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    How does isolationism benefit our economy? How does getting rid of regulation make the market stronger? If you take the founding fathers on their bare words, you have misogyny. That was the norm back then and I'm ALL about the constitution but things have changed. Companies, since America was founded used children to climb into their machines and forever disfigured them without the disability benefits or settlements for the children. Companies used paints that KILLED people. Companies used insulation that is STILL killing people.

    America from it's foundation was made with room for improvement. There are ALWAYS oversights, so breaking the system to its bare bones do NOT benefit us. That is why I refuse to give Ron Paul my support. The ideas he has sound GREAT, but will never come to fruition and he will be a lame duck President if he were to be elected. Instead, we're left with two grumpy old men and a "cheerful" one. Let's take a look at that, there are candidates with no morality, no substance, no grasp on christian values, no grasp on American values, no mercy, terrible business ideas, and then there's Santorum.

    I could write books on how bad Santorum is (I'm from Pennsylvania). He bankrupted our state and ruined education here for years. He voted for No Child Left Behind, and intervened with government decisions about a private manner. He extorted the state for Charter School Vouchers while homeschooling his children. He moved OUT of the state while serving in it's senate. When he moves into the White House, he's likely to lead it from Canada at that rate.

    This leaves me with my candidate. President Barack Obama. A man that has done more things that were left unsung or unpraised in 4 years than we've seen from any president since Lincoln. Look it up, Lincoln almost lost re-election because Americans felt he was betraying them. During his first term, America SPLIT. He was threatening to bankrupt the economy by REMOVING their source of cheap labor. He ran on a platform of "We can't backtrack progress and I'm the only candidate to stay the course". It was what America needed then, and it is what America needs now. Look him up on Politifact. He kept a LOT of his campaign promises. The ones he broke were earmark promises that we couldn't afford to support. Better than that, check out his In The Works page. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me.../in-the-works/

    Most of his accomplishments wont be recognized for another 2-10 years and when they are, he will be praised. That is why there is still Hope and he is my candidate.
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    If Paul does not get the nomination then Obama. I will never vote for the other three.

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    I'm voting for Ron Paul hands down. As a military member, I completely agree with everything he supports. I was for Newt Gingrich because he's a badass, but I realized that's not a reason I should vote for someone who's going to run the country for 4 years.
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    I want the person who supports most of what I believe in and that is Ron Paul. He shares in my view of a limited federal government that operates under the laws of the constitution and not the political flavor of the month.

    As far as obama I see no ideological difference between him and FDR and Wilson. These people are Fascist and these ideas have already been destorying our nation for almost 100 years. Continuing it will only make things worse.
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    I like what Ron Paul has to offer, and I also hate getting into political debates, but to sit on your computer and believe that Obama is actually doing something positive or constructive or has a 'plan' is just ignoring the world around them.
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    Since Obama's inauguration our national debt has gone up 10 TRILLION dollars.

    Since George Bush (Jr.) was in office, 8 years for those who don't know.. national debt went up almost 5 trillion.

    Obama may be trying to change things, but he's only making them worse.

    'nuff said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meowmix View Post
    Since Obama's inauguration our national debt has gone up 10 TRILLION dollars.

    Since George Bush (Jr.) was in office, 8 years for those who don't know.. national debt went up almost 5 trillion.

    Obama may be trying to change things, but he's only making them worse.

    'nuff said.
    Most of the debt Obama had to put the U.S. into was to save the declining economy BECAUSE of the 8 years of rampant stupidity.

    Anyways, in my opinion Obama has us on the right track and he'll be getting my vote. People expected change to happen instantly, but he had to do so much damage control it was ridiculous. If Obama doesn't win, I truly hope that Ron Paul gets elected, because if Mitt Romney wins...I'm moving to Canada.

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    If it wasn't for social programs, like welfare, and medicaid, I'd probably be homeless, or working at McDonald's with no health insurance. And If I didn't have health issuance, I'd be dead, I'm pretty certain about that. That's why I want universal health care, people get sick, good people get sick, why let them die? No one should have to choose between paying rent, and paying medical bills.

    I, however, was able to get up again, and attend a large four year university. I have a 4.0 average. I never was on welfare because I was lazy, or I did crazy drugs. It's because bad things happen to good people. The question is let those people die? Let those people get lost in the system?

    I HATE people who abuse welfare, like fat hos who have more children then they can afford just for more welfare. Or lazy people who sit on their ass smoking crack from welfare money. I personally want to slit all their throats, and feed their corpses to pigs. I think you should be drug tested before you receive money, and I believe that there should be a limit on welfare money that doesn't depend on the amount of children you have. I also think there should be a reasonable time limit to stay on welfare, only wavered if you can prove you need more time to get back up on your feet again, and you have EARNED that extra time.

    I do have some classical liberal ideology, and I will admit Ron Paul has good ideas. But there's a very BIG difference between what sounds good and looks good in your head, and what is actually practical. I think if corporations were given free range, they would NOT do the right thing. I think they would become more greedy then they ever have been.

    Also as woman who identifies as bisexual, I'm at a loss for getting a job, and keeping a job, if corporations don't support equal rights. Last month I was in Washington DC lobbying for several bills. ENDA, and The payment fairness act, along with others, but these are most relevant. ENDA would make it so gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgenders could be protected from discrimination in the workplace. Payment fairness act would ensure equal pay for equal work. Woman make far less than men do in the workplace, and it's complete bullshit. I wish I could make a man into a woman, only for a day. I'd set him up with a job interview. Then turn him back into a man, have him interview for the same job,and see how different the experience was.

    I'm VERY intimidating. I'm loud, I am demanding, I demand respect, and when I walk in the room I make it known. I'm highly opinionated, and I don't back down. It also helps I'm almost six feet tall. Plus I belch like a truck driver, which my dad screams at me for not being 'lady like'. None of these things is what is expected from a woman. But that's me. That's a turn off for a lot of men, and employers. Why? Because we have such set-in-stone-ideas of what woman, AND men are "supposed" to behave like.

    Why would I vote for Obama because as a minority, and a woman, he does what's in my best interest. I also believe everyone deserves a fair playing field.

    /end rant

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    Less regulation for corporations? Mhmm even more insect filth that's allowed into my food: http://www.fda.gov/food/guidancecomp.../ucm056174.htm

    Ever read Upton Sinclair's The Jungle? Shit's disgusting too

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    I agree entirely with male genitals here. Obama for 2012.

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