Mithyk, 3/19/12, ~4:30 ET, STEAM_0:0:2386546

[XX0wnsXY]

I'm going to vote no. I really don't see anything to support walls and I see nothing conclusive on the aim assist. Not saying he's not, I'm just saying that this demo does not provide enough evidence for me to vote yes. I see a few lucky shots is all.

[brett friggin favre]

I'm going to vote no. I really don't see anything to support walls and I see nothing conclusive on the aim assist. Not saying he's not, I'm just saying that this demo does not provide enough evidence for me to vote yes. I see a few lucky shots is all.

fair enough. i'll keep an eye on him and let you guys know if i get harder evidence.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

i dunno just watched him in WCS just now, he left shortly after i went to spectate but as normal game speed it looked like he had 0 recoil when using his deag, ill post the demo here for further/potential evidence and review it myself

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Edit: watch tick 12600-13400 in r_drawothermodels 2, i kinda lawled inside. Also take note of the irregular recoil.. if he was trying to hide no recoil.. he fucked up by picking up a p90 (;

[brett friggin favre]

thanks mikey. i dunno about the walls, i mean yeah it looks fishy but i'd need to see more to call him on that, but again i see the irregular recoil, that demo shows it pretty well.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

thanks mikey. i dunno about the walls, i mean yeah it looks fishy but i'd need to see more to call him on that, but again i see the irregular recoil, that demo shows it pretty well.

8k as well he traces someone thew the house as he travels on the east side of the house, though he uses Gaze.. gaze is not up the entire time he traces.. which leads me to belive more evidence with walls. Its normal to trace a player when they are gazed, but to continue tracing them as the start to move again, look away then turn RIGHT back at them and trace some more.. no thats deff walls lol.

[brett friggin favre]

8k as well he traces someone thew the house as he travels on the east side of the house, though he uses Gaze.. gaze is not up the entire time he traces.. which leads me to belive more evidence with walls. Its normal to trace a player when they are gazed, but to continue tracing them as the start to move again, look away then turn RIGHT back at them and trace some more.. no thats deff walls lol.

8k is meh, yeah he's right on the guy twice but again not conclusive...close though. if he's toggling, he's being really careful about it. around 11k with the gaze, the spec view is bugged a bit. if you slow it down you can see the gaze on the guy, mithyk turns to the left, sees the gaze, and when he looks back to the right it's bugged and not showing. but you can see that before he shoots the guy, the gaze is on him. there are also a few things that dont make sense if he was walling, the guy that got killed by the rock for example and opening the closet door upstairs. it's a pointless door and he surely wouldn't open it if he was walling.

i still say the recoil pattern is abnormal.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

8k is meh, yeah he's right on the guy twice but again not conclusive...close though. if he's toggling, he's being really careful about it. around 11k with the gaze, the spec view is bugged a bit. if you slow it down you can see the gaze on the guy, mithyk turns to the left, sees the gaze, and when he looks back to the right it's bugged and not showing. but you can see that before he shoots the guy, the gaze is on him. there are also a few things that dont make sense if he was walling, the guy that got killed by the rock for example and opening the closet door upstairs. it's a pointless door and he surely wouldn't open it if he was walling.

i still say the recoil pattern is abnormal.

the the problem though when you watch a demo all cookie cutter like. If I was really trying to hide it and keep a high Kdr... Is let my self get killed a few times here and there. I'm saying that the amount of accidental traces is above normal in that short time. As for the guy.by the rock , the proceeding round he stalls in spawn as if turning them on. The rock guy was before him doing so.