Supernatural Mafia

[phil.™]

So everyone claimed right?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

So everyone claimed right?

Yes, however for the record .. for future games. This mass claiming thing is horrible. You out everyones roles and give the mafia exactly what they want. The mafia can now plan better on how they go about winning the game. Mass claiming ia rookie and I think we have enough enough intelligent people to play the game the way its meant to be played.

[phil.™]

Yes, i realize it is a horrible idea, but you also have to know, probably 2-3 people have lied. AKA mafia. Now we just have to see who falls in their own lie.

[kionay]

Yes, however for the record .. for future games. This mass claiming thing is horrible. You out everyones roles and give the mafia exactly what they want. The mafia can now plan better on how they go about winning the game. Mass claiming ia rookie and I think we have enough enough intelligent people to play the game the way its meant to be played.

your cop(me) is a scrub, so not neccessarily

[phil.™]

Sin: Rufus - VT
Cyber/Wolf: Dean - Hunter
Nem: Samuel - Jailer
Scribble: Sam - Bodyguard
Aco: Chuck - VT
Pass: Gabriel - Double Voter aka Judge
Phil: Ed Zeddmore - VT
Blade: Gordon Walker - 3rd Party
Kion: Bobby Singer - Cop
BM: Martin Creaser - VT
Mikey: Gwen Campbell - VT


OB/Brett: Cass - Faith Healer *DEAD*
Stan: Garth - Deputy *DEAD*
Brett: Prof - Werewolf *DEAD*
Locust: Cain - VT *DEAD*

Now who's lying..

[kionay]

Now who's lying..

you are?

[Sin]

So anyone care to offer any other strategies about how to play out the rest of the game? Or wanna just keep pointing at each other?

- Lynch Me
- Confirm Kionay is a legit Cop
- If Kionay dies Night 3, it's because Scribble didn't protect him and was lying, lynch Scribble Day 4
- If Scribble dies Night 3, it's because he protected Kionay, and Nemesis was lying, lynch Nemesis Day 4
- If Wolf Dies N3, I'd say he should target Nemesis with his one shot.


What else? Thoughts? We need strategies here.

[Blackmage]

First, if you're going to force a claim out of everyone, it's probably better to just request a mass claim. All that doing what happened yesterday is making some people look like scum, trying to slowly but surely force the cop out in the open. Before D3 started, we had 7 or 8 people unclaimed, and our cop well hidden. During the day, we systematically revealed our cop. If we had anything left, as Nem said, you're forcing them into the open. At best, you're forcing Mikey and myself to claim VT. Mass claiming is BEST done in an at least semi open, or with a flavour/role cop. In a closed, especially where it's simple to hide under "VT" Mass claiming outs power roles. At least in role maddness, people can lie for a positive reason. But, what is done is done, and wasn't all bad.

We've found that Blade claims Survivor, which while it's not harmful if it's true, can be used to explain a "not town", depending on how the mod does the results. However, this was a forced reveal, so could have been pre-emptive, or could have been true with a role he didn't even want to try to play as VT. Lying about his flavour could get him lie-lynched, but he could also be fairly sure no one would try to claim Mr. Vamp, so it's a safe fake claim.

isn't there the remote possibility that he's VT but lied to try to out someone?

Put simply, no. If he's a VT, the first person he was trying to out was... Our healer. Now, I know some of us have opinion on his play, but while it can be called scummy, has he every actively worked to lose? If he was trying to out someone, that would make it more likely he's actually scum.

The flavour on this game has been, interesting to say the least. That's what happens in a show where pretty much EVERYONE could be listed as evil. Who on the list couldn't be evil? Ed and Chuck?

Also, part of the reason people only type kion is, look at a qwerty keyboard. Look where kion is, and where ay is. I use two fingers here for kion, with minimal movement and two additional finger movements to hit the ay.

On the lynch, there IS an option that we haven't considered. How much do we trust Wolf? Not his claim, but his judgement? We can always lynch him, and let HIM decide who dies. DO NOT DO THIS UNLESS HE SAYS IT'S A GOOD IDEA. But, while this drops us by a townie, it drops us to an even number of players (supposing night kill) AND leaves the kill only on a townie. No input from scum at all. So I ask, do you feel lucky Wolf, or should we play this by the numbers? If we do this, he gets last vote, and writes who he is shooting. If for some reason they don't die, or if anyone else hammers him, we can lynch them tomorrow, and in the case of the hammer, wolf can shoot someone else, and hopefully can signal who that would be beforehand.

I'm against lynching Scribble. If he's what he says he is, he allows Kion one more investigate. Unless Nem is a Godfather Jailer. If he's not what he says he is, Kion is pretty much a foregone conclusion unless Nem can find the killer, since Nem's protection is useless there except to deny a kill. I want to lynch Nem, but don't think it's a good idea at the time. If he is town, he can stop kills by targeting anyone, which is powerful. Frankly, unless we do the wolf gambit, killing a person who didn't claim a power role is probably the best choice. No one overlaps in claims, and while Nem or Scrib could be lying, we know we have at least one wolf in sheep's clothing, and lynching them will not hurt the town's chances as a power role would. At the very least, someone like Sin would give some information.

[phil.™]

Wait, why lynch you though as oppose to me being lynched for the VT? As a VT, you have more to bring to the table than me.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Actually Blackmage, I rather enjoy playing as Survivor. It's difficult to play as but oh so rewarding when you win.

I am 100% sure that Pass is Double Voter and more than likely a townie so he is good.

We have far too many VT claims. There is no way in hell there would be this many VT's in a role game like this.