The problem with ZM the 800lb gorilla.

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Second is admins, I will admit flat out that 90% of the admins that come from ZM are bad. What happens is you have admins who noclip, play with item restrictions, slap people for fun, set people on fire, make people fire bombs, change maps, put up constant votes, make people invisible or just do things like kick/ban people who cade with them etc etc....Rezel said it best is that you arn't an admin on the server for your own personal gains, you are there for the 30 other players on the server.

I know what you mean and its annoying. I had an admin last night who unrestricted so he could us it. Limited it to one for himself. Trust me when I say Andrew that shit in zm is going to change pretty soon for the better... I hope.

Third are the rules. There is no 'rule' section on ZM and heck there are about a dozen official illegal cad spot threads on ZM its no wonder why admins constantly conflict each other and players have no idea whats going on. For example we all know cade breaking is illegal? But how do you handle it? Do you handle it differently if it was on accident or someone being a douchebag? Also there is this whole cading crouch spots issue and 2 per tube? Also what if people disconnect or go into spec to miss being tagged from a zombie? There are some real rules that need to be mad official so maybe admins might now how to handle certain situations.

Rezel and I are trying to sort all that nonsense out. As of right we are trying to figure out which spots should be deemed illegal based on a criteria because honestly, not all caded crouch spots should be illegal. However we should switch our main focus over to server rules. That is on our list but mainly we have been working on the official illegal cades list. However official server rules will be our top priority. After we make a draft, we will submit to you guys for review to ensure accuracy.

The "two per tube" issue is tricky because really more than two people in tube screws people over a lot. Hopefully we can clarify this issue with blocking as a human to prevent others from ruining your tubing experience.

2. Also perhaps clan members should personally msg certain admins be like hey, if you don't knock it off that 11 dollars is going to waste and there is a chance you'll be perma banned from all the servers. Or even a 'rules' section that says if an admin is caught doing X that will be considered abuse.

That is currently going on. Also if others are not around, take a demo and post it in the admin abuse area so we can crucify their ass.

3. Simple, create an official ZM rules post. And as for illegal cading spots I think a lot of you are 'kidding' yourself about getting into certain area's with 10 people shooting at you with shotguns and para's. So why not make it simple, all crouch spots with 1 entrance can not be caded. No cading with a money crate. Who cares how many people per tube? You can't shoot through people so the more people you have the more of a disadvantage you are at. Rule concerning blocking of both humans and zombies. I would also like to add that its the objective for zombies to tag people, if a zombie is refuses to try and tag anyone thats bannable/kickable(of course under the right circumstances, if they have 3 health thats one thing) To many times 1 zombie spawns and he just lets himself be killed.

Understood. I'll add you on steam to see what rules you think should be (aside from the ones you already have here).