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    Quote Originally Posted by dice View Post
    Fluffy, since when is capitalism bad? If it weren't for lobbyists and corrupt politics there would be MUCH more competition in the ISP world - enough competition that corporate "greed" would be held in check by competitors. Money talks, and when the government lets things take their own course, generally, markets have more competitors and the economy benefits. Read ZERO's first 3 or so posts. +3 internet points.
    I don't recall ever saying that capitalism is bad. I recall saying that it's fairly dense to suggest that the solution to the problem at hand is best carried out by individuals whose political convictions are at odds with it.

    You can't merely cut loose regulated monopolies and expect any kind of positive outcome. Unfettered capitalism is viable strictly on the notion that competition keeps corporations in check, to the benefit of consumers, and falls apart in the face of uncontested monopolies. If you're seriously suggesting that massive deregulation of service providers will suddenly spur healthy competition and resolve the issues at hand, then you don't understand the service provider industry.

    I don't understand why you ask me to read ZERO's posts. I have worked for years in the service provider industry, and I have been in the industry in a time when regulated monopolies were abolished. I know first hand what works, and what doesn't work.
    Quote Originally Posted by &&toasties
    I'd do Fluffy any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dice View Post
    You want net neutrality?

    Vote republican.

    Bonus points: Support Tea Party.

    I'm not gay but if I was Ron Paul would be my love crush. I'm not sayin... I'm just sayin.
    Are you for serious? Pro-business, selectively small-government pretend-libertarians are going to use big-government methods to enact anti-business measures in distinctly non-libertarian manners?

    The government is complicit, but the government isn't the cause. Corporate greed is the cause, and libertarians have no problem with that.
    Quote Originally Posted by &&toasties
    I'd do Fluffy any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acolyte_to_jippity View Post
    i'm not saying sit quietly, but ddosing and other such actions just give the government much more reason to step in.
    You don't know Anonymous very well then.

    Peacefully protesting across the street isn't against the law. And Fox News made a mockery out of them. Legion isn't some secret gang of internet bullies. They believe that knowledge should be free, and I do too. The government is censoring more and more, and even illegally taking control of websites..

    Who do you think found the person who threw puppies into the lake? They do good, but if you ask for something to benefit yourself then they'll probably rip you a new one.

    Honestly I don't really know all that much about them, but for some reason my views are different than yours regarding them. Also, I think there were two hives, one who threatened, and one who went about it peacefully, only exposing information.

    This isn't the only problem going on either (censoring the internet and various other things regarding it's use), they are invading our constitutional rights, conditioning us and changing things more and more.

    +1 to Fluffy's post btw.

    The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.

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