Supernatural Mafia

[acolyte_to_jippity]

I told you motherfuckers.

oh, and What, i didn't take anyone's claims at face value. only ones i gave a modicum of trust were the people that EVERYONE was trusting.

you're a truly trash mod.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I could not risk claiming bodyguard first thing because it was the exact role I was given last game which is highly unlikely.

Understandable, however, i personally would have taken the risk considering your circumstance. Yes you were given the exact role but i was the one who claimed it after taking over for you.

lol i had such a fun time in this game... watching and laughing my ass off. Please dont be offended by that and know that it was only hilarious because of the role i was given. Had i been anything but town, im sure my feeling would be much different.

What bothered me about towns play is that no one seemed to have the ability to commit to anything and take action. No one portrayed a shred of confidence, exempt is scribbles. Though scribbles turned out wrong, he was extremely confident with his ideas and plans. Indecision eventually leads to the mafia having 1 of two things. 1. time to take notes and plan on night events + Future events or 2. Time to persuade indecisive players into lynching whom best suits mafia agenda.

Typically, players who come of has being confident, are players you want to trust, especially if there logic is sound.

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Basically, the events and conversation of a day phase, directly effect a good mafia teams night decisions and future plan. Dont rely on the mafia killing off key roles because a wiki says so. I think this game is a perfect example of that. Kionay was better left alive as cop, than dead.

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***if the town seems disorganized and uncertain. Mafia pretty much has free rain on manipulating players with kills.

[Passarelli]

I told you motherfuckers.

oh, and What, i didn't take anyone's claims at face value. only ones i gave a modicum of trust were the people that EVERYONE was trusting.

you're a truly trash mod.

Aco, most of your posts have been bitching. Shit happens and What dealt with it as best he could. Be happy that What took the time to put this game together and you got to play at all.

You claimed VT when you should have soft claimed a power role day 1. Day 2 at the latest. Then you say you lied and that you are bulletproof? If I hadn't realized that you are not very good at this game I would have thought you were the Godfather. A VT changes his claim to bulletproof? Jebus.

A townie that is bulletproof is not a VT. You should have at least tried to give town an extra day or two to figure out who was scum. There are plenty of power roles that are uncommon you could have chosen from.

[Blackmage]

What, you say Blade's play was good, but you don't know the behind the scenes of THAT one. The night before he made that claim, I said I myself was going to make that claim. Was actually going to be "Eleanor Visyak", but still survivor. A big part of the reason I wanted that claim was because we could bus him and a clear to give him a clear result, but me? I had NO way of getting anything but a "guilty" result. I don't know if Blade even realizes that I felt this way. It happened during the day, so by the time I could confront him about it, there was really no reason to. Beyond that, I enjoyed my scum brothers

But, my head REALLY wasn't in this game. I was seriously of the opinion that Cyber was a werewolf, which made no sense, due to OB's trust of him. With his comment about hungry at night, and I thought he called OB a scum hunter, and there was a third thing. Took me forever to notice OB's claim, too. When I saw Cyber's code, I just said to myself "screw that, someone else will probably post what it says". This, plus quickly getting tired of the game (Day 1, watching people insult the Mod, policy lynching someone, and saying "HEY MOD", then Day 2 happened), was the biggest reason I wasn't very active.

I tried to play it my normal "play as a townie". My not voting was part of my "town persona". I did break that rule day one, not arguing to keep Stan alive. I honestly hadn't considered what What posted to be anything more than "I wash my hands of this, play on". Then I just dropped that role when day 2 happened. I got ignored and we lynched a townie, with the prevailing reason of "claim seems odd", which was one of the reason people were looking at Nem earlier in the day.

Here's what player comments I have.

Kion: you did VERY well as Cop, and as a leader. I agreed with all your investigations.

Aco: Like What said, you missed out on getting yourself targeted. The only VT I think we even considered shooting was Sin, and that's because we could be 99% sure he wasn't going to be protected. I am curious what your reveal of being bulletproof was supposed to do.

Brett: If I'd known your first role, you wouldn't have died :P But, you're a good player and you made a fine target, as we wanted to get Nem lynched. Second time around, it was you or Nem, and Nem we still thought we could get lynched. If you'd come back again, we probably would have shot you just to be consistent... But now maybe you know how I feel sometimes! *cough* WCS mafia *cough*

Pass: Even KNOWING what you are, I can't find your soft claim. Would you be willing to point out what you were talking about?

Wolf: I actually wasn't suggesting that so you'd hit a townie... I was suggesting it so we could get that day friggin over. If you hit a townie and got the game over faster, so much the better. It was actually a legit plan, that I would have eventually suggested as a townie too, since like I said, it's all in the hands of a townie, no scum input.

Nem: You seemed oddly quiet this game. You got a bum deal with that role, and weren't able to use it effectively. The night you jailed me, I had bussed Blade and Phil, so they could switch results, we gambled that you wouldn't target phil, and hoped we could mess up the information.

And now for Mod comments.

I had a few comments on the flavor-balancing of this game, though I think you did try to alleviate some of it. First, having 4 core characters, all with powers, when the mafia really can't afford try to force out a mislynch due to lack of numbers, hurt us. Then there was your night reports. THAT hurt to no end, though I don't think it was intentional. Telling the town EXACTLY what they did each night, makes fake claiming active power roles virtually impossible. Claiming "bus driver" as my role would have been difficult because everything that was done was told. Night flavour was a big part of the reason I never wanted to just "don't shoot", because your writing style was very explicit, so I couldn't count on you not giving away what we were doing, even by accident. None of the above is unfair, but it does have the added effect of giving an advantage to the town, similar to how deadlines can give an advantage to scum.

Please don't take what I wrote as complaints. If I had those, I would have made them evident when it started, either in the forums or via PM. This is just my critique of your flavour and writing style. I found your modding style to be fair. You were prompt, your deadlines, if any, didn't change gameplay. The replacement of Brett, while it was hurtful, can be understood because of the lack of player pool, and it kept the game going. While the type of punishments you meted out can be discussed into oblivion, they seemed to serve their purposes. We had no more discussion at night, no more editing, no more codes. I did enjoy the flavour posts, even if you don't know the difference between pray and prey Being from the mafia side, they were fun to read knowing the context.

For those of you who may have problems with his modding, I am curious what the problems are? I assume it's more than just the Cyber fiasco, so I'm curious what I'm missing.

[Passarelli]

I could have flayed him into shape.
But my hands were tied.
The Bleeding hearts and artists,
Let him get away with murder.

-Pink Floyd, "The Trial"

Bleeding was the red herring I pointed out. "The Trial" should easily point you to Judge, especially since I was already very likely a double voter.

Later, when Phil was demanding claims I dropped a name claim. Loki.

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Speaking of, I can finally remove that from my profile.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Aco: Like What said, you missed out on getting yourself targeted. The only VT I think we even considered shooting was Sin, and that's because we could be 99% sure he wasn't going to be protected. I am curious what your reveal of being bulletproof was supposed to do.

end the game. it prevented another multi-day deadlock, and got people to actually move along.

[CYBER]

HURRAY. The sheep has been properly lead to the slaughterhouse without much of a Behhhhhh from anyone.

What already conveyed most of what I wanted to say, and i don't feel like rehashing all the shit i've raged about privately while the game was active, so i'm just glad it's over now.


Now for those who want to move along of this shitfest and join a new game, the sign up thread is up.

[Wolfenstinger]

Wolf: I actually wasn't suggesting that so you'd hit a townie... I was suggesting it so we could get that day friggin over. If you hit a townie and got the game over faster, so much the better. It was actually a legit plan, that I would have eventually suggested as a townie too, since like I said, it's all in the hands of a townie, no scum input.

Gotcha.

@mikey - I chose you at end mikey cause I stopped caring. Had you killed me instead of Passarelli at night, I already told What to shoot you if I died. You just started acting weird and icky. Originally I was gonna just random a number between you, blade, and aco but yeah...

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Gotcha.

@mikey - I chose you at end mikey cause I stopped caring. Had you killed me instead of Passarelli at night, I already told What to shoot you if I died. You just started acting weird and icky. Originally I was gonna just random a number between you, blade, and aco but yeah...

i know i did.. lmao. I avoided lynching you.. until i got drunk and said somethings i couldnt turn back from... thus my vote for you. However, regardless of who you choose.. the lynch on you won us the game and you shouldn't of voted for yourself. There was only two people you could have succesfully killed, Kionay and Blade. I assumed you would shot at blade knowing this fact, so i was prepared to kill kionay. With 5 left, you, me, blade, aco, and kionay. You were lynched, you kill blade because you KNOW you can land the kill, i kill kionay at night, the day starts with me and aco and what posts a win scene for mafia.

If you hadnt voted for yourself, we would most likley be in day phase still. The only way for town to of won, was to lynch either me or blade. If you lynched blade, id of pushed for aco even more and likley won. If you pushed for me.. well.. blade would have been made and your only appearnt route would be to lynch the only person left who claimed they werent town aligned.

[BladeTwinSwords]

I'm more surprised that you all believed me. I mean come on, I claimed a pretty off-beat role.

I will commend Kion as the cop. You did exactly what you were supposed to.