sorry phil, ibis has been around far too long now, you guys should follow proper format in normal circumstances. but watch that demo, you clearly see 3 admins not caring about the rules at all. I know chris at least has already been warned about shit, but this is how new admins act and how they will act. IGN is That Guy, just for future reference. Yeah, they might have been just having fun on the zm server,but anyone that joins and sees that shit like i did thinks otherwise. I know the rules of the zm server, i see an admin doing that shit especially while im there looking for a little admin assistance, it just puts a bad rep on ibis as a whole. Doesn't matter if that $10 that month from that player puts a bad rap on a person and people still play otherwise. if that kind of shit keeps happening, it will hurt the clan as a whole. All involved were wrong, they broke rules, demo proves it, and thats it. Happy New Year.