Blade and Nem's IBIS Themed Mafia Game (Insanity Game #1)

[SCRIBBLE]

That is if he is town. There could be one voteless, one double voter.

[Trigger Unhappy]

yeah pretty sure he isn't. about... 1079% sure

[SCRIBBLE]

Of what? Town, voteless?

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We could have three town, two third party(ies), three mafia.

[Trigger Unhappy]

bomb.

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woah screwed up my percentage.

[SCRIBBLE]

What percentage then?

[Trigger Unhappy]

I'll go with 79%

[Passarelli]

Cyber continues to prove he's not paying attention to the game. Votes me again after not even unvoting. Either that, or showing he has two vote.

Anyway, I'm Zero, which is why I never was onboard for the whole Clan/admin being scum thing, and I have multiple passive abilities.

I'm throwing this vote back vote Pass. He keeps throwing vague accusations at me, and hand waves and ignores asking for clarification, ending with voting for me for doing looking for information. I will respond to your question. This is you saying we need to get information. This is the same method I used, vote wagons. The difference is, once we got a scum claim, I was pushing to lynch it, whereas you were and are still saying we should protect the VT and push more information into the scums hands. I even volunteered, right away, to let myself go down with cyber if he wasn't lying. This is more of Cyber not paying attention, as it makes his entire numbers point is moot, because the one going down would NEVER have been in question. Instead of lynching the scum, we're up to over half the players having partially claimed now. Which is something you had said would be really not good to do here.

Stars: that's the handwaving I'm speaking of. He's been doing things such as protecting the scum claimer here, and has been trying to get us to not look at it here and here, but I'm scummy.

Blackmage - Cyber, unvote, pass, unvote, cyber, unvote, pass
Pass - Ass, unvote, scrib, unvote, BM
Ass - Pass, Unvote, Stars, unvote, Scribble, unvote, scrib, unvote
Scrib - Cyber, unvote, pass
Rosie - Stars, unvote, cyber, unvote, ass
Trig - Rosie, unvote, BM
Stars - Cyber
Cyber - BM, BM

Supposing no vote changers:

Assassin 1 (L-4)
Blackmage 3 (L-2)
Pass 2 (L-3)
Rosie 0
Scrib 0
Stars 0
Trig 0
Cyber 1 (L-4)

The difference between how I went about it and how you went about it is that I didn't want anyone to claim. I just wanted wagons for vote analysis, whereas you wanted to put pressure for claims.

Claiming day 1 is either a dumbtell or a scumtell. In Cyber's case, it looked like a dumbtell thinking he was defending a townie from being exploded. The only reason I defended him before that is I didn't want the day to end that fast. Either way, I'd rather let him be for today in case there are 2 deaths tonight. Better safe than sorry.

We should have enough wagons now to figure out what is what day 2 if we manage to get a piece or two of information.

Scribble, I got what you meant. It just feels that BM pushed for claims, and has been trying to steer the conversation this whole time. Hell, he could be 3rd party lyncher and would win even if he died from the bomb, or he could have 1x death proof.

[Blackmage]

How can you analyze a vote train that just sputters out? What reason would people have to join multiple trains if they know there is no point to them? After we're done "gathering data" how would we handle who to lynch? In order to lynch, we have to allow them a chance to defend themselves, EG: Claim. Claiming day one isn't a dumbtell or a scumtell. It's how the town is supposed to gain information day one. Vote patterns are meaningless without something to back them up.

Have I tried steering the conversation? Yes. Certainly. We started the game going way off topic. Once we got into RVS, we kept having people try to pervert the game, by saying voting is bad, or that trains getting information are bad. I try to get people to actually play the game, but as per normal, we have people who would rather bore the town to death than to act on information. The main time steering the conversation is bad is when you try to obfuscate the facts.

We would have been far better off day 2 if we had gone and lynched the scummy one instead of getting 4 claims. Instead, we no longer have the element of surprise. What more information do you want the scum to have? That we don't have a doctor so they can have free reign? That we have a lightning rod so they need to use their strongman today? How far do you want us to take this?

[Rosie]

Unvote

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This day has went on for 2 weeks now. Thanks Ass and BM for clarifying the soft claim. But other than the claims I haven't noticed anything other than BM trying to hammer a claimed town. The Lyncher theory makes as much sense as anything I have read. Vote Blackmage

I really do want to thank you for attempting to explain the game though. Your post did more to help me than reading the first 21 pages.

[StarsMine]

BM is such a shit vote
To make it so whoever hammers gets a choice

Unvote
Vote Pass