007 Warden [70] v1.1.1

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Wasn't warden immunity previously a chance for a necklace on spawn? I don't remember being able to spam ultimate to get through his block. Of course, ultimate immunity works different all around now, so...

yeah, it use to give you a necklace for free.

[taz1stP]

can we get his mole to activate right before the teams are able to leave spawn so people just dont camp there spawn and wait for the mole and blow his head off before he gets to even see them.

[CYBER]

can we get his mole to activate right before the teams are able to leave spawn so people just dont camp there spawn and wait for the mole and blow his head off before he gets to even see them.

i havent had a successful mole neither... ppl would camp their spawn first 15 secs and shoot me on sight...
i kinda would shoot first ask questions later too if a random guy spawned "late"...
he should spawn with them there?... shadow hunters and others can prevent him THEN...

[Tickle Me Emo]

I haven't had major issues with this, but that's because I only play warden on maps that support it - in other words, that have spawns that aren't too easy to camp out. You have to play smart what maps you go warden on, or yes, you will get camped. I also usually do not play warden for an entire map, because once the enemy team catches on it's much less effective. IMO getting insta-gibbed is the risk of going mole - that's why you have a free respawn as your ultimate.

Changing the mole time changes the ability drastically. If you spawn before freezetime expires (old school style), you get insta-shot by people who look for names colored of the opposite team - if you're really lucky and no one notices, you can tear half their team apart before getting killed. If you spawn immediately after freezetime expires, you have the same scenario as before, but with vigilant people looking out for those appearing as freezetime expires rather than name colors. If you spawn 3 seconds after freezetime, you have a hybrid which can do pretty serious damage, but also has the risk of being camped, though less so than 6 seconds (our current setting) due to the spawn rush possibly still creating confusion. Finally, you have our current setting of 6 seconds.

Of those four hypothetical settings, the first two I strongly disagree with implementing - if you go unnoticed you can level half a team's worth of heads with a silenced M4 before anyone knows what the hell just happened. I would be okay with trying out a shorter delay after freezetime to see if that reduces the likelihood of simply being insta-killed, without overpowering the mole ability.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

it's fine as it is. waren has never been one of those "career" races. you're not meant to play it for long perios of time, simply because people will expect moles then. instead, play it for a few rounds, and when the other team gets use to moles appearing (an thus, they wait for it) switch off and your team will get an advantage since the opponents won't leave for a time.

it's all about strategy

[maynard]

it's fine as it is. waren has never been one of those "career" races. you're not meant to play it for long perios of time, simply because people will expect moles then. instead, play it for a few rounds, and when the other team gets use to moles appearing (an thus, they wait for it) switch off and your team will get an advantage since the opponents won't leave for a time.

it's all about strategy

what he said. once again cyber... things are set up the way they are for a reason... and we will be returning the races 2 there former glory... if we made you spawn with the enemy team, you would have even less chance for a successful mole, cause every 1 at the beginning of every round would be hovering quickly over every 1 looking for either a name in blue or red that doesn't belong... common sense.

[ZERO]

I should note that we will consider changes in the future once all of the races are back, but not before.

[CYBER]

what he said. once again cyber... things are set up the way they are for a reason... and we will be returning the races 2 there former glory... if we made you spawn with the enemy team, you would have even less chance for a successful mole, cause every 1 at the beginning of every round would be hovering quickly over every 1 looking for either a name in blue or red that doesn't belong... common sense.

yeah, after reading emo's post (was it emo?) just after me , i understood why it is the way it is,
u guys are right. i was just informing about the way it is. thanks .