Blade's Bastard Role Game!

[Sin]

LOL You obviously don't play mafia much. Lightning Rod is a fucking troll role and a fucking negative for town. You banked on a fucking protective role using their ability Night 1 instead of waiting to use yours and figuring out through interactions on Day 1 if there was even a protection role. YOU took the RISK, YOU had other options, but YOU Robin Williams'd yourself.

YOU didn't help town.

[Blackmage]

...Lightning Rod a troll role? Yup, thanks for confirming you don't know how to play mafia. It's only negative if you're banking on playing follow the cop. Hey, look at what would have been a god awful thing to do! Yup. Stopping an insane cop, protecting the healer, and preventing the scum from getting their way. All of this was negative, and hurt the town. Would you like to continue to prove how bad you are at mafia?

Also, banked on a protective role? I knew Mikey didn't read, but I thought you at least were willing to. Glad to know I gave you too much credit. I took a risk, got killed for it. This wasn't even assisted suicide.

[I'm a zambi]

I can see the reasoning for why Blackmage did what he did.

As for my suicide, I did it because of the information given from Blackmage's death. It let me know that I was 1. confused (random); 2. paranoid (always guilty); or 3. insane (reverse results). Given that information, only one of those is useful (insane, when honestly I thought I was paranoid). Given the information I had at the time I came to the conclusion that my role was useless, which was why I self-voted. (I also wanted to spite all of you for saying self-voting is 'scummy')

I figured Cyber (I think it was?) was town and that he probably had a better role than I did so if you guys were going to mislynch it would be better done with me, since my cop results would be screwy and if I did out it would likely be on D3 so as to collect enough information. Given my (limited, 2-game) track record, I haven't yet made it past N2. Even if I managed to get a read on Minjae or Stars who weren't my first or second choices, it wouldn't have been useful, since the information I received had could have simply been the result of a confused cop.

inb4 hatestorm

[Sin]

...Lightning Rod a troll role? Yup, thanks for confirming you don't know how to play mafia. It's only negative if you're banking on playing follow the cop. Hey, look at what would have been a god awful thing to do! Yup. Stopping an insane cop, protecting the healer, and preventing the scum from getting their way. All of this was negative, and hurt the town. Would you like to continue to prove how bad you are at mafia?

Also, banked on a protective role? I knew Mikey didn't read, but I thought you at least were willing to. Glad to know I gave you too much credit. I took a risk, got killed for it. This wasn't even assisted suicide.

The problem with your theory is that you ASSUMED it would only be an INSANE cop and not the other various bastardized versions of the cop that it could have been.

Lightning Rod is KNOWN as a negative utility role and only good to throw everyone off. You banked on having the protection and giving Town a Deathless night, and if that wasn't the case your option was to out the cops flavor to him? When he could have been Paranoid or even Naive? Your reasoning for using your 1-shot Lightning Rod before you even had any information from the game was retarded. The RISK did not warrant the REWARD. As it rarely ever does with that ability.

The fact you believe Lightning Rod to be this AMAAAAZING ability proves that you've never played a game on Mafiascum. Again another play who only play on IBIS believing he's hot shit.

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I can see the reasoning for why Blackmage did what he did.

As for my suicide, I did it because of the information given from Blackmage's death. It let me know that I was 1. confused (random); 2. paranoid (always guilty); or 3. insane (reverse results). Given that information, only one of those is useful (insane, when honestly I thought I was paranoid).:

This. Risk vs. Reward not good. You suicided. Even Blade said so. You're an idiot for not thinking before using your ability, similar to what Mikey does with Vig.

[Blackmage]

You're correct on one point. I've never played on mafiascum. However, given you call Night 0, Night 1, it would seem to suggest the same about you. Not sure how this tidbit is relevant to anything, however. Scum is just one drop in a sea.

On the cop, I didn't assume anything about the cop. It would give him information IN ANY CASE. If he got Inno, it meant he WASN'T paranoid or insane. If he got Guilty, it meant he had a modifier, and wasn't Naive. ANY modifier is bad, and the more you know, the better off you are.

Looking at the risk vs reward. The reward was, protecting at least one person, or I was already everyone's target. Giving a ton of information to the town. If there was a protective class, surviving. The risk I incurred was death. Pray, tell me WHY this wasn't a good deal? If it's "because sensor is OMG good", remember, this is Ibis, where people still, after over 20 games, will force deadlines and No Lynch day 1. Recall that I also had no way to make sure I'd even live to D2. Day is the Town's time, Night is Mafia's.

You disagree with the way something is used. Doesn't mean it's bad. Vig for example.

Zambi: Even if you chose to suicide, you probably should have outed that you got guilty result N0.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Blade, i disagree.

Given the situation in game, going into Day 1 with virtually no information and getting no information during that day.. it would be stupid to use a perma protect that is stuck on one player all game.
After day two i had planned on protecting.

I dont care if the the role should "Always" be used N2. There just was not enough information by that point in the game to make a confident decision on who to protect.

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If playing smart and passive is grounds for worst player award, then perhaps you stop hosting games and try playing some yourself.

[SCRIBBLE]

This was a great game, fun read.

Continue insulting each other, I am sure that is a quality found attractive by new players to IBIS mafia games.

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The trend seems to be a player dying followed by said player posting how everyone else is terrible at the game.

The winners/living are the only good sports.

[Blackmage]

You say that like it's not something they'd find from reading any part of any of our games. If they can't deal with people calling each other stupid all the time, they're probably not from IBIS in the first place.

[SCRIBBLE]

Having a hard time assembling the words "you did not play how I expected you to play now that I know your role" or "I am frustrated that people did not read my essays/cryptic clues/incoherent ramblings" and default to "you clearly have never played a game on mafiascum, your brain no work good"?

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If they can't deal with people calling each other stupid all the time, they're probably not from IBIS in the first place.

That I can agree with.

[Blackmage]

The fact that people CAN say "I am frustrated that people did not read my essays" means that there is a problem. If you're not willing to put in the time to play a logic game, why are you joining a logic game in the first place? Frankly, many of the people who play here would be MUCH better suited for a real time site, rather than playing a forum based game.