Vote Ness 4 President

[NLA]

I wouldn't say that only a few people know me, not at all in fact, and I think my time as admin (and accumulated 896 hours on the server) speaks for itself: I've always been a fair admin, and I manage players effectively to keep the server fun and worth coming back to.

But really, if the only thing that matters for clan is that I'm super active and post-happy on the forums, then I think the priorities for clan membership are totally upside-down. Clan members should be responsible individuals that can manage the servers fairly and promote the kind of fun that keeps people coming back to Ibis, and maybe have some role to play in the forums for disputes (reviewing demos, voting on permbans, new map submission / old map deletion, etc). A clan member should be articulant, and not belligerent. A clan member should be someone that has playered on the servers for years and knows how the whole thing operates, and what it takes to operate smoothly. And it would really help if a clan member actually knew something about server admin'ing on the UNIX back-end, so ZERO doesn't have to shoulder the whole load if something goes wrong from server updates or someone exploits the server to avoid ban or grant unprivileged admin powers, or whatever!

If that is what being in clan is all about, then I'm absolutely the man for the job, despite what you may think about me based on my post count. But if the biggest requirement is post activity on the forum, and none of those other things matter worth a damn for clan, then I'm sure I don't want anything to do with clan.

[brett friggin favre]

you may be the man for the job, but since you only play zmod and aren't active here, nobody knows who you are. you should also know being a clan member is about dedication, and a lack of activity here and on the various servers doesn't show that. i have never played with you to my knowledge and that's a testament to what i'm talking about. there are 4 servers here and an active forum community. playing on zmod for a while doesn't qualify you for clan membership, not by a long shot.

[NLA]

you may be the man for the job, but since you only play zmod and aren't active here, nobody knows who you are. you should also know being a clan member is about dedication, and a lack of activity here and on the various servers doesn't show that. i have never played with you to my knowledge and that's a testament to what i'm talking about. there are 4 servers here and an active forum community. playing on zmod for a while doesn't qualify you for clan membership, not by a long shot.

So what, I need to consistently play 3-4 hours per day on all four servers to qualify for clan? For years? Who has that kind of time? And why should I need to be jack of all master of none? I love ZMod and GG and I stick with them, but while I'm certainly open to playing on the other Ibis servers some more, I don't think that should be held against me. I've popped my head into Pub and GG before and seen admins I've never heard of and have never seen posting on the forums before. Not everyone has the time to legitimately play for hundreds of hours on all the servers, apart from checking in and performing admin duties, and it's ridiculous to expect that as a clan requirement. And I know that not all clan members stop by and play ZMod on a regular basis, so that sounds like a double standard to me.

Like I said before, I'm much more active when I have adminship because I have to be responsible and check on the forums. And don't try to belittle almost 900 hours of server time (in ZM, which doesn't include however much time it has taken to rack up 54 wins in GG over the years, which the server doesn't report) and having had admin multiple times over the years with no abuse threads.. that is exactly the kind of stuff that a clan member should be required to have. And I do.

If I'm the man for the job, I'm the man for the job.

[brett friggin favre]

-.- my points have been made, it's pretty clear i'm not the only one who makes those points, you can agree or not i really don't care.

[NLA]

Where is the love?

[Bane of Soldiers]

Ummm, I don't know about any other zm regulars, but I haven't seen you in ZM for freaking ages Ness.

Plus, I don't know how the fuck anyone thinks "rank" on the ZM server makes you in ANY WAY qualified for clan. And your hours aren't anything special, I have as much hours on CSS, ~1040 of it on zm, and I'm a fucking pebble on the road.


I hate to open old wounds, but you would rank pretty low on the list of applicants on trust points, concerning your little rank predicament with Naked Saturday almost an entire year ago.

Just like the others, your app made me lol a bit. I've played with you more than a number of times, and you give me the impression that you play for lol's and strike out as the polar opposite of what a clan member should be. The attitude of your app doesn't change that impression...

The measly opinion of your fellow zm regular:
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[acolyte_to_jippity]

I wouldn't say that only a few people know me, not at all in fact

this is true. i wouldn't say nobody knows you. i'd say most of those people just don't like you all that much.

[NLA]

I won't make excuses for not having played recently, but let's just say that my 6970 has been RMA'd for the past 3 weeks. And before that, I had finals. And before that, trying to graduate from college. I can't play every day, no matter how much I want to. Doesn't mean I'm irresponsible and would make a terrible member of the clan, just means that shit happens.

concerning your little rank predicament with Naked Saturday almost an entire year ago.

Took the words out of my mouth Bane: that was almost an entire year ago. ZERO ruled that only Naked was responsible, no one else, so you're absolutely right, there is no need to "open old wounds" which have already been deemed closed.

And I agree with you: I do play to have fun, and if playing on the Ibis server isn't about having fun for you, and its all serious business, then you're doing it wrong. This is not to suggest I don't obey and enforce the rules properly as admin, as my record of being an admin shows.

this is true. i wouldn't say nobody knows you. i'd say most of those people just don't like you all that much.

Man, I've been accused of being a troll before, but you just take the troll cake, eh? Thanks for the constructive criticism as always, Priest. You are truly a ray of sunshine in a world of skin cancer patients, my friend.

[Dj panda]

Definite -1 , Pushes the wrong buttons and rarley is any active at all/

[Steamer]

Took the words out of my mouth Bane: that was almost an entire year ago. ZERO ruled that only Naked was responsible, no one else, so you're absolutely right, there is no need to "open old wounds" which have already been deemed closed.

Only because he was the admin doing it, and had his admin removed. If he would of looked into you further and not the topic at hand Naked, I'm sure you would of had some repercussion as well. If it were recent times, you would no longer even be here. Yes, old wound, closed, yet leaves a scar, that scar will tarnish you in your entire future history here. You are not clan material, and any clan member that would even think of voting you in would be a fool (Yes, I went there.)

On the other hand, yes, you were a decent admin most of the time and a player I actually enjoyed playing with when you were active.
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