mILAN. <3 12/29/2011 3:50 est STEAM_0:0:25761339

[SCRIBBLE]

If you're going to post 2 huge ass demos at least do us a favor and note the fucking tic it starts. I watched 20 minutes of vid waiting for you to spec milan. I'm not wasting my time on the other two because the bunny hopping looks pretty legit. I have never seen a bhop script mimic the full mouse movement.

If you care to share what happens in the other two, please feel free.

[Steamer]

I hear many of his footsteps. Good bhoping though. Bhoping script, micro gear, mini track balls, good macros, they all do the same if made right. Why scripts are just out, idk. Seems like a micro/track to me, or just a bad script.

auto-pistol, quickzoom, bhop, all things that can easily be done without scripts on multi-binds and work in the same way... scripts just make it well,... simpler, and free up a button for something else. Just saying...

I also don't see how this warrants a perma. Not hacking, not really cheating. I also don't see in the rules themselves where it says people cant use scripts besides speeding scripts (with accelerate, bhoping "could" be considered), or cade breaking ones.

Adding a line to the exploiting subsection about scripting to gain unfair advantages (ie: autoshot / knife, bhop , quickzoom, quickswitch, ect). could fix some problems, or just create more for admins to deal with.... These things have been in the game for YEARS and I don't see them being gone anytime soon or at all.

[Spasm]

I think most of those other scripts aren't a big deal, I do think b hop scripts are a big deal though. It is very hard to b hop on a 66 tic server without a script. That is for a good long length. I haven't watched the demos, and I really am refusing too until it's uploaded to the forums. It's on zmod so he may be using a predator or speed zombie, in that case it is a hell of a lot easier to b hop and I would almost say he's not scripting.

Don't know if you ever played with Roen on pub, that guy used a script and this was when we were 100 tic. Dust2, him T, you CT, you run towards double doors, hes already b hopping around the corner on short A by the time you walk through the double doors. To me, that is a unfair advantage. He did/does use a script though. If you can b hop that far without a script on 66 tic then you are fucking great at b hopping I guess.

[SCRIBBLE]

I hear many of his footsteps. Good bhoping though. Bhoping script, micro gear, mini track balls, good macros, they all do the same if made right. Why scripts are just out, idk. Seems like a micro/track to me, or just a bad script.

auto-pistol, quickzoom, bhop, all things that can easily be done without scripts on multi-binds and work in the same way... scripts just make it well,... simpler, and free up a button for something else. Just saying...

I also don't see how this warrants a perma. Not hacking, not really cheating. I also don't see in the rules themselves where it says people cant use scripts besides speeding scripts (with accelerate, bhoping "could" be considered), or cade breaking ones.

Adding a line to the exploiting subsection about scripting to gain unfair advantages (ie: autoshot / knife, bhop , quickzoom, quickswitch, ect). could fix some problems, or just create more for admins to deal with.... These things have been in the game for YEARS and I don't see them being gone anytime soon or at all.

If you can't bhop without a script then that's exploitation in my opinion (if you use a script instead). I think the rules are written to allow for some and not for others.. ie admins using their own judgement to an extent. This is one case of an admin using their judgement, though I think he shouldn't have been banned and instead this should have gone in as a user request instead. I go in BHOP servers to watch people. Some script(when I say script it is inclusive of multi-binds, etc), some are simply well practiced.

I haven't watched the demos, and I really am refusing too until it's uploaded to the forums. It's on zmod so he may be using a predator or speed zombie, in that case it is a hell of a lot easier to b hop and I would almost say he's not scripting.

Most likely this will slip past the 30 day limit and he will be unbanned before the demos get uploaded to the forums.

[Spasm]

Downloaded the long ass demo and watched, looks legit to me. Closed.