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    Quote Originally Posted by acolyte_to_jippity View Post
    ffs, people are just being retards about this.
    They probably haven't seen the edited provision yet.
    Make all your last demands for I will forsake you and I'll meet your eyes for the very first time, for the very last.

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    at the end of the day, what is there to even fucking worry about if your an honest hard working citizen?
    Personal reform

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ_MikeyRevile View Post
    at the end of the day, what is there to even fucking worry about if your an honest hard working citizen?
    There's the fear of ending up like the honest, hard working citizens who were detained without charge, or flown to countries where regard for human rights is low, and tortured. Fear based on precedent seems fairly rational.

    It's nice to know, though, that I live in a country where I can be detained indefinitely without the protections that supposedly make it great.
    Quote Originally Posted by &&toasties
    I'd do Fluffy any day.

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    Aww shit, a resident (green card holder) like me is fucked then. Welp, better start that application for citizenship.

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    Yep, let's give government more power, sounds good to me.

    Tastes like your moms kisses.

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    remember if u get caught with 99 hits of acid they cant do shit but if its 100 u will be put in jail for conspiracy to over throw the gov by genocide. just a little bit of info there so u best make sure u count well. XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chikun View Post
    Yep, let's give government more power, sounds good to me.
    We all know how well that works



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    Quote Originally Posted by Chikun View Post
    Yep, let's give government more power, sounds good to me.
    That really isnt the case here though. People read that article and blow it way out of proportion. To fear what that article has to say simply means you fear the military and at the end of the day all the military will be doing is there jobs. its not giving more power to the government, its the government giving the military the right to apprehend possible and current threats to our national security and homeland.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy Frufflebottoms View Post
    There's the fear of ending up like the honest, hard working citizens who were detained without charge, or flown to countries where regard for human rights is low, and tortured. Fear based on precedent seems fairly rational.

    It's nice to know, though, that I live in a country where I can be detained indefinitely without the protections that supposedly make it great.
    then you haven't read up on the act, LoW and all of the other tacked provisions. If you are an honest working law abiding citizen, why would your life be any different? Just continue to live the way you have been for years. its not like soldiers would be out at every street corner setting up checkpoints to inspect your vehicle before entering citys. Besides, if you have been deemed a threat to the united states of America you would be "Processed" as one, just as someone being taken in as a PoW overseas. You are a PoW after being detained, you should be treated like one under the LoW and civil court is not part of that process.
    Last edited by DJ_MikeyRevile; 12-08-2011 at 07:26 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ_MikeyRevile View Post
    then you haven't read up on the act, LoW and all of the other tacked provisions.
    Feel free to elaborate.

    Quote Originally Posted by DJ_MikeyRevile View Post
    If you are an honest working law abiding citizen, why would your life be any different? Just continue to live the way you have been for years. its not like soldiers would be out at every street corner setting up checkpoints to inspect your vehicle before entering citys. Besides, if you have been deemed a threat to the united states of America you would be "Processed" as one, just as someone being taken in as a PoW overseas. You are a PoW after being detained, you should be treated like one under the LoW and civil court is not part of that process.
    "Deemed a threat" outside of the traditional judicial system, with no protections afforded. This kind of legislation keeps the country in a permanent, self-perpetuated state of war against an ideology, and the people that it accuses of following it. Keep in mind that being exempt from required detainment merely makes the detainment discretionary in accordance with the rest of the bill, and as far as I recall, the executive branch has come out and said that U.S. citizens and residents are fair game if they're deemed to be engaged in terrorism.

    Declaring war on everyone who looks at you the wrong way, and giving military and intelligence agencies unilateral discretion to make that determination is the modus operandi of a police state, not of a free society. No nation with a legitimate respect for civil rights and justice would ever need this kind of legislation.
    Quote Originally Posted by &&toasties
    I'd do Fluffy any day.

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    I'm starting a revolution who's in?

    unless I get arrested for saying that...

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