The Princess Bride

[Passarelli]

It should have been clear the game was still going when night phase started as per normal. I never said this game was a beginners game. If we managed to get enough new people, I was going to run one, but we got 0 new people so I ran a role madness game instead. There are too many highly skilled people in this game for that to be the case. The only people I'd consider beginners are you and Zambi, and a quarter of the players does not dictate the difficulty of the game.

Town's win condition, as always, is you win when all anti-town factions are eliminated. That could be a 3rd party, a third mafia, or even another mafia faction.

If you had a question about the game, you could have PMed me instead of talking about the game at night. That is one of the basic rules, and one that I had already given a warning about.

[StarsMine]

The win condition of town is kill all mafia by default, not kill all mafia and anti-town third party.
If the later was the case, you should have told us at the start of the game that its kill all anti-town.

Having a 3rd mafia member when we only had 8 people is straight up bullshit. Thats why I was asking. If there is another anti-town 3rd party, it doesn't mater when they are not involved with the default win condition. This question wasnt some private thing between us, it was a failure on your part to tell town their win condition and then assume we all thought it was something other then default. It was a question and answer ALL players needed to know.

[Passarelli]

In any game with an SK, town does not win as long as the SK is alive.

The point is, even if you feel that way, you should have taken it directly into PM and asked me to clarify it or simply asked me why there wasn't a win condition in your role PM (the answer to that is there was a several month break and I'm clearly rusty. That on top of typing shit on this fucking phone makes me want to shoot people. Enough excuses though. I am again very sorry for the mistakes I've made in this game.

Simply posting in the thread at night is the wrong way to handle it.

Also:

The condition which causes a win, almost always based on a player's Faction affiliation(s). Sometimes it's explicitly stated in a Role PM, other times it's assumed to be something standard. Games where the town's Win Condition was explicitly stated in the PMs of the Pro-Town players have sometimes led to non-Town players people being lynched on account of not knowing how the Game Moderator chose to word the town's Win Condition.

[CYBER]

Buttercup never did know when to keep her mouth shut XD

(sry stars, that's just pure gold...)


sigh....
i mean zzzzz... i mean "braiiiiinsss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!" i mean... fuck... this game doe

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The win condition of town is kill all mafia by default, not kill all mafia and anti-town third party.

ok. as an objective comment here:
actually, the exact wording is : Win condition: Eliminate ALL THREATS to town.
That would also include Mafia, SK, arson, cult, third mafia, mafia traitors who didn't join the team yet, and nemesis's favorite: Niggers.\

so technically speaking you should have known that the fact that the night kept going, there's still a threat out there... it's not the first time people thought the game was gonna end, and it didnt... the fact that the mod didn't post a "CONGRATULATIONS, you have been selected to receive this survey opportunity" message and a post-end game commentary, usually implies that the game is still going ....


now im not sure how many times pass warned ppl, or if he specifically had this talk with u before. It IS a bit harsh when u simply see it , but after SOOOO many fucknig games we played... being "harsh" with instant punishments is the only way to go these days...
and questioning the mod decisions, no matter how poor they are, will just cause these games to go down the shithole again.


Anyway, I'll just be watching... and waiting for you dumbasses to start reading your goddamn roles agains and do some creative thinking instead of just going "derp" all the time...

Stars, the fact that u deleted ur msg to pass earlier about any night action u could have done when they asked u who u "gifted" and couldn't remember who u gifted less than 12 hours later probably suggests that u gave pass a headache this game like a little buttercuppy bitch <3

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by exact woridng, i mean on mafia wikis and mafia sites... or the way i have worded all my games.
i wasn't quoting pass.. just fyi.

[Passarelli]

Cyber, you are luck you are dead already.

All of you, please shut up and send in your actions.

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Lucky*

[StarsMine]

Stars, the fact that u deleted ur msg to pass earlier about any night action u could have done when they asked u who u "gifted" and couldn't remember who u gifted less than 12 hours later probably suggests that u gave pass a headache this game like a little buttercuppy bitch <3

What? my sent folder on ibis has NEVER saved a sent PM. I never deleted anything, I did not save my out going message to anything.

the exact wording is : Win condition: Eliminate ALL THREATS to town.

Where the fuck did you find this?

[What]

zZzZzZ Never had a win condition in my role PM. ZzZZzZzZzZzZ

[What]

So after much grilling about what the fuck the keeper of the zoo of death is, I have gathered a response.

First off, its his role. Its the factional kill. It allows the person to attempt a kill of someone in 1 of 4 different ways, each with a different mechanic. For each of the 4 different types of kill, one person in the Town is immune to it. If he selects the person immune to the attack, he, for some reason he did not want to say, will reveal their actual name in the flavor. Presumably on his death, the factional kill reverts to normal. The reason the Zoo was not mentioned in the second day, was due to its mechanic, not, he says, an attempt to maintain the belief that the zoo was the jail.


Hey guys for next game I'll do a DUNE one! And not the movie, all of the novels, using as much lacunae as possible to create roles and narrative! OR I know, Jurassic park! But the book, and it will include all of the stuff that movie left out or changed! Weeeeeeeeeeeee!


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[Passarelli]

As a note: if it hadn't been worded directly into the role PM, I would have mentioned the Zoo specifically by name so you guys would stop confusing it with the jail. I had figured that since I mentioned blade by name and said that he escaped would have led you away from it being the jail.

Also, What did some extrapolating there. There are 5 levels. 3 of them are just death in various ways, 1 is poison and works normally, and the 5th is the machine, which has a few other things going on with it but it never came up so I'll spare you the details for now. Also, each town player was immune to 2 or 3 levels of the Zoo. Not 1.

Also, I would be infinitely sad if you based a game off of the Dune movie.

[What]

zZzZzZzZzZ Yeah 5 levels, my bad, guess I should have cross checked the literature on that one and got some confirmation by Snopes ZzZzZzZzZz