Quote Originally Posted by brett friggin favre View Post
Actually it's edgers, people who don't defend, not hitting the button, nadestickers, door shooters, and phil.
It's not edgers. I'm assuming this is being brought up because of last night when we were doing a small amount of people on predator. You just cant see them. It would be different if people were just spamming bullets but you don't see them until the last second. Flash light can't help you see them better when they are running through brush. It's a troll class plain and simple. 9 times out of 10 it's a predator that makes everyone wipe because no one sees them. The reason why we have the handicap is because we always lose on maps mainly because of predators but we didn't get rid of them and instead installed a handicap. The predator is the source of it all. I do remember you could shoot off the head a long time ago and it would become visible again and I don't know why we got rid of that.

Quote Originally Posted by phil.™ View Post
Again, team work. Pred on ze is fine, it's the lack of humans defending where needed to defend, and lack of people who has a mic but fails to use it and inform when zombies are coming is the reason for the fails. It's not that hard.

You have 2-4 people defending off and back pedal at the same time. During that time of back pedaling, those 2-4 have each other's back using mic. "2 zombies on left, pred on right", "watch out, table or tree behind you, get ready to jump" -- DON'T LEAVE A MAN BEHIND. Now those 2-4 who are defending off and back pedaling towards to next hold off point, the rest who are already back, KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR ZOMBIES. Especially for pred zombies. You will hear someone give away their position, so keep and eye out. If you see a pred, use your mic and help give away their position, or use your radar. Don't be babies and hang where you need to fall back to. Defend where needed to defend, and look out for pred and not the obvious ones.

Lack of team work, lack of common sense, and straight up stupidity is what is wrong here. Not the pred class. Taking out pred class overall will babies these players.

Well yes, and me too. I'm horrible at zombie mod.
It would be a lot better if we just got rid of them all together but that will never happen. I'm all for getting rid of the predator on escape maps and removing the handicap. Other servers don't have this problem but then again they are soley configured for ZE maps where we are configed for both. Which really hurts us in the end. In the end, our server doesn't have items work right, can't use classes in skyrim and minas and nothing is configured or setup for ZE escapes. We will get rid of predator? Probably not and you're better off playing on GFL. I was on the winning team with them and went 4-3.

Play on a server that is configured for escape.