly for Brett, but others can answer. Why do you think no one died night one? Do you think Aco, or someone else, had a bulletproof that they haven't claimed? A bulletproof they didn't know about? That Carm isn't counter claiming a Doctor ability? That the killer just didn't attack night one? That your roleblock of Mikey bounced and hit the mafiaso who was going to kill? Can't recall if you said anything about this before.

Chikun, game isn't over till it's over. Always remember that.

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The reason I believe it would be mafia = all power roles, is because town has 2 sets of enemies, both which shrink the size of the town. If this is balanced, why would someone be USELESS?

[Chikun]

Alright Blackmage, I think we both agree that Michelle is a threat.

Unvote Brett

Vote Michelle

If she is cult with nothing to do, no loss and I doubt it because cult didn't have time to convert anyone else. If she's mafia, I think it makes my claims more credible.

[What]

Votes:
Carm: 2
Blackmage: 1
Chikun: 1

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Time is running out on the day.

[brett friggin favre]

Question mainly for Brett, but others can answer. Why do you think no one died night one? Do you think Aco, or someone else, had a bulletproof that they haven't claimed? A bulletproof they didn't know about? That Carm isn't counter claiming a Doctor ability? That the killer just didn't attack night one? That your roleblock of Mikey bounced and hit the mafiaso who was going to kill? Can't recall if you said anything about this before.

i can't say for sure, could've been my roleblock but i'm not an angel...unless the mods consider "lady luck" to be an angel of sorts. to me it sounds more like a protection, either bulletproof (could be 1-shot on aco), let's think about this....aco is jesus, confirmed town, obvious night 1 target. you claim the doctor role, but the protection night 1 seems to have been an angel, and i don't think anyone else had the role of angel. seems to me like aco has bulletproof, possibly just 1-shot, in the form of angelic protection.

as far as carm being cult...a possibility i suppose but with the suspicion of her being mafia, that would've been a very dumb move on blade's/nem's part.

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keep this in mind: assuming 2 mafia, best-case 4 town, the odds of the "gods" picking a townie is far greater than a mafia. obviously we've gotta decide this between us, with at least 1 vote that can't change due to time constraints.