Gung game and camping...

[&&toasties]

what do you mean its not official, its rule 4.
Excessive camping means making the round take longer then it has to in GG.

Yes, EXCESSIVE.

If someone goes to the same perch round after round after round, then that's excessive camping.

But it's enforced that one can't stay in one spot for more than 10 seconds.

Otherwise it's considered camping.

Catch the drift I'm coming from?

[Link]

I think that, for the most part, it has been left to the discretion of the admin present.


Personally, if I notice someone camping, they get a warning about it. I am not a big fan of slaying people, causing them to lose levels. I prefer to slap them for 0 damage, just to get the message across. It usually takes a few rounds of consistent camp-esque behavior before I get onto them beyond a warning or single slap.

The only camping I nominally am fine with is if the person in question has a zoomed weapon...scout, awp, auto sniper.

As one of the gungame admins I have had to remind myself not to jump the gun (haha) when people linger in one spot, occasionally. I'm not perfect about it, but I think that overall, we have a good thing going, for the most part.

As far as Zero providing a hard and fast definition of camping, from his own perspective that is binding, the only one of which I am aware is the rule in server, no excessive camping.


Now, that being said, someone camping does often piss people off, and if I'm present, I just don't want to let everyone get upset because some guy's using strategy. It does depend on the situation, the map, and if they're genuinely into the game, as opposed to camping around for a simple, and sometimes unfair, advantage.


As far as what has been said about the inspiration behind this thread...I personally would err on solar's side. If the situation transpired like he said, people not getting levels because you were afk on a technicality, while still getting kills yourself...well, I believe that to be a form of cheap gameplay that I wouldn't have permitted, myself. To each their own.

One thing I particularly like about the way IBIS does things is that, for the most part, the admin's discretion is how it goes down. Yes, we have the outlined rules, for a good reason, but the admin has the final call in the moment and will live with the consequences of his judgment.

Happy New Years, all.

[CYBER]

depends on admin, map and sometimes the game play.

i used to be all about slaying ppl for camping...found out it takes u nowhere...
nowadays i would warn the person that is DELAYING THE GAME, to stop camping.
usually with warnings, oral, then chat, then slaps with 0 dmg.

i mean if someone is camping SAME spot everytime, u can just prefire on their ass knowing where they are...
but if they camp different spots for a LONG time without bothering to either seekout a kill or anything....
for example, if there are only a couple ppl playing,and rthe guy is still camping... meh i would then slap the "no excessive camping" rule into him.

i do have to say that if i see a person "excessively" camping for days and days and ignoring my requests to stop , i WILL slay/kick/5-min-ban him, not just for camping, but excessively camping AND ignoring admin.

PS: i personally think that the TOS rule about camping should be written in a more elaborate way, and the thread should be commented on with specific cases such as churches or small maps like aim-shotty , or camping towers like in pink_panther, or vent camping like in complex, or house camping in simpsons desert and the streets one maybe? etc..

[Solarsoul]

I think that, for the most part, it has been left to the discretion of the admin present.


Personally, if I notice someone camping, they get a warning about it. I am not a big fan of slaying people, causing them to lose levels. I prefer to slap them for 0 damage, just to get the message across. It usually takes a few rounds of consistent camp-esque behavior before I get onto them beyond a warning or single slap.

The only camping I nominally am fine with is if the person in question has a zoomed weapon...scout, awp, auto sniper.

As one of the gungame admins I have had to remind myself not to jump the gun (haha) when people linger in one spot, occasionally. I'm not perfect about it, but I think that overall, we have a good thing going, for the most part.

As far as Zero providing a hard and fast definition of camping, from his own perspective that is binding, the only one of which I am aware is the rule in server, no excessive camping.


Now, that being said, someone camping does often piss people off, and if I'm present, I just don't want to let everyone get upset because some guy's using strategy. It does depend on the situation, the map, and if they're genuinely into the game, as opposed to camping around for a simple, and sometimes unfair, advantage.


As far as what has been said about the inspiration behind this thread...I personally would err on solar's side. If the situation transpired like he said, people not getting levels because you were afk on a technicality, while still getting kills yourself...well, I believe that to be a form of cheap gameplay that I wouldn't have permitted, myself. To each their own.

One thing I particularly like about the way IBIS does things is that, for the most part, the admin's discretion is how it goes down. Yes, we have the outlined rules, for a good reason, but the admin has the final call in the moment and will live with the consequences of his judgment.

Happy New Years, all.

As i stated early this wasnt about camping it was about not playing he was not playing he was moving his mouse and shooting just enough to not get kicked from the server. 1 round he would move his mouse and shoot, another he would do nothing. this was about removing a small problem from the server for the time being, players need to be respectful towards other players, and going Afk for at least 7 rounds is not a good way of doing that. and its not about the whole afk thing its about the afk 1 round not the next but then afk then not back and forth. i solved the problem, until he could resolve it himself. end of story. THIS WAS NOT FOR EXCESSIVE CAMPING> this was for being dumb pretty much. if everyone thinks the camping rule should be cleaned up then fine, but no one here should get the idea that he was banned from the server for 5 mins because of excessive camping because not one time during the warnings verbally or threw chat did i say stop camping, i said play correctly or get out its not fair for the others players in the server. after all was said and done he didnt leave so it forced my hand cased closed problem solved, unless a clan member or Zero has anything else to add. if your so concerned with the rules read them, and if you dont understand PM the guy who made them for better understanding.

[Steamer]

I said no names of who banned me, nor is this a damn abuse thread. Yet you feel the need to explain yourself about it. Get the hell over it.
There is nothing in the Server Rules 1.7 about camping. There is NOTHING there to understand. Maybe you should read them before directing me towards something that does not exist.

All I am wondering about is a clear cut answer.

[Solarsoul]

I said no names of who banned me, nor is this a damn abuse thread. Yet you feel the need to explain yourself about it. Get the hell over it.
There is nothing in the Server Rules 1.7 about camping. There is NOTHING there to understand. Maybe you should read them before directing me towards something that does not exist.

All I am wondering about is a clear cut answer.

I am not explaining myself i am explaining what exactly happened.

SINCE YOU USED MY BAN AS AN EXAMPLE TO ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT CAMPING I AM SIMPLY STATING YOU WERE NOT BANNED FOR CAMPING (SO GET OVER YOURSELF.)

and as others have said camping is deciding by the admin since a base rule has not been made and you shoudl respect the admins wishes for not camping.

[Steamer]

Your explanation has nothing to do with this topic, get over it. I get your explanation and do not disagree with it, other than the stupid part. Either way this is a question on camping, not why I was banned.

Admin's do not make server rules, but I do respect their decision until one is stated.

Question still unanswered.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Your explanation has nothing to do with this topic, get over it. I get your explanation and do not disagree with it, other than the stupid part. Either way this is a question on camping, not why I was banned.

Admin's do not make server rules, but I do respect their decision until one is stated.

Question still unanswered.

here is the answer:

if an admin tels you to stop, do it. then, if you have a problem with it, come here to the forums. do not try to start something in-game, as that will get you in trouble.

literally, that's the best you will get. zero's rules state no excessive camping. however, what is excessive becomes up to the admins