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    Obama. Pussy democrats like to concede that this guy is a failure but compare him to most other presidents and you see a pretty extraordinary rate of success in pushing through his agenda.

    Bitch and moan about the deficit, but it's
    A) Dishonest to say he greatly increased the deficit without acknowledging that past administration faked their numbers by not counting military spending
    B) He had to cave on the Bush tax cuts, but he WILL let them expire in 2013 and you will see the deficit numbers drop

    Don't get me started on de-regulation. The GOP consistently runs on pro-corporation agendas and none of that has trickled down to the rest of us in 30 years.

    And if I see another picture of Ron Paul giving the Constitution shock paddles, I will fucking anally fist that person until they like it. He's a gynecologist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie Marlow View Post
    Obama. Pussy democrats like to concede that this guy is a failure but compare him to most other presidents and you see a pretty extraordinary rate of success in pushing through his agenda.

    Bitch and moan about the deficit, but it's
    A) Dishonest to say he greatly increased the deficit without acknowledging that past administration faked their numbers by not counting military spending
    B) He had to cave on the Bush tax cuts, but he WILL let them expire in 2013 and you will see the deficit numbers drop

    Don't get me started on de-regulation. The GOP consistently runs on pro-corporation agendas and none of that has trickled down to the rest of us in 30 years.

    And if I see another picture of Ron Paul giving the Constitution shock paddles, I will fucking anally fist that person until they like it. He's a gynecologist.
    all i care about obama is this:

    he doesn't keep his promises. what the fuck is a president if he can't keep his promises to his people?

    Through the darkness of futures past,
    The magician longs to see
    One chants out between two worlds:
    Fire, walk with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brett friggin favre View Post
    all i care about obama is this:

    he doesn't keep his promises. what the fuck is a president if he can't keep his promises to his people?
    you see a pretty extraordinary rate of success in pushing through his agenda.
    If you want a guy who will keep every talking point he makes, just don't vote at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie Marlow View Post
    If you want a guy who will keep every talking point he makes, then vote for Ron Paul
    Fixed.
    He has been advocating for the same shit for 25 years+ not once changing his mind or taking back what he originally said. Integrity is a trait this man has, obama has lied deceived and is slowly turning this country into a warmongering welfare state.
    Personal reform

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ_MikeyRevile View Post
    Fixed.
    He has been advocating for the same shit for 25 years+ not once changing his mind or taking back what he originally said. Integrity is a trait this man has, obama has lied deceived and is slowly turning this country into a warmongering welfare state.
    Warmongering welfare state? LOL.

    The best reason to not vote for Ron Paul is because of his agenda.

    Yes, let's make the public school system even worse. Let's let social darwinism play out - the poor can die in the streets if they can't find a job that will afford them the ability to buy into an insurance plan. Trust in Jesus Christ and the free market. That's basically Ron Paul's whole schtick. If the rich keep getting richer, it's because they're awesome and they'll eventually throw everyone else a bone - as opposed to hoarding all their cash while skimping on payroll and benefits.

    Whatever, my bank account grows with Ron and shrinks with Obama. I should be voting for Ron, right? Vote for the Ron Paul oligarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie Marlow View Post
    If you want a guy who will keep every talking point he makes, just don't vote at all.
    Agreed. Exactly what I'm doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ_MikeyRevile View Post
    Welfare is a flawed idea and it defeats the point of a person becoming a dependant, honest, hard working citizen. Free handouts are not free.
    Your a fucking idiot. As far as service members... There really needs to be a cutback, then you wouldn't be facing so many orders, healthcare, and pay cuts. 80% of my friends are in some form of military service, I frequently visit them at their bases, and also do my job within many of said bases and government buildings. The amount of waste (labor, item, financial) is utterly fucking ridiculous.

    IE: Pallets of unused LCD screens, over a year old.
    Pallets of 100$+ laptop cases just tossed in dumpsters.
    Members of active services doing absolutely shit.
    I've seen janitors work harder.
    There is soooo much more I could list.
    I'm not bashing our military service members at all, there could be plenty of restructuring and dept relief going on though. The government cash flow I see wasted on a weekly basis is not understandable with our current economic downfall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brett friggin favre View Post
    all i care about obama is this:

    he doesn't keep his promises. what the fuck is a president if he can't keep his promises to his people?
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ises/obameter/

    Only 63 broken promises. Most of them to do with earmarking for things he believes needs funding, but we cannot afford to fund right now. He was stalled on 67 promises he tried to keep but was swatted down with. What is impressive is that he's kept 168 promises and has passed timed legislature on another 156 promises. If you count his compromises as political victories, he has an AMAZING record. If not, he's still either kept of started the ball with 64% of EVERYTHING he has promised.
    Quote Originally Posted by maynard View Post
    your helmet is being shipped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie Marlow View Post
    And if I see another picture of Ron Paul giving the Constitution shock paddles, I will fucking anally fist that person until they like it. He's a gynecologist.
    ronpaullol.jpg
    lol

    Tastes like your moms kisses.

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    My district is a republican; Rosemary Brown, I voted for her.

    My senator is Robert Casey. Lol I remembered the Casey, I had to google his first name.

    And Mikey, YES I'm asking you to sacrifice more. Our country is on the brink of self destruction. I'm paying more in taxes, paying more for gasoline, I'm volunteering time to help those in need and I'm giving back more than I can afford myself. We are ALL required more. When we became an independent country, the citizens themselves picked up arms. Not a military, a CIVILIAN militia. One made up of the people for the people. Several of them sacrificed EVERYTHING and they had NO cushion. No pay, no health insurance, no meals from the government, just the promise of a better tomorrow for their children and so on.

    We are at a turning point in the country. EVERYONE has to give more. When Obama wanted to cut funding for Planned Parenthood, I stood behind him. When he wanted to cut several other faux pas programs I stood behind him. There ARE people that NEED welfare. My mother was one of them. And then she finished college and I had a better life. It helped her be independent while she finished her studies and moved on to her career.

    There ARE more things that can be cut, social security needs to be bumped up to 70 or even 75. (It was a program designed for people that lived BEYOND life expectancy to continue being able to fund their lives and not starve to death when they COULDN'T work any longer.)

    Wasteful spending (The F-22 raptor for instance was cut) NEEDS to be cut. We need to get out of Iraq AND Afghanistan, we need to STOP stockpiling nukes, we need to decommission MORE of them so we don't waste money on the upkeep.

    But I'm not saying to PICK one. I'm saying find the corners and cut them. We don't need people crying that they aren't getting free healthcare. And if you say Obamacare is free healthcare, you're full of shit. Obamacare is regulation on the insurance industry and the people in order to cut MORE government cost when it comes to saving lives. If you go to the hospital and can't pay your bill, NO LONGER should it fall on the government's shoulders to pay the bill. If you have AIDS, you should NOT be dropped by your insurance company.

    If you want to bitch and moan that you're not getting it as easy as you were, build a time machine and go back to that point, if you can man up and make the sacrifices that everyone else is making, then make them. Tomorrow is a brighter day, but we can't get there without doing, today, what needs to be done.
    Quote Originally Posted by maynard View Post
    your helmet is being shipped.

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    ya know what...i give up. i fucking give up on politics. i'll keep up to date with shit as much as i need to keep my own ass out of the fire, and anyone else can just. i'm gonna give whatever i give to society, i won't expect shit in return, but at least i'll know i tried and i didn't waste my time bickering endlessly about it. i'll be myself and THANK GOD that's a decent person, and i just won't concern myself with political horseshit til it knocks on my doorstep with a fist-shaped dildo and that dirty look in its eyes. at that point, maybe i'll do something that involves politics but ultimately: i don't agree with any single politician, my one vote doesn't have any value outside the historical and sentimental value which i personally put pretty far down on the totem pole, and most importantly it's like trying to have a conversation on the origin of species in an alabama tabernacle or a conversation about anything logical in the zmod server. WASTE OF EVERYBODY'S TIME. politics are the appendix of our society: long ago, in a galaxy far far away, it had a use...but we (and most importantly, politicians) forgot what it was long ago. i mean seriously, what the fuck is the honest, decent citizen to do when he has to try to help his country and all he has to work with is people who STUDY HOW TO ARGUE? i figure out how to solve problems, build shit, make things, and they study how to disagree. da fuck is that shit? so yep i'm done with politics. done voting, done arguing, done with this senseless circle jerk and if anyone has anything to say about it;


    Through the darkness of futures past,
    The magician longs to see
    One chants out between two worlds:
    Fire, walk with me.

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