Pokemon Mafia: Gotta Catch'em scum!

[What]

Well we can know from the scene that is sounds like the mafia tried to attack someone anyways and it failed.

Also we can look at those who were hesitant to lynch Taz after it became clear that leaving him alive after his role was revealed would have been a huge liability to the town.

Asides from that we just have to wait and see if anyone dares to reveal if they learned something at night.

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Also, scene seems to confirm 2 mafia

[brett friggin favre]

Smeargle - sketch: reflect a night action?

[What]

I would think like frame wouldn't it? if that is his ability

[Blackmage]

How much do we think was revealed? Is "That's Right!" suggesting Meowth is an enemy? If so, what do we think he'd do. Maybe "godfather" of the evil pokes.

Beyond that, do we think the two voices are related to "meowth"? The first seemed to know what the second could. Him "attacking" the second might be because his target got switched. Seems odd that #1 seemed to know something that #2 did, but #2 attacked him anyway. Also, #2 might have multiple abilities. He did something before meeting #1, then also punched #1.

On smeargle, he could be a tinker/JOAT/fisherman where he gets a variety of roles. Also, deputy or other replacement role. Or could be another feint.

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By related, I mean, do we think meowth is one of the two.

If I'm not clear tonight let me know, one of my brothers got married today, so I'm a little worn out :)

[brett friggin favre]

I would've figured before this that meowth would be a baddie. Obvious choice. Other could be ekans/arbok? just trying to recall the show...

[Wolfenstinger]

Corsola!

[Blackmage]

What I remember: Ekans/Arbok Koffing/Weezing Meowth Likitung Wobbufet Victrebel

and for the other ones I can't remember, from the main rocket Trio, Google sez: Mime Jr. Seviper Woobat Frillish Amoongus Carivine Yamask Yanmega Cacnea Growlithe Chimecho Dustox Magikarp/Gyarados Hoppip Shellder

Also there are a bunch of other pokes they have controlled in one fashion or another over the years. Pokes it could be increase if we include sources other than anime, or more than just our favourite bumbling duo. But given meowth, I'm guessing it's probably in the above list

However, a bunch have been released, including Arbok/Weezing Likitung and Victreebels. Depends on WHEN this adventure takes place.

I also don't gaurrentee spelling on pokes.

Also, is Wolf playing ditto, even if he's not actually. Cause this brings up a point. Don't recall Smeargle being in anyone's team. Are we assuming that we're all actually part of Ash 'n crews pokes?

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As I can't even spell guarantee, I guess I can't do any words in general, not just pokes :/

[SCRIBBLE]

Before we try to guess a timeline, did cyber mention anything about setting?

[Blackmage]

Here's Cyber's first story post:


Tell us a story about your trips in Johto Grampa Ash!!"- screamed the little young-lings gathered around the fireplace with the wrinkly old fool..
- Alright Alright kids! I can't say it's MY story, but let me tell you about a huge moment of my teenage life back when the gang was still... together...

"So I was skinny dipping with your Grandma Misty, when she... "
- ASH!!!!! Not in front of the children!- shouted Misty from the kitchen.
- You never let me have my way you old red-haired hag! Ehhem... What I mean to say was:

" We had decided to leave the Pokemon at Professor Oak's lab for the summer of 2013 so that Misty and I get some alone time...

Little did we know that leaving the Pokemon alone would cause one of the largest headers that ever hit the local newspapers...

With soo many of Ash's enemies lurking and waiting for such an opportunity, it was a matter of time before the lab was completely destroyed...

Johto = Gen 2, summer 2013 = HAHAHA nothing Place = Oak's lab... How many VT tauros are there? :P Anime Johto was the original Trio. However, don't think anyone other than Ash sent pokes to Oak (at that time). Going into which pokes were around then, I can do, but won't unless someone is curious. One poke of note Delia's Mr. Mime. Also, given it's Oak's lab, umpteen bazillion pokes available.

[CYBER]

Here's Cyber's first story post:


Johto = Gen 2, summer 2013 = HAHAHA nothing Place = Oak's lab... How many VT tauros are there? :P Anime Johto was the original Trio. However, don't think anyone other than Ash sent pokes to Oak (at that time). Going into which pokes were around then, I can do, but won't unless someone is curious. One poke of note Delia's Mr. Mime. Also, given it's Oak's lab, umpteen bazillion pokes available.

Before people bite my head off, I wrote this post in a hurry while at work, and I meant to say KANTO. not Johto.

Does it matter? I don't know. Does it affect the game? I don't know. Does it affect the story? I don't know.

Why am I correcting the timeline region name??
Because i feel fucking stupid for wrongfully thinking that Johto was the first generation and completely forgot about Kanto in my story because of typing all that crap in my 10 minutes break.

My childhood ego has been bruised... slightly....

Carry on.

[SCRIBBLE]

I have no idea as to what either of you just said. Great.

[CYBER]

I have no idea as to what either of you just said. Great.

And that's what you get for being abroad and not watching pokemon!
...
you can thank me for those parody videos later btw:P

[Blackmage]

All my pages of notes and theories! RUINED! I HATE YOU DAD!

But more seriously, between movies, and silly things like that, this could be a large number of times. Haven't seen much pokemon in years so if this is something recent (hence 2013) I'd just be quoting google for most things.

Timeline: It's past Bye Bye Butterfree (STOP RELEASING POKEMON YOU MORON /nostalgia). As he's at Oak's lab I don't think he went home till at least after beating Blaine, and since he has his 30 Tauros (ah, banned episodes) we have enough pokes available even at the end of the first season. Basically, no. We don't know WHEN this was.

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Scribble, how much of pokemon do you know? What are you trying to figure out?

...I now want to claim Sylveon and justify it by saying Cyber is writing a fan-fiction with this game. Pokeshipping in the first story post and declaring that pokemon's type. Yes, I now have a plan! Cyber, you're a genius!

[CYBER]

Cyber, you're a genius!

... Not sure if...

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/2269364/crazy-eyes-o.gif

[Blackmage]

Myself, Brett, Blade, Mass, What AND Wolf are "active" on the forums, and almost half the posts in the last hour are Cyber's. Something's wrong in here. Either that, or people are taking their time writing like I am.

Assuming those that posted have nothing to say about Night, we are waiting on confirmation from Mass and Nem, right? Wolf, too, if he has more to say than just random pokemon names.

[brett friggin favre]

Zzz...I'm still at work, in. hour 15 today, I don't brain good.

[What]

Well, based on what I saw day 1 I can toss a theory out there as to who may be a bad guy.

After it was clear that taking out Taz was the best move, for a number of reasons, Blade still insisted we wait to hear from everyone, and he reiterated this several times. This makes little sense since what do we need to hear at that point? The best option was clear.
To me this seemed like a plea for time or plea to someone else, ie another member of the mafia. Someone who hadn't posted yet and someone he hoped might be able to steer the vote somewhere else, but alas no such help came.
That would leave masskid or Scribble as the likely candidates for his partner.
Mass showed up too late to do anything either way, and his playing style just seems different.
Scribble expressed frustration at the vote, though this may have been only due to his misunderstanding of what would happen had Taz been killed at night.
Either way this is just based on what I know from Day 1, but perhaps someone will have some info or insight to push the ideas forward.

[SCRIBBLE]

@blackmage- not much, i am having to look up everything to figure out what is referenced to what and that raises a question are we all pokemon or are there trainers? Poor taz did not even have a chance.

[Nemesis]

Someone got stabbed at work. It was great. Be home in a few.

[What]

Someone got stabbed at work. It was great. Be home in a few.
That what happens when you work at a taco bell i a wallmart.

[Wolfenstinger]

Corrrrrr sola! :icon_mrgreen:

[Nemesis]

That what happens when you work at a taco bell i a wallmart.

Haha, I wish. Then I wouldn't have had to chase these cunts through a corn field.

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I would agree that there are two mafia based off the night story, but does it seem to anyone else that one attacked the other? Like if their attack was reflected?

[What]

Haha, I wish. Then I wouldn't have had to chase these cunts through a corn field.

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I would agree that there are two mafia based off the night story, but does it seem to anyone else that one attacked the other? Like if their attack was reflected?

I was getting the attacked eachother thing, but I was wondering if it was possibly just referring to the fact that no one could die, so instead of a stab it was just a punch, an attack, but non-lethal.

[Nemesis]

I was getting the attacked eachother thing, but I was wondering if it was possibly just referring to the fact that no one could die, so instead of a stab it was just a punch, an attack, but non-lethal.

Right, but it seems like it was teh two guys working together, then one hit the other for some reason.

[brett friggin favre]

Right, but it seems like it was teh two guys working together, then one hit the other for some reason.

Maybe knowing about everyone being bulletproof they wanted to fuck with us. Blade would totally do that.

[Nemesis]

Maybe knowing about everyone being bulletproof they wanted to fuck with us. Blade would totally do that.

I think that's too much of an assumption.

You've gotta assume that the immunity protects all players and not just townies. You have to assume Cyber will be smart enough to include that in the nightly brief. You also have to assume that the hints are picked up on by everyone. Seems like too much to go through, no?

[Nemesis]

Where is Everyone?

[CYBER]

Where is Everyone?normal people sleep between 2am and 6am usually... I guess that is why u and me are the only people asking that same damn question... I dont want to put a deadline but i hope that by today at noon we'd have some conversations starting at least...

[Nemesis]

normal people sleep between 2am and 6am usually... I guess that is why u and me are the only people asking that same damn question... I dont want to put a deadline but i hope that by today at noon we'd have some conversations starting at least...

Usually there's some chat at night. Oh well.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

normally there is nem, by me. Unfortunately for the last 32 hours.. well i cant say but no interwebz. hopefully it does not happen again.

I had my eyebrows raised towards blade for awhile, for the same reasons what described. He is also playing completely different then the last game he played in.

Masskid being as quiet as he is, is a little strange. He would have usually made some silly vote or joke by now. he is either hiding or protecting something. otherwise he is a VT and bored.

i also assume that if there was no cop reveal at this point. there is either 1, no cop or 2. he revealed a townie and feels no need to claim at this point.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Didnt Cyber say at one point that it was only going to be 1st gen pokemon?


"One of the party members had a few questions for the sleepy one who hasn't been contributing much that day."
Who was asking questions and who did not contribute? Perhaps masskid. Perhaps there is a snorlax with a post restriction? aka Sleepy One

"Some recall that one of them put its shades on and started hugging the first person they bumped into in the courtyard, "
Perhaps this entails a doctor who used there prot on a player.


"I hate them! I hate them all! That Butterfree fiasco today screwed up my plans for tonight but I will show them! mmm Yeaaaah, That's Right!..."
Most likely meowth. Meowth was always a proud member of team rocket.

"Did you do it?"
- Oh yeah, most were too caught up in the idiot's karaoke singing to notice me slip by. In fact..."
"Wait, what are u doing???"

I dont necessarily interpret this as mafia. could be that the cop got a successful investigation. Otherwise it could mean that the mafia has a power role that dost proc the night its used, for example poison.

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also, cyber may be trying to fuck with us in regards to the picture he used for the night end scene.

If you take into consideration me and taz being masons and me being bulbasaur, i am now in fact, "alone."

[BladeTwinSwords]

I'm playing differently because I want to.

I am innocent, it's just that revealing who I am would be very detrimental.

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Hint #2: I get pissed when no one listens to me

[Nemesis]

Well, going to bed. We'll continue this tonight.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I'm playing differently because I want to.

I am innocent, it's just that revealing who I am would be very detrimental.

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Hint #2: I get pissed when no one listens to me

so far, you calim to be a uselss pokemon who gets angry when not listened to.

Jigglypuff or meowth.

[Masskid]

Didnt Cyber say at one point that it was only going to be 1st gen pokemon?


"One of the party members had a few questions for the sleepy one who hasn't been contributing much that day."
Who was asking questions and who did not contribute? Perhaps masskid. Perhaps there is a snorlax with a post restriction? aka Sleepy One

"Some recall that one of them put its shades on and started hugging the first person they bumped into in the courtyard, "
Perhaps this entails a doctor who used there prot on a player.


"I hate them! I hate them all! That Butterfree fiasco today screwed up my plans for tonight but I will show them! mmm Yeaaaah, That's Right!..."
Most likely meowth. Meowth was always a proud member of team rocket.

"Did you do it?"
- Oh yeah, most were too caught up in the idiot's karaoke singing to notice me slip by. In fact..."
"Wait, what are u doing???"

I dont necessarily interpret this as mafia. could be that the cop got a successful investigation. Otherwise it could mean that the mafia has a power role that dost proc the night its used, for example poison.

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also, cyber may be trying to fuck with us in regards to the picture he used for the night end scene.

If you take into consideration me and taz being masons and me being bulbasaur, i am now in fact, "alone."

If its 1st gen pokemon... WTF is wolf then?

also on the snorlax, Im gonna have to say its brett since even during the day he has "zzz...(insert words here)"

The reason im not here much is because im on "vaycay" cousin's graduation, Texas instead of Louisiana

from the scene the shades + hug we probably have a squirrtle with protection

(can anyone find me the post where cybi says its only first gen?)

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

so far, you calim to be a uselss pokemon who gets angry when not listened to.

Jigglypuff or meowth.

the only other people who raise my suspicons at this point apart from blade are, what. nem. scribb. and masskid.

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If its 1st gen pokemon... WTF is wolf then?

also on the snorlax, Im gonna have to say its brett since even during the day he has "zzz...(insert words here)"

The reason im not here much is because im on "vaycay" cousin's graduation, Texas instead of Louisiana

from the scene the shades + hug we probably have a squirrtle with protection

(can anyone find me the post where cybi says its only first gen?)

well knowing wolf he may have just claimed a unique pokemon for lolz. Smeargle is a very odd one. also after night wolf possted what a diffrent pokemon would sound like. similar to how i have been saying "bulb bulba bulb"

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here they are



Corsola!


Corrrrrr sola! :icon_mrgreen:

[Masskid]

Didnt Cyber say at one point that it was only going to be 1st gen pokemon?


I'm asking if this part is true. If it is then wolf is claiming non-1st gen pokemon... not what he is claiming he is

[Blackmage]

Given he's gone into Corsala mode, I'm still going with Ditto, which IS gen 1... Or Mew. I don't recall him saying only Gen 1, but given it's Kanto adventures, it's possible. Anyone want to claim gen 2+? Or want to find the "gen 1 only" post?

Well, Squirtle was part of the fire squad. Hopefully he's not a firefighter, or if he is, Mafia doesn't have it's normal kill. Even if that's true, it would make the enemy NOT just team rocket, so I'm sticking with "not firefighter", just protector.

Also, if Blade is Jiggly, we also have our Karaoke master. However, remember Jiggly wasn't actually part of the crew, he might be a third party player. Wasn't a bad guy, but what Jiggly wanted wasn't the same as what anyone else wanted.

As an FYI, once I leave this morning, I'm going to be going silent till the evening.

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Ok, extended family breakfast time, be back tonight.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Given he's gone into Corsala mode, I'm still going with Ditto, which IS gen 1... Or Mew. I don't recall him saying only Gen 1, but given it's Kanto adventures, it's possible. Anyone want to claim gen 2+? Or want to find the "gen 1 only" post?

Well, Squirtle was part of the fire squad. Hopefully he's not a firefighter, or if he is, Mafia doesn't have it's normal kill. Even if that's true, it would make the enemy NOT just team rocket, so I'm sticking with "not firefighter", just protector.

Also, if Blade is Jiggly, we also have our Karaoke master. However, remember Jiggly wasn't actually part of the crew, he might be a third party player. Wasn't a bad guy, but what Jiggly wanted wasn't the same as what anyone else wanted.

As an FYI, once I leave this morning, I'm going to be going silent till the evening.

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Ok, extended family breakfast time, be back tonight.

if it is jigglypuff then i find it hard to believe the tailed poke managed to walk away to go to sleep instead of passing out to the singing. if the karaoke poke is jigglypuff, it has to be prior to jiggly getting its singing mojo back.

Determining what pokemon are involved with this game is all and good, but its still dosnt provide us with who is what. Maybe what abilities may be out there but thats it.

im almost certain the three starters are involved. Myself as bulbasaur, squirttle as doctor, and a charmander (perhaps an arsonist, but unlikely at this point)

[BladeTwinSwords]

Mikey gets 10 points as it is Jigglypuff.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Mikey gets 10 points as it is Jigglypuff.
then it is likely you are third party. With a roleblock? "Uses Sing: puts your target to sleep, disabling all actions for that player that night."

If the story is based off the anime, i say third party because jiggly is only seen in a couple of episodes, not part of the ASH/MISTY/BROCK crew.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

scratch the last post by me, the one above this.

here are the three notable abilities of jigglypuff

Sing: puts enemies to sleep.

Cure Charm: makes enemy infatuated with jiggly.

Friend Guard: Offers protection to an ally.

if blade isnt lying, i dont think he is mafia. He hasnt been one to lie in these games yet.

[BladeTwinSwords]

I have no point in lying. I will not reveal my role though, you will just have to deduce what it is.

[Wolfenstinger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9hKs8FJoug

Where Bublabutt came from.


Corsola!

[SCRIBBLE]

Well I am more confused than ever. Did we establish whether or not there are trainers in this game or are we all pokemon? It is too hard to think, my head is killing me.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Well I am more confused than ever. Did we establish whether or not there are trainers in this game or are we all pokemon? It is too hard to think, my head is killing me. we cant be 100% positive that there isnt trainers in the game but i am almost positive there isnt.

Based off the opening scene text, we can come to the conclusion that we are all pokemon living at professor oaks. The main "trainers" in the real pokemon "dropped us off at oaks, to make naughty anime sex"

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also scribbs, for someone as intelligent as you. Its odd to see you confused....

[Wolfenstinger]

I'm Duplica's Pokemon - I suck at my transformations but I can not say what I am rather I must say what I'm trying to become evey day post. Because these transformations are no success - I will gain no beneficial random role other than the name. How I get these pokemon will be between me and the game master. At night - I feel no pain due to my gelatinous nature.

This is my claim. I'm sticking to it.

Corsola.

[brett friggin favre]

Zzz...snorlax? couldn't be. was he the sleepy one?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Zzz...snorlax? couldn't be. was he the sleepy one?
no he wasnt the sleepy one

he is what blackmage suspected, ditto.

the sleepy one could also be slowpoke. there is no correlation between player and the sleepy one yet.

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it also appears that wolf is claiming to have bullet proof. Duplica is a trainer who specialized in impressions ect. her pokemon in the anime series was a ditto.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

furthermore, in the scene it says that the sleepy one contributed little to the prior day (because they are the sleepy one Derp) Which means masskid and scribs, the least active players during day 1 are likely the sleepyone. Judging by how the scene was written, it is also likely that the karaoke master, sleepyone, tail waver, shades wearer are all town as they either went to sleep or had no part in what transpired later in the evening.

"One of the party members had a few questions for the sleepy one who hasn't been contributing much that day."

This line also indicates the possibility that the cop investigated one of the two. Seeing has how the cop is in a decent position to make a claim on anti-town findings, it is likely that the sleepy one is town aligned.

As it stands, here is all current and possible correlations.

Shades: Squirttle (Unknown
Sleepy-one: Snorlax (masskid or scribbs)
Karaoke Master: Jiggly Puff (Blade)
listner: Unknown, has a tail (Unknown)
Camp fire: Meowth (Unknown)
Not in scene: Bulbasaur (Mikey)
Not in scene: Ditto (Wolf)

that accounts for 7 pokemon total
missing 2....

later in the night, meowth and another meet at a cabin. Meowth being enraged by night misfortune punches his comrade in the face!

Wolf claiming ditto changes alot of things though because he can transform into virtually any pokemon.

[Masskid]

furthermore, in the scene it says that the sleepy one contributed little to the prior day (because they are the sleepy one Derp) Which means masskid and scribs, the least active players during day 1 are likely the sleepyone. Judging by how the scene was written, it is also likely that the karaoke master, sleepyone, tail waver, shades wearer are all town as they either went to sleep or had no part in what transpired later in the evening.

"One of the party members had a few questions for the sleepy one who hasn't been contributing much that day."

This line also indicates the possibility that the cop investigated one of the two. Seeing has how the cop is in a decent position to make a claim on anti-town findings, it is likely that the sleepy one is town aligned.

As it stands, here is all current and possible correlations.

Shades: Squirttle (Unknown
Sleepy-one: Snorlax (masskid or scribbs)
Karaoke Master: Jiggly Puff (Blade)
listner: Unknown, has a tail (Unknown)
Camp fire: Meowth (Unknown)
Not in scene: Bulbasaur (Mikey)
Not in scene: Ditto (Wolf)

that accounts for 7 pokemon total
missing 2....

later in the night, meowth and another meet at a cabin. Meowth being enraged by night misfortune punches his comrade in the face!

Wolf claiming ditto changes alot of things though because he can transform into virtually any pokemon.

.... ya, I must be the snorlax.... not the guy who is putting zzz infront of every single post... :cool:

[brett friggin favre]

Zzz...I'm the snorlax you fucking idiot. Would help explain no cop reveal if i was investigated. Not sure why cyber said I didn't contribute much...unless there's another sleepy one. Plus...it makes sense to investigate me based on my past roles.

[Wolfenstinger]

Gone to zoo; bbl

Corsola!

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Shades: Squirttle (Unknown
Sleepy-one: Snorlax (brett)
Karaoke Master: Jiggly Puff (Blade)
listner: Unknown, has a tail (Unknown)
Camp fire: Meowth (Unknown)
Not in scene: Bulbasaur (Mikey)
Not in scene: Ditto (Wolf)

this is revised, cyber through me off with the contribution part. you contributed more to the day then the other two.
makes alot more sense now with the whole investigation theory.

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why so hostile brett? snorlax is a passive creature! a little oversight near midnight, jeeezzzzz

[brett friggin favre]

Zzz...cuz I worked 16 hrs last night

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Err yesterday

[What]

@Nem: The virgin thing only protects the town from what I've read, so if the mafia targeted itself it should have died, also if that was the case who are the crazy people likely to think of that as an option.
It is possible that there was a vigilante out there who took a swing thinking if they hit mafia, they die, if they dont the other person lives and then they could confirm someone as town.

Also with Blade: He has claimed a shitty Pokemon and I think a shitty ability, yet at the same time wont say his ability, which is fine no need for constant reveals, but his reasoning is that claiming his ability is a detriment, implying that it is actually good, and not a shitty ability.

[brett friggin favre]

Mikey-town
Me-town
Wolf-random skills every day, seems OP for mafia, likely town.
Blade-probably town...right?

9 alive, 4 right there I'm pretty sure are town

[What]

Mikey-town
Me-town
Wolf-random skills every day, seems OP for mafia, likely town.
Blade-probably town...right?

9 alive, 4 right there I'm pretty sure are town

Brett, wolf claims random shit in most of the games he played, doesn't make it true that in this one his skills keep changing.

I am also not sold on Blade, though Scribble has become the more suspicious as of late. He is more involved than usual and seems to only be pretending not to understand whats going on.

[brett friggin favre]

Blade wouldn't claim awesomeness if he had it, doesn't wanna paint a target on his back.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Blade wouldn't claim awesomeness if he had it, doesn't wanna paint a target on his back.

This. I'm not making the same mistake as last time ever again.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

i cant see jiggly puss, snorlax, and ditto being mafia aligned if the mafia is team rocket in this game.
Id also like to note wolfs claim post, if i recall he dosnt say he has different abilities each night but actually the opposite.

lastley, if cyber did abilities per the "pokemon" they were assigned, i layed out 3 critical jiggly puff skills that easily interpret into mafia abilities. All generally being pro town roles.

[brett friggin favre]

blade, if you were to vote for someone right now, who would it be and why?

[SCRIBBLE]

I may not be expressing myself correctly but it just becomes increasingly more difficult with such a bad headache.

[What]

Re-reading the scene, it seems like mafia did infact attack eachother, and that One of them is an ass who thought it would be funny, the other is a straight man who was not amused. That seems to imply that we have two different personalities at play for mafia. This could be useful if we can figure one out.

[BladeTwinSwords]

I have no clue who I would vote for.

[Blackmage]

Just got home, quick post, then looking things over.

brett: I think you missed this part of Wolf's claim. "Because these transformations are no success - I will gain no beneficial random role other than the name."

On the story side of things. We have had no true pokemon that are not gen 1 show up or be claimed. We have had no trainers be claimed. The information in night seems to suggest pokemon in a number of cases, but no trainers.

Also, as Wolf is claiming Duplica's pokemon, and Blade is claiming the wild pokemon, the choices for what pokemon others are is larger.

[brett friggin favre]

Just got home, quick post, then looking things over.

brett: I think you missed this part of Wolf's claim. "Because these transformations are no success - I will gain no beneficial random role other than the name."

On the story side of things. We have had no true pokemon that are not gen 1 show up or be claimed. We have had no trainers be claimed. The information in night seems to suggest pokemon in a number of cases, but no trainers.

Also, as Wolf is claiming Duplica's pokemon, and Blade is claiming the wild pokemon, the choices for what pokemon others are is larger.

yes i did miss that. still not sure if i trust it.

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tops on my list right now are nemesis and scribble. wanna hear more from them.

[Nemesis]

Just woke up. What would you like to know Brett?

I think scribbs is suspicious as he's quiet but just throwing posts out there claiming to be innocent and confused. Seems odd.

[brett friggin favre]

Just woke up. What would you like to know Brett?

I think scribbs is suspicious as he's quiet but just throwing posts out there claiming to be innocent and confused. Seems odd.

that's why he's on my list. i still like how you claimed taz wasn't retarded at the start of the game. just saying that doesn't jive with what i know about you. i wanna know what your thoughts are on other players. me, masskid, scribbs (already given), blade, etc.

[Nemesis]

that's why he's on my list. i still like how you claimed taz wasn't retarded at the start of the game. just saying that doesn't jive with what i know about you. i wanna know what your thoughts are on other players. me, masskid, scribbs (already given), blade, etc.

Ya, as you can see, I totally changed my mind on that when I actually heard him speak.

Brett: Who the fuck can ever trust you, Jesus.

Masskid: Useless. Hasen't said anything useful really, just sits in the wings as if he's waiting for something. That's kind of a mafia play but we'll see.

Wolf: Seems to be trolling, which is annoying.

Blade: Could be third party, and if this is true we should think on that one. Maybe he can block the town from making any actions but they can still get killed? If he is third party that most likely means that its two mafia and him, then 7 of us townies, all agree on that?

Who else is there?

Oh, Mikey: If mikey is mafia he will talk himself into it like he always does.

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Blackmage: Not 100% yet, trying to get a bead.

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What: Seems to be working with town but that's not hard to fake at this point.

[Blackmage]

I for one want to hear from Mass. While he probably is on vacation ATM, doesn't mean he's not just using that as an excuse to not post as much.

On Scribble, I want to know why he's so concerned with the story that he doesn't seem to know much about. Why does he care if anyone is a trainer? Did Cyber give him some strange story related power? I also don't like his talking at night. Modkills aren't a good thing.

Day 1 was a cluster. Mikey and Taz made some dubious plays, that ended up not blowing up in our faces, I guess. We're not going to lose a day to a princess now, and we do have a clear, but we're down a townie. Sadly, they pretty much forced us into the equivalent of a no lynch :/

A, hopefully unneeded, note to Mikey: After today, don't vote unless you have to. Keep the mafia in the dark about if you've stumped yourself or not. As we don't know what if any variants you have on the stump, no reason to give away any more information. Anyone disagree with this plan? It might be a moot point if his stumping visibly changes vote requirements, however, but I'm assuming it's not until proven otherwise.

I assume any investigation didn't reveal a mafia, so we're back to voting based upon assumptions again.

Also, on Gen 1 only, I cannot find the post. I checked this thread, and the start and end of the sign up thread. I still believe it, through empirical evidence, however, I can think of a few allowed exceptions too.

[brett friggin favre]

i agree on the mikey thing. scribb's concern with the story is interesting but then again he always comments on how dumb you guys are. i say "you guys" cuz i've been mafia every game so far...lol. so it makes sense that he'd discredit us, and look for clues in cyber's story especially when we KNOW cyber talks too damn much and always ends up saying something he wasn't supposed to.

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keep in mind, in every game scribb's been hounded for being shady as fuck. how often has he actually ended up being mafia?

[SCRIBBLE]

Can I answer any questions? It is hard to anything with this constant headache but I will try my best.

[What]

keep in mind, in every game scribb's been hounded for being shady as fuck. how often has he actually ended up being mafia?

He was mafia in the very first game, but in all games he doesnt seem to say much, now he is saying things, but they dont seem to jive with how he normally acts.
Mass is also acting very different than before in any game, also as far as people who would get a laugh at attacking another mafia for shits and giggles, that would either be mass or wolf, and if Brett feels that wolf's random poke choices vindicate him, then mass would be a viable choice.

[brett friggin favre]

zzz...scribb gets buttfucked while being town in several games, changes his behaviors...and this is alarming? he's a clever dude, and i don't wanna make the mistake of getting rid of him if he's not mafia. some of you guys are significantly more expendable. he may well be playing differently because he's aligned differently, but i seem to doubt it this time.

though i do know as mafia i always loved seeing him make an early exit. pushing for that is suspect in itself. just saying, you know i have to.

scribb, what are your thoughts on What, and how would you play today and tonight if you were mafia?

[What]

Its not entirely alarming, I have only been pointing it out, if you couldn't tell, I have been pushing far more for mass than for scribb, as I have always provided qualifiers on my comments with Scribb.

[Blackmage]

Scrib, Why are you so interested in the story? Does it matter if Trainers are in the game? For all we know Cyber made one of us the Wizard of Oz, but what does it matter?

While I might have thought it was trying to dig for clues, you seem abnormally lost.

On Mass, it reminds me of the WCS game. He was there, but not doing much. Including doing his night actions. However, while he was an enemy, he was also legitimately replaced.

[What]

Scrib, Why are you so interested in the story? Does it matter if Trainers are in the game? For all we know Cyber made one of us the Wizard of Oz, but what does it matter?

While I might have thought it was trying to dig for clues, you seem abnormally lost.

On Mass, it reminds me of the WCS game. He was there, but not doing much. Including doing his night actions. However, while he was an enemy, he was also legitimately replaced.

Actually in WCS he was very random doing votes for people and then changing them, then he went quiet cause he had stuff he needed to do and was replaced. In the last game he was all over the place and being a douche to get killed.
Now this time he is playing it close to the vest, if he gets replaced then its the same as WCS, but as for now its very different since he is still actively playing.

[Nemesis]

Mass is online and has been, yet he doesn't say anything. Wtf mate?

[Masskid]

Mass is online and has been, yet he doesn't say anything. Wtf mate?
Been trying for the last 30 min fucking Arlington sprint network is shifty and won't let me post

[brett friggin favre]

Been trying for the last 30 min fucking Arlington sprint network is shifty and won't let me post

I can actually vouch for that...

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Sprint in arlington is garbage

[Masskid]

Ok Dave and busters, brb in awhile

[Nemesis]

Ok Dave and busters, brb in awhile

Way to clear your name, fatty.

[brett friggin favre]

Way to clear your name, fatty.

yeah that was kinda.....hmm...

[Nemesis]

yeah that was kinda.....hmm...

"Oh, the internet is bad" "Oh now I'm going out."

Does everyone remember when Brett did that? Covered for Carm never being there, because they were mafia? ya.

[BladeTwinSwords]

So what are we going to do? We basically lost an innocent and learned nothing other than Mikey is innocent.

[brett friggin favre]

"Oh, the internet is bad" "Oh now I'm going out."

Does everyone remember when Brett did that? Covered for Carm never being there, because they were mafia? ya.

lol i can't believe we won that shit...

[What]

Well I don't trust mass, the way he is playing and again, that attack on another mafia for shits and giggles fits either him or wolf who said he wasn't gonna take this serious.
Now if people think Wolf is in the clear for whatever reason, then that leaves Mass as a viable suspect in that instance.

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Whats bugging me is that people have to have roles that provided something to them last night.
Look at how many layers were on Taz, Mason, Virgin princess if lynched, beloved princess if killed at night.
While I understand no one wants to claim and make themselves an obvious target, people have to have some inklings they can share.

[Nemesis]

Well I don't trust mass, the way he is playing and again, that attack on another mafia for shits and giggles fits either him or wolf who said he wasn't gonna take this serious.
Now if people think Wolf is in the clear for whatever reason, then that leaves Mass as a viable suspect in that instance.

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Whats bugging me is that people have to have roles that provided something to them last night.
Look at how many layers were on Taz, Mason, Virgin princess if lynched, beloved princess if killed at night.
While I understand no one wants to claim and make themselves an obvious target, people have to have some inklings they can share.

I'm not sure if Wolf is clear. Stating before the game starts that you're "not taking it seriously" is a great way to preemptively take some heat off of you in case you get a mafia role. If you get something else you could always just talk more.

Is there a chance that the town, while being invisible, was also roleblocked?

[Blackmage]

Well, one thing the cop may be doing, if he found a townie, is instead of declaring it, instead pushing harder on other players. Or he might be wary of how reliable his information is. If he only is "cop", he might be wary that he has some hidden modifiers. Taz had 2 good and 1 bad portion. Mikey has 1 good and one iffy ability, that we know of.

On wolf, Brett thought that a version of Wolf that doesn't exist was townie. Beyond that, most people don't seem to be thinking we don't know what he is.

As for roleblocking, it sounded like Doctor Squirtle worked. Blade, any idea if what you did worked?

[Masskid]

Been trying for the last 30 min fucking Arlington sprint network is shifty and won't let me post


Well I don't trust mass, the way he is playing and again, that attack on another mafia for shits and giggles fits either him or wolf who said he wasn't gonna take this serious.
Now if people think Wolf is in the clear for whatever reason, then that leaves Mass as a viable suspect in that instance.

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Whats bugging me is that people have to have roles that provided something to them last night.
Look at how many layers were on Taz, Mason, Virgin princess if lynched, beloved princess if killed at night.
While I understand no one wants to claim and make themselves an obvious target, people have to have some inklings they can share.
Funny thing is this time I'm not even playing around... he literally started the day before I went out of town. I wasn't planning on doing much but that changed -.-

My pokemon enjoys hugs :cool:

[SCRIBBLE]

scribb, what are your thoughts on What, and how would you play today and tonight if you were mafia?
What is an enigma at this point as he has not revealed anything including no mention or hint that he was town centered but he has done this in previous games as well. If mafia I would try bring focus on one or two people and try and get everyone to follow suit and at night I would probably pick off blade or wolf under the assumption that they have unique abilities.


Scrib, Why are you so interested in the story? Does it matter if Trainers are in the game? For all we know Cyber made one of us the Wizard of Oz, but what does it matter?

While I might have thought it was trying to dig for clues, you seem abnormally lost.
I do not know much about pokemon but from what I have read, pokemon are either a captive of a "trainer" or a wild pokemon. I wanted to know if that was a part of the story because everyone seems so concerned about what each pokemon's ability is and how that influences the mafia abilities.

--
It is very difficult to think with this headache :headache: and all I want to do is stay still.

[Nemesis]

Funny thing is this time I'm not even playing around... he literally started the day before I went out of town. I wasn't planning on doing much but that changed -.-

My pokemon enjoys hugs :cool:

Did...did you just admit to being the doctor? Without a cop declared? On the second day?

[brett friggin favre]

Did...did you just admit to being the doctor? Without a cop declared? On the second day?

note the 2 posts where he used the emote with the shades. was gonna mention that.

either not as subtle as he thinks, or hoping nobody called it out and therefore keeping attention from mafia off of him, or trying to claim a role that guarantees him protection from lynching.

i'm guessing you're thinking the third.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

lol @ masskids clue.

Also. thats the third time now scribbs has mentioned a headache. it is now completely obvious that scribbs is psyduck.

[Nemesis]

note the 2 posts where he used the emote with the shades. was gonna mention that.

either not as subtle as he thinks, or hoping nobody called it out and therefore keeping attention from mafia off of him, or trying to claim a role that guarantees him protection from lynching.

i'm guessing you're thinking the third.

Not getting lynched is fine but it's the second day when you're gonna get butt fucked at night and now the cop can't announce anything until he has everyone investigated or risk also receiving shit being pushed.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

if no buddy is lying, that leaves what nem and blackmage. as possible mafia, based off proper pokemon for the job.

[What]

Funny thing is this time I'm not even playing around... he literally started the day before I went out of town. I wasn't planning on doing much but that changed -.-

My pokemon enjoys hugs :cool:

enjoys hugs?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

cop, investigate what.

[What]

if no buddy is lying, that leaves what nem and blackmage. as possible mafia, based off proper pokemon for the job.

If no one is lying, you're an idiot. Fine, I am with the town. Then by your logic I'm cleared. Fuck face.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

If no one is lying, you're an idiot. Fine, I am with the town. Then by your logic I'm cleared. Fuck face. that totally went over your head. Everyone is suspect, its just you who sorely sticks out among the rest. nobody has given me reason to suspect them as much as you have at this point. Being that you are so suave, it will be difficult to persuade the rest otherwise without a cop investigation or making them read back to day 1 at how you, at the snap of a finger gave up pointing fingers at everyone and hammer lynched taz.

[brett friggin favre]

Psyduck...hmm...

gotta say i missed that entirely. i don't like that. scribb i hate to do this to ya but care to 'splain?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

psyduck is the only pokemon i can think of who always has a headache. Scribbs been hinting at it this whole entire time. ill take my 10 points again.

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also, in the series. Psyduck is a problem child but still misty's pokemon. making psyduck part of the crew.

[Nemesis]

psyduck is the only pokemon i can think of who always has a headache. Scribbs been hinting at it this whole entire time. ill take my 10 points again.

I haven't watched Pokemon in 15 years...WHERE THE FUCK DO THE TREES FIT IN!?!

[SCRIBBLE]

10 points to mikey.

@brett... just playing the part of the character from the show i was given based off what i read here: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Psyduck_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29

did not think it would hurt to drop hints

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

id also like to note that nem suggested that the only confirmed townie at this point was mafia?
...

Nem and what for mafia 2013

[What]

that totally went over your head. Everyone is suspect, its just you who sorely sticks out among the rest. nobody has given me reason to suspect them as much as you have at this point. Being that you are so suave, it will be difficult to persuade the rest otherwise without a cop investigation or making them read back to day 1 at how you, at the snap of a finger gave up pointing fingers at everyone and hammer lynched taz.

I dont think i was the hammer, and taz was the only logical vote, tell me how not lynching him would in anyway have helped the town. It would have handcuffed teh doctor and potentially cost us a day.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I haven't watched Pokemon in 15 years...WHERE THE FUCK DO THE TREES FIT IN!?!

if i recal correctly there is actually an episode where bulbasuar and trees play an importent role in ash's capture of bulbasaur.

[CYBER]

It was the perfect time to cause chaos, to cause confusion, to take out someone closing in on the truth.

People were talking, everyone was being loud.

Loud enough that it covered the source of a sneak attack that came out of no-where.

One of the members has been sniped by a jet of lethal stings.

Luckily, the attack hit the tree next to its target instead, and no one got killed.


Resume day 2.

[Nemesis]

id also like to note that nem suggested that the only confirmed townie at this point was mafia?
...

Nem and what for mafia 2013

When did I do that? Also, I'll vote what right now. I don't know what he is.

Also, I ask when because I honestly don't remember doing it...

[What]

and mikey you went about claiming in the worst possible way and have yet to demonstrate an understanding of logic or sense so I can't help but feel sad for your inability to piece things together.

[Nemesis]

Resume day 2.

Jesus, what the fuck?

[What]

Fuck nem, I'll vote his fat ass now too.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I dont think i was the hammer, and taz was the only logical vote, tell me how not lynching him would in anyway have helped the town. It would have handcuffed teh doctor and potentially cost us a day.

im not saying it was the wrong choice, im saying you fought it at first then completely flopped and went for it.
at this point my two votes are for you and nem.

[brett friggin favre]

psyduck is the only pokemon i can think of who always has a headache. Scribbs been hinting at it this whole entire time. ill take my 10 points again.

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also, in the series. Psyduck is a problem child but still misty's pokemon. making psyduck part of the crew.

zzz...i keep forgetting that but what's the point cuz you guys already know what i am.

anywho you're absolutely right. and while i'm tempted to say that should ease our feelings towards him...i also gotta say this. cyber having post restrictions, such as headaches, zzz's, wolf essentially announcing his pokemon every day, masskid using the sunglasses emote (?) and having those pokemon align with their show/anime counterparts makes absolutely no sense. such a post restriction obviously gives away who a player is at some point in the game, as we're seeing now. and obviously their alignment, if we assume classical alignments, are clearly revealed. that makes the game wayyy too easy for town. maybe if 1 or 2 had such restrictions it wouldn't be so disconcerting but 4? should we do away with any studying on those classical alignments?

[What]

Resume day 2.

wHAT, THE FUCK

[Nemesis]

Fuck nem, I'll vote his fat ass now too.

Thanks cupcake.

[brett friggin favre]

zzz...just saw cyber's post. beedrill. vig or mafia?

[Nemesis]

zzz...just saw cyber's post. beedrill. vig or mafia?

Someone has daykill. Either they have only so many shots, it only has a % chance of working, or there's someone who can't be shot.

[What]

I would like to think mafia cant attack during the day.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

the day scene explains the night scene with the two mafia. Obviously the can day kill?

[Nemesis]

the day scene explains the night scene with the two mafia. Obviously the can day kill?

No, I can't see them getting two kills a day. Plus if it was mafia why not target the guy who just said he was the doc?

I think it's someone who has a % based day kill. or an x-shot % day kill.

[SCRIBBLE]

off topic: they are really not subtle about naming these pokemon. brett mentioned a beedrill which i had to look up: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Beedrill_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29

:lmao:

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

No, I can't see them getting two kills a day. Plus if it was mafia why not target the guy who just said he was the doc?

I think it's someone who has a % based day kill. or an x-shot % day kill.

you are most likely right or maybe he can aim 100%, hitting the only tree i know.

[brett friggin favre]

1 shot ability i'll bet, most likely not mafia...however his target seems bulletproof, but does bulletproof work during the day? if not, how else did he live?

[Nemesis]

off topic: they are really not subtle about naming these pokemon. brett mentioned a beedrill which i had to look up: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Beedrill_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29

:lmao:

They're Asians. They have to come right out and tell you everything. That's why anime is so poorly writter, because every character has to tell you, in excruciating detail, what they think about EVERYTHING.

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you are most likely right or maybe he can aim 100%, hitting the only tree i know.

Oh! Never thought about that. Are...are you a tree?

[SCRIBBLE]

maybe a doctor modifier that allows the protection to last through the next day?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

lol its the only pokemon who shots stingers out of his pee pee looking stingy thing. Brett gets 10 points o.o

[SCRIBBLE]

mikey did you stump up or is the tree just a random part of the story?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

or they targeted wolf, wolf did suggest he was bullet proof.

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i can only stump at night.

[brett friggin favre]

if we can determine who was targeted, we may be able to determine beedrill's alignment. if we can do that, we can either clear or condemn him. this is huge.

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p.s. mikey, taz said you're bulletproof too.

[Nemesis]

Ok, Mikey, there's one thing that really confuses me. The definition of your role that you give is extremely different than the one provided on the mafia wiki. As in, it's got the same name but you're saying it worked totally different than it's suppose to. The fuck, mate?

[SCRIBBLE]

well did you stump up last night?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

taz is a retard, he meant to say i can not die. i can not die when i am a tree stump and i have not stumped yet. it would be stupid to stump on the night we all get a freebie. it could not have been me. More then likely wolf, if anybody.

[Nemesis]

Ok, Mikey, there's one thing that really confuses me. The definition of your role that you give is extremely different than the one provided on the mafia wiki. As in, it's got the same name but you're saying it worked totally different than it's suppose to. The fuck, mate?

This is what it says he should be able to ahve happen:

A Tree Stump is a player who has lost all of their abilities as a player except that of being able to post. In essence, they are a dead player who can still post in the game thread. Any Night Actions that player may have had before becoming "stumped" are removed. As Tree Stumps cannot vote, they are not counted as living players for any purpose.

Exactly how one becomes a Tree Stump varies from game to game and role to role. Some examples:

A player may, as part of their role, declare themselves to be a Tree Stump inthread.
Instead of a normal kill, a killing role may instead turn players to Tree Stumps instead.

It is, of course, possible to kill a player before they declare themselves a Stump.

The ability to turn oneself into a Tree Stump is generally given to pro-Town players, especially if a person becomes stumped after a death-like flip so their alignment is known. Mafia-aligned Tree Stumps (or other nonparticipating roles) will sometimes continue to try to actively manipulate the Town, but most will simply not bother to post (especially if their alignment is known).

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

This is what it says he should be able to ahve happen:

A Tree Stump is a player who has lost all of their abilities as a player except that of being able to post. In essence, they are a dead player who can still post in the game thread. Any Night Actions that player may have had before becoming "stumped" are removed. As Tree Stumps cannot vote, they are not counted as living players for any purpose.

Exactly how one becomes a Tree Stump varies from game to game and role to role. Some examples:

A player may, as part of their role, declare themselves to be a Tree Stump inthread.
Instead of a normal kill, a killing role may instead turn players to Tree Stumps instead.

It is, of course, possible to kill a player before they declare themselves a Stump.

The ability to turn oneself into a Tree Stump is generally given to pro-Town players, especially if a person becomes stumped after a death-like flip so their alignment is known. Mafia-aligned Tree Stumps (or other nonparticipating roles) will sometimes continue to try to actively manipulate the Town, but most will simply not bother to post (especially if their alignment is known).

your point?

Id also like to ask nem why he does not seem like all his wit and heart are into tracking down mafia.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Blackmage, what do you mean by if what I did worked?

Also WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED.

I guess we may have a Vigilante.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

i also wonder why nem is questioning the only 100% confirmed townie.

[brett friggin favre]

re-reading the scene, there's no indication that the 2nd mafia is beedrill. i'd hope for some sort of tell on that.

beedrill is almost surely town-aligned or 3rd party. and likely dumb to use that skill so early...which makes me wonder if he is town.

keep this in mind: the drunk one punched meowth. beedrill doesn't punch. jigglypuff...however...does have POUND

[Nemesis]

your point?

Id also like to ask nem why he does not seem like all his wit and heart are into tracking down mafia.

Because I've asked you this question six times and you refuse to answer me. Although I do agree with you on one thing.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

i also wonder why nem is questioning the only 100% confirmed townie. blade he is wondering if your night ability worked.

[Blackmage]

I'll be back, but wanted to point this out. Pokemon's Tree: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sudowoodo

[Nemesis]

I'll be back, but wanted to point this out. Pokemon's Tree: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sudowoodo

How the fuck is that a rock pokemon? It's a fucking tree.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

brett, it is more likley a machop or some shit lmao. also it is possible beedrill targeted a mafia member, i.e. godfather, procing a bulletproof.

[Nemesis]

i also wonder why nem is questioning the only 100% confirmed townie.

Because either you don't understand your role and you're gonna get your ass kicked. Or you're lying for some reason. Or Cyber is a cunt.

Want to guess where I'm leaning?

[brett friggin favre]

brett, it is more likley a machop or some shit lmao. also it is possible beedrill targeted a mafia member, i.e. godfather, procing a bulletproof.

yeah that's what i was thinking. probably what happened which is why if we can get beedrill to reveal himself and say who he targeted...bingo.

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could well be machop but i'm just thinking with what we have. and how blade's played very tight and let us run with our imaginations as to his role.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Because either you don't understand your role and you're gonna get your ass kicked. Or you're lying for some reason. Or Cyber is a cunt.

Want to guess where I'm leaning?

cyber is a cunt?

lol like i have said, i proc tree stump at night. your definition of my ability says there are several ways it is implemented and does not cover them all.

[Nemesis]

cyber is a cunt?

lol like i have said, i proc tree stump at night. your definition of my ability says there are several ways it is implemented and does not cover them all.

okie dokie.

[SCRIBBLE]

it would be nice to have input from those who are currently "busy" (wolf, mass).

[brett friggin favre]

or from beedrill...

[Nemesis]

or from beedrill...

unless they're evil. Then I doubt you'll be getting anything. Which I guess is a tell in itself, isn't it? If we don't get anything then we can assume Beedrill is evil in some way?

[brett friggin favre]

unless they're evil. Then I doubt you'll be getting anything. Which I guess is a tell in itself, isn't it? If we don't get anything then we can assume Beedrill is evil in some way?

yes.....

[What]

So, what can we glean from the scene then?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

well im off to work, not sure if the wifi is back up there or not. So i may not be posting for awhile. In the mean time, watch out for nem and what.

[Nemesis]

So since I remember nothing about Pokemon, I have to look this shit up.

On Bulbapedia(gayest wiki name ever) it was that Beedrill was given away by Ash, for who know the fuck why. Could we assume that Beedrill would be angry at Ash's(town) and therefor be scum?

[Blackmage]

Well, another question is, do we have someone who is bulletproof or redirects things who is participating? While Ditto is bulletproof (he claims) he's not close to anything that I can tell. Perhaps Squirtle continues protecting post night.

Given this person was trying "to cause chaos, to cause confusion, to take out someone closing in on the truth." I doubt they are town aligned. However, if they are, please speak up as to who you shot. They were getting close to something, we need to figure out what. We will have to figure out WHY you were doing those first two.

I'm guessing two things. First: This wasn't set up last night. Sounds like a moment of passion and opportunity. It could have been the plan to wait for the heated discussion to continue, but doesn't sound like something someone had "done". Second: Shooter isn't town aligned, and someone has suggested something true about them.

Also, Beedrill have been "bad guys" a good number of times. They have been known to attack Team Rocket as well, but not nearly as often.

[What]

Honestly, based on how long it takes cyber to write these scenes, is that we need to look back further in the convo to know when this is referring to. And the only thing that occurs before it, is me talking about blade and puting scrib or mass as his possible conspirators, now I dont think i was dead on in this since someone dieing as a result of this convo if it was the mafia doing the day kill, would be done in order to provide more confusion. So I think I must have been wrong about something, but the mafia wanted to reinforce that I was on to something so that we would take out a towny. So we need to use that to work on the possible suspects, and with that in mind I have some people that need to be looked at.

[Nemesis]

Honestly, based on how long it takes cyber to write these scenes, is that we need to look back further in the convo to know when this is referring to. And the only thing that occurs before it, is me talking about blade and puting scrib or mass as his possible conspirators, now I dont think i was dead on in this since someone dieing as a result of this convo if it was the mafia doing the day kill, would be done in order to provide more confusion. So I think I must have been wrong about something, but the mafia wanted to reinforce that I was on to something so that we would take out a towny. So we need to use that to work on the possible suspects, and with that in mind I have some people that need to be looked at.

Such as?

[What]

Well with the pressure on me I don't know if it behooves me to speak my mind, but here we go.

Nem: I don't trust him as far as I can throw him, but as of now, no reason to suspect him.

Brett: He is talking more, no reason to think he is mafia yet again

Scrib: He is acting different, may be due to him trying to not get lynched for once, so for now no reason to suspect him

Blade: Acting weird, and kind of different, don't trust him, possible mafai

Wolf: Not here much, could be mafia, acting like an ass claiming a bunch of different names ,possible mafia, but unsure

Mass: Completely different gameplay from previous times, also the type of guy who would find it funny to attack a fellow mafia, though someone not taking the game serious fits this bill.

Blackmage: My number 1 suspect. Who would think of him? He has only been town thus far. He also is known for text blocks analyzing gameplay, which have been absent in this game. Also, he wanted to dismiss masskid as a suspect and continue to grill Scribble, which to me was a giant fucking red flag. As far as the story goes, one guy finding it funny to attack mafia, another being angry at the stupidity, I think a mass/black combo fits that bill.

I am not saying i am 100% correct, but based on what I have seen and how people have acted that is what I Have so far.

[Nemesis]

Well with the pressure on me I don't know if it behooves me to speak my mind, but here we go.

Nem: I don't trust him as far as I can throw him, but as of now, no reason to suspect him.

Brett: He is talking more, no reason to think he is mafia yet again

Scrib: He is acting different, may be due to him trying to not get lynched for once, so for now no reason to suspect him

Blade: Acting weird, and kind of different, don't trust him, possible mafai

Wolf: Not here much, could be mafia, acting like an ass claiming a bunch of different names ,possible mafia, but unsure

Mass: Completely different gameplay from previous times, also the type of guy who would find it funny to attack a fellow mafia, though someone not taking the game serious fits this bill.

Blackmage: My number 1 suspect. Who would think of him? He has only been town thus far. He also is known for text blocks analyzing gameplay, which have been absent in this game. Also, he wanted to dismiss masskid as a suspect and continue to grill Scribble, which to me was a giant fucking red flag. As far as the story goes, one guy finding it funny to attack mafia, another being angry at the stupidity, I think a mass/black combo fits that bill.

I am not saying i am 100% correct, but based on what I have seen and how people have acted that is what I Have so far.

I think we need to come to a consensus somewhat soon. I agree with you somewhat on Blackmage, but he does have some points on scribble. I'm also hesitant to agree with you too much, because of yesterday, it sends the wrong picture.

[SCRIBBLE]

I would stop playing IBIS mafia games entirely if Brett ends up being mafia again...

[brett friggin favre]

I would stop playing IBIS mafia games entirely if Brett ends up being mafia again...

good to know i'll see you again buddy.

[What]

I would stop playing IBIS mafia games entirely if Brett ends up being mafia again...

Ok, so for shits and giggles lets rule out Brett and Mikey,
Then for anyone who knows they are town that brings the number of known town to 3, so there are 6 people to choose from, so a 1/3 chance of hitting mafia, which aint bad if we use our heads.

[SCRIBBLE]

So myself, nemesis, masskid, wolf, blackmage, and what are the ones under scrutiny.

[Nemesis]

Ok, so for shits and giggles lets rule out Brett and Mikey,
Then for anyone who knows they are town that brings the number of known town to 3, so there are 6 people to choose from, so a 1/3 chance of hitting mafia, which aint bad if we use our heads.

Alright, Well do we nominate Wolf or Mass? Both of which are shady and haven't really contributed anything. Unless your Blackmage feelings are stronger.

[What]

I feel a mass nomination, if it turns mafia, immediately indites Blackmage and vica versa.
A wolf nomination, if turns mafia, vindicate blackmage to some extent, and I feel Mass 100% since the story doesnt allow for 2 people to be doing things for shits and giggles.

[Nemesis]

I feel a mass nomination, if it turns mafia, immediately indites Blackmage and vica versa.
A wolf nomination, if turns mafia, vindicate blackmage to some extent, and I feel Mass 100% since the story doesnt allow for 2 people to be doing things for shits and giggles.

Scribb, what do you think?
I guess Brett too, thoughts?

[brett friggin favre]

zzz...i'm more inclined to believe masskid. too obvious with the hugs comment but the sunglasses emote was clever. an obvious fakeclaim, but it IS obvious that we have a squirtle...and nobody else has stepped up to claim that poke. if someone else did claim to be squirtle we'd have a conundrum to deal with...one of them would certainly be mafia. if mass wasn't squirtle, the real one would step up and try to get him lynched for sure. also we can be sure squirtle's town. i mean come on...squirtle. squirt squirtle.

[SCRIBBLE]

Considering I have seen masskid and wolf lurking the forums without saying anything in rebuttal raises a red flag for me. I believe at the least the cop should pay attention to one or the other tonight.

[Nemesis]

zzz...i'm more inclined to believe masskid. too obvious with the hugs comment but the sunglasses emote was clever. an obvious fakeclaim, but it IS obvious that we have a squirtle...and nobody else has stepped up to claim that poke. if someone else did claim to be squirtle we'd have a conundrum to deal with...one of them would certainly be mafia. if mass wasn't squirtle, the real one would step up and try to get him lynched for sure. also we can be sure squirtle's town. i mean come on...squirtle. squirt squirtle.

Unless it is the doc, then you screw yourself by claiming as you'll either be lynched or killed tat night by mafia. we can't get a counter claim as it's lose-lose for the doc.

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Considering I have seen masskid and wolf lurking the forums without saying anything in rebuttal raises a red flag for me. I believe at the least the cop should pay attention to one or the other tonight.

Whichever one is left I'd say.

[SCRIBBLE]

Blackmage has been responding but has not dropped any clues as to what role or affiliation they are just like nem and what.

[Nemesis]

Blackmage has been responding but has not dropped any clues as to what role or affiliation they are just like nem and what.

"Look at me! I'm a Pokemon!"

That help?

[brett friggin favre]

masskid said he's in arlington. on a sprint phone. i've been in arlington on a sprint phone and you cannot reliably browse the interwebz. he's on vacation too.

if i was the doc and someone claimed it, i'd jump all over that and gladly risk giving myself up at night. 1 townie for 1 mafia is a good tradeoff every damn time.

[Nemesis]

masskid said he's in arlington. on a sprint phone. i've been in arlington on a sprint phone and you cannot reliably browse the interwebz. he's on vacation too.

if i was the doc and someone claimed it, i'd jump all over that and gladly risk giving myself up at night. 1 townie for 1 mafia is a good tradeoff every damn time.

how can I fucking trust you? This is the same shit you pulled with Carm. Fuck you Brett...

[What]

Brett defended carm cause she has that sweet, sweet moistness he needs. I don't get the same feeling from him defending mass.

[BladeTwinSwords]

So are we coming to a decision? We don't even have any votes yet.

[Nemesis]

So are we coming to a decision? We don't even have any votes yet.

start it off?

[brett friggin favre]

i'll start it if you guys don't mind, but i'm undecided. between blackmage and What...talk it out.

[Nemesis]

i'll start it if you guys don't mind, but i'm undecided. between blackmage and What...talk it out.

Oh God I don't want ot read Black's three miles of txt...

[brett friggin favre]

Oh God I don't want ot read Black's three miles of txt...

strange that we haven't had to just yet.

[What]

If you feel its between BM and me, then you must also have suspicions about masskid, since I already laid out, if either comes up mafia, its likely the other is as well.

[Blackmage]

Remember, you asked for this :) Seriously though, this is not because I'm trying to prove "I still do this". This just took more words to reply to. You're the first to really ask questions of me.

What:

On Mass, you disagreed with me, and also seem to have misunderstood what I was saying. I disagree with your assessment of his play style. He played similar to this that entire game (wcs). Yes his voting pattern has changed, but if he's a double voter, or has a vote restriction, there may be a reason for that. In wcs he was here in name only, and active at night. Yes, he posted, but said nothing of importance. What has he said of use this game? He's softclaimed. He's still said nothing, I'm still suspicious of him, until he says something of use. I was just saying, he may need replaced as well. Last time, part of the reason he was silent seems to have been lack of ability to play. I did not suggest he was clear, just that he has played similar to this before, and was replaced that time. I'm still suspicious of him, as he's done nothing to remedy the situation. Was I supposed to restate this?

Scribble, on the other hand, asked for questions. I just restated the questions he ignored before that. He has been playing oddly, talking at night. Yes, I started grilling him, but he was the one available that I had questions for, Mass was not.

Onto why I'm usually making shorter posts. Look at the wcs game. How often did people straight up ignore my posts because of length? Look at this game. My longer posts often have things ignored. Almost 100 posts later, and no one other than Brett even mentioned my thing about Mikey. I like making long posts, and still do. However, when I want to be listened to by the plebeians, I make more concise posts. On a related note, I was writing shorter in the Roman game. I'm also the only one whose gameplay you wrote about in that game. I find it odd that you choose to ignore this.

However, on the straight man/funny man, and being annoyed at being shot at by a teammate, I can't refute that. It wouldn't impress me much.

Brett:

More on Mass, as it's a softclaim, and he hasn't replied since then, if we have another squirtle, he could be waiting for a hardclaim. As it is, if the other claimed right now, Mass could easily say, "No, I was just messing with you". Not saying this is true, Mass could just as easily BE our Squirtle, but I'm wary of soft claiming.

For scribble:
Affiliation: Take a guess. Without some kind of proof, or odd game, would anyone really claim a non-town ? I have a role. Giving out what your role is less than helpful. It can even be dangerous. Just look, we had to lynch Taz because we knew his role. Declaring PGO or Bomb ruins their effectiveness. There has to be a good reason why you give out your role. Curiosity is NOT a good reason.

Blade:

The problem with voting is probably, no one wants to be Judas if we hit a townie. I wish we had someone who I could trust as our clear.

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Oh God I don't want ot read Black's three miles of txt...

I rest my case :)

Also, making shorter posts means I can get them out, and not have to worry about people making 18 posts from the time I start...

[What]

Mikey is in the clear.
I feel Brett is in the clear cause eventually he has to not be mafia.
You are still defending Mass's play style and trying to get us to focus on Scribble, could be an honest assessment of the game, could be something else.
Are you willing to stake your life on Scrib being Mafia, cause if he isn't you defending mass is a very big problem.

[SCRIBBLE]

I was not igoring any questions I only missed them between all the other posts on my phone.

Regarding the affiliation statement I made: it was not meant to pass blame on any three of you, I was only declaring what I noticed.

[brett friggin favre]

hmm.

What, i've decided based off your pursuit of masskid that i'll vote for you. this is your chance to state your claim, or accept my vote for you and hope the others don't follow.

[Blackmage]

I'm still suspicious of him, as he's done nothing to remedy the situation. Was I supposed to restate this?

I... Wha... I'm almost suspicious of you, because you're willingly ignoring what I'm saying. Has he played similar before? Yes. What role was he when he played that game? Scum. What are you talking about defending it?

Only reason I haven't voted on him is the lack of counter claim for Squirtle. When he gets back, either he hard claims Squirtle or doesn't. If he doesn't I'll vote on him. If he does, and doesn't get counterclaimed, then I'll trust him.

Would I stake my life on Scribble being Scum? Nope. If I was that sure, I'd have voted for him already.

Scribble: That was part of my point actually. When I make longer posts, things I say are more likely to be missed, or skimmed over.

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*Cough* Pretend I quoted this part too *cough*


You are still defending Mass's play style and trying to get us to focus on Scribble, could be an honest assessment of the game, could be something else.
Are you willing to stake your life on Scrib being Mafia, cause if he isn't you defending mass is a very big problem.

[What]

Can't see why its between us.
i'm Obviously going to say I am town, but I'm not sure if its going to mean anything at this point.
Perhaps the reasons that I laid out for blackmage are enough to persuade you?

[BladeTwinSwords]

I sincerely doubt Cyber will pull a Judas since it is very bastard.

I really don't know who to vote for.

[brett friggin favre]

Can't see why its between us.
i'm Obviously going to say I am town, but I'm not sure if its going to mean anything at this point.
Perhaps the reasons that I laid out for blackmage are enough to persuade you?

i mean beyond alignment. how about this, i don't even need your role, just what pokemon you are.

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if you're something that could be important, mass should protect you. if he doesn't and you die, then mass isn't protector squirtle and is most likely mafia.

[What]

i mean beyond alignment. how about this, i don't even need your role, just what pokemon you are.

I have lost so much respect for you right now. Think, and if you still need my pokemon I will tell you.

[Masskid]

As a heads up ill be total MIA till like 6/7 PM tomorrow, driving back and probably gonna hit baton rouge traffic so you will probably see even less activity from me T-T

[Blackmage]

I didn't mean the role. I meant "the one who sends the innocent man to his death".

I just realized. I'm not suspicious of Nem. Which is in and of itself strange. No one really seems to be very suspicious of him. Does anyone know anything about what game he is playing?

[brett friggin favre]

I have lost so much respect for you right now. Think, and if you still need my pokemon I will tell you.

not gonna bother to think about it. plus i quote scribble from just a bit ago: "Blackmage has been responding but has not dropped any clues as to what role or affiliation they are just like nem and what."

i'm not the only one who doesnt know what you might be.

[Blackmage]

Mass, quick, before you go, are you Squirtle?

[Masskid]

Mass, quick, before you go, are you Squirtle?
:cool:

[What]

Brett, slow down, Re-read, and Re-think.

As far as Nem goes, based on how he plays from what I have seen both modding and playing, he lacks subtlety, until he displays a change in playing style, no reason to suspect him.

Also, um, anyone else see Black now shifting stuff towards Nem, he is deflecting and trying to change focus. Again I am not saying he is 100% mafia, but he is playing differently and damn suspiciously.

[SCRIBBLE]

23 pages on day 2, we are going no where. I am going to cast this vote because we have not had a whole lot of input from this person at all. If he responds I will reconsider.

Vote Wolf

:headache:

[Blackmage]

Vote Mass

Sticking with what I said. That was NOT a hard claim. More than willing to change it, but no reason to be a liar.

Back to What. I'm questioning why no one is suspicious of Nem. What's wrong with that? Especially when I'm being questioned by a number of players. What am I supposed to do, say "Yes, vote for me, that will help"? Trying to find out why no one is suspicious of someone who we know nothing about gives information into people's thought process. I'm not suspicious of him either, but I'm not really sure why. Even if I do get lynched, this will give information for the next day.

How many times have people even voted for me between the two games? Unlike Roman, I don't have any information to give to try and clear myself. What are you basing this "differently" on?

You have been willingly misconstruing some of what I say, ignoring other things I said. You are being vague, and trying to push doubt on me. This last thing being exactly what you're complaining about me doing. I'm not sure what you're trying to do, or why.

[brett friggin favre]

Brett, slow down, Re-read, and Re-think.

As far as Nem goes, based on how he plays from what I have seen both modding and playing, he lacks subtlety, until he displays a change in playing style, no reason to suspect him.

Also, um, anyone else see Black now shifting stuff towards Nem, he is deflecting and trying to change focus. Again I am not saying he is 100% mafia, but he is playing differently and damn suspiciously.

bitch i don't have enough free time to re-read every fucking thing.

[Blackmage]

*Not being voted on, having FoS leveled upon me.

[What]

bitch i don't have enough free time to re-read every fucking thing.

if You can't See what is Recent, i can't help you. One last time, rethink, reread, if you can't figure it out I will tell my pokemon.

[brett friggin favre]

if You can't See what is Recent, i can't help you. One last time, rethink, reread, if you can't figure it out I will tell my pokemon.

stop being so fucking difficult.

[What]

Hey Brett put some EFFORT into the game, unlike when you are on the mafia's side, you need to actually read things and try to figure shit out rather than just have shit handed to you.

[Nemesis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxkIBEw_K1c

This is what this feels like...

[brett friggin favre]

that's what i've been doing. now it's late and as i've said before, i don't have the free time to go through and re-read everything. i told you guys i work 14 hour days so i can't be all here, and when i have free time like right now i'm not gonna go back and chase ghosts. if it's supposed to be so damn obvious then why am i not the only one who doesn't see it? why are you so reluctant to tell?

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p.s. i checked, there's no pokemon named shitbrain.

[What]

My fear is that you are the only one Brett. There is not time limit, sleep, refresh yourself, and think.

[brett friggin favre]

here's that quote again


Blackmage has been responding but has not dropped any clues as to what role or affiliation they are just like nem and what.

[brett friggin favre]

dude, fuck it. im fucking exhausted. constantly. i'm not wasting my time searching for this bullshit. but if nobody else is gonna vote for him for some heiroglyphic bullshit he encoded into his posts then i guess i'll have to go off that. which brings me to bedtime. good night fuckers.

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*because of some heiroglyphic bullshit

[Nemesis]

dude, fuck it. im fucking exhausted. constantly. i'm not wasting my time searching for this bullshit. but if nobody else is gonna vote for him for some heiroglyphic bullshit he encoded into his posts then i guess i'll have to go off that. which brings me to bedtime. good night fuckers.

I'm here. you didn't vote for anyone :(

[Blackmage]

unvote

Nem, I believe the fact that you and I were here was what Brett was getting at.. No one other than him was initiating the vote on What. I am willing to vote for What, but didn't want it to just look like a scummy OMGUS vote.

To try to alleviate this possibility, here's my reasons against What.

Failure statics/logic in this post (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/11043-Pokemon-Mafia-Gotta-Catch-em-scum!?p=163204#post163204) and this post (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/11043-Pokemon-Mafia-Gotta-Catch-em-scum!?p=163230#post163230). Supposing a randomized selection, outcomes of previous data sets does nothing to this set's outcome.

Misrepresenting me in this post (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/11043-Pokemon-Mafia-Gotta-Catch-em-scum!?p=163204#post163204). First, the shorter posts. Like I said here (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/11043-Pokemon-Mafia-Gotta-Catch-em-scum!?p=163228#post163228) this is similar to what I was doing in Roman. As for not analyzing things, I've been doing that. In doing it, I've come up with one seemingly right answer (Ditto) and made an accepted observation (Meowth). Also, misrepresenting is going on in this post (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/11043-Pokemon-Mafia-Gotta-Catch-em-scum!?p=163230#post163230). As I said shortly thereafter, I was never defending him, just ANALYZING his play style.

Being a hypocrite. Here (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/11043-Pokemon-Mafia-Gotta-Catch-em-scum!?p=163227#post163227), trying to shift suspicion onto Mass. Here (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/11043-Pokemon-Mafia-Gotta-Catch-em-scum!?p=163238#post163238) onto me. And here (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/11043-Pokemon-Mafia-Gotta-Catch-em-scum!?p=163249#post163249) suggesting it's suspicious when I do this.

Flat out lying. Part 1 (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/11043-Pokemon-Mafia-Gotta-Catch-em-scum!?p=163242#post163242) Part 2 (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/11043-Pokemon-Mafia-Gotta-Catch-em-scum!?p=163249#post163249) Part 3 (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/11043-Pokemon-Mafia-Gotta-Catch-em-scum!?p=163254#post163254) Part 4 (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/11043-Pokemon-Mafia-Gotta-Catch-em-scum!?p=163257#post163257) Part 5 (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/11043-Pokemon-Mafia-Gotta-Catch-em-scum!?p=163261#post163261)

I have another problem with this post (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/11043-Pokemon-Mafia-Gotta-Catch-em-scum!?p=163242#post163242). He's expecting someone to follow his word because it's his word. Also, claiming to have softclaimed.

Another problem I had making this vote was not being sure if he's being scummy, or just sticking to his guns. However, I'll still make the vote, and let the rest decide if it's worth doing.

Vote What

Waiting for Mass to get back might be a good idea, see if ANYONE can get a hardclaim out of him. Would like more people's opinion or information in general. On a related note, Wolf has a vote on him for this exact reason.

I'm off for the night. If anyone has any questions for me, feel free to ask them, I'd be glad to answer them.

[Nemesis]

Now there are three votes as far as I see. One each for wolf, mass and now What. Hopefully more will come on and vote, or switch their votes, or we won't be able to get anything done. Hopefully it's soon too before more bullshit is thrown around.

[Wolfenstinger]

For my extremely long delayed response - here it is... Vote What

Reason : I just played catch up from like Page 30ish? I apologize. Gut feeling telling me there's more to What than he's wanting to put out. That's just me though.

Also - as far as what Pokemon could possibly be a part of this based off the scenes Cyber posted:

Butterfree - Dead

Squirtle - Dem Sunglasses. Doctor / Protector?

Jigglypuff - Karaoke. (BrB Nightcaps.) Role Blocker that just makes whoever pass teh fuck out probably.

Meowth - Obvious catchphrase is obvious. Possibly holds Godfather and runs the show.

Hitmonchan / Hitmonlee : One is a puncher, the other is a kicker. If not this duo then possibly the one under it
Primeape (or Mankey) / Machamp (or pre evolutions such as Machoke or Machop). Could even be a crossover between Hitmonchan / Machamp, which either way these are possible mafia henchmen as Machamp is a pokemon of Giovanni's as well.

Snorlax - The Sleepy One



Beedrill / Nidoking / Nidoqueen for Lethal Stings - Reason being is they use Poison Point. Whether or not this is is relevant to this game or not, just generic background on this is that Nidoking / Nidoqueen are used by Giovanni. As for Beedrill, more of a Neutral Aggressive role and not Mafia Aligned (unless Cyber decided otherwise; in which case, whatever.)


I know I saw this info before but this is pretty much what I gathered off it myself. Granted there are drinks being drunk and alcohol going around, I guess the part I don't understand was the day attack (if that's what it is suppose to be).

Me - Duplica's Ditto (Kinda wish I could transform properly and blend in but Noooooo... Oh well.)

Scribble - the supposed Psyduck that is in the group, which was claimed.

Now as for Mikey's pokemon, he is right now an Exeggcute and has a leafstone to become Executor at night. Basically - that is how he becomes a god damn tree. If I'm wrong, then there goes a lot of my background knowledge on pokemon. By background knowledge, I mean everything I know about Generation 1 out the window. As far as anything past Generation 2 - the fuck?

These pokemon are my speculation on it. Take it as you wish.

Also : Corsola.

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Also if we wanna get real technical with Team Rocket henchmen - Rattata / Raticate ; Koffing / Weezing ; Ekans / Arbok ; Growlithe ; Voltorb ; Electrode ; Magneton ; Magnemite ; Ponyta ; Tangela ; Zubat / Golbat

Theres a few names out there for your viewing pleasure.

[Nemesis]

Something does seem off about What this game. Glad I'm not the only one to notice.

Vote What

[Wolfenstinger]

Just for good measure : Corsola.

[SCRIBBLE]

Unvote


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However, not entirely convinced on What.

[Nemesis]

Ok. Motherfucking bed time. If something changes it'll have to wait for me to wake up before I can weigh in.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

nem is my number one suspect at this point. What has been all over the place but would like to hear a defense before making a vote.

That was alot to read through, i apologize for not replying sooner. alot of shit happening, good shit not bad. will be less active then before tell i finally get home!

anyways, nem was playing stupid earlier. usually he has some witty and relevant piece of information to help in conversation. he has been asking way to many questions based off other games. I also have a gut feeling, have had it since day one. which leads me into what being a suspect.... he and nem were butt buddies the first day. along with reasons put out there.

My last two suspects are blackmage and masskid.

Blackmage appears to be deflecting and pushing interests onto other people. while masskid continues to beat around the bush with his claim.

scribbs is as much gtown as i am in my eyes, he stated his lack of knowledge with pokemon and made some very obvious hints as to what he is. can tell he bulbapedia'd that shit.

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what is also being very passive about his pending doom. I would think mafia would be kicking and screaming with defense.

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how i personally feel at this point in the game.

Mikey --town
Brett -- town
Blade -- town
Scribb -- town
Wolf -- town

What
Nem
Blackmage
Masskid


that leaves me with a 50/50 chance to hit mafia.

What ever the lynch results are, cop should prob reveal knowledge tmrw provided the doctor is still alive.

[BladeTwinSwords]

I will need to read over the posts again as I missed about 6 pages overnight. Then I will cast my vote.

I'm honestly drifting more towards Masskid than What but if need be I will vote on What.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

uhg, does anyone else not feel like there is some heavy misleading going on?

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uhg, does anyone else not feel like there is some heavy misleading going on?

i mean why hasnt what attempted to defend him self yet? He is passively letting a lynch on him happen. he could be koffing, or electrodude. wins when lynched or killed then explodes or some shit.

[What]

Well you are all really fucking stupid.

Pika Pika Mother fuckers, if you can't tell that means I'm a townie then there is no hope for you.

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PS I'm west coast so this is still morning for me.

[brett friggin favre]

Can't see why its between us.
i'm Obviously going to say I am town, but I'm not sure if its going to mean anything at this point.
Perhaps the reasons that I laid out for blackmage are enough to persuade you?


Mikey is in the clear.
I feel Brett is in the clear cause eventually he has to not be mafia.
You are still defending Mass's play style and trying to get us to focus on Scribble, could be an honest assessment of the game, could be something else.
Are you willing to stake your life on Scrib being Mafia, cause if he isn't you defending mass is a very big problem.


If you feel its between BM and me, then you must also have suspicions about masskid, since I already laid out, if either comes up mafia, its likely the other is as well.

that's ever post What made between the time i called him out and when he said this:


I have lost so much respect for you right now. Think, and if you still need my pokemon I will tell you.

anything indicating pikachu in those posts? keep in mind he became a cunt instead of telling me which pokemon he was.

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there's also this quote, analyzing cyber's day scene:


Honestly, based on how long it takes cyber to write these scenes, is that we need to look back further in the convo to know when this is referring to. And the only thing that occurs before it, is me talking about blade and puting scrib or mass as his possible conspirators, now I dont think i was dead on in this since someone dieing as a result of this convo if it was the mafia doing the day kill, would be done in order to provide more confusion. So I think I must have been wrong about something, but the mafia wanted to reinforce that I was on to something so that we would take out a towny. So we need to use that to work on the possible suspects, and with that in mind I have some people that need to be looked at.

[What]

This is a story involving Ash, and Professor Oak and you are going to tell me there is no Pikachu in this game? Really.

[brett friggin favre]

This is a story involving Ash, and Professor Oak and you are going to tell me there is no Pikachu in this game? Really.

no. likely the one with a tail in the night post. but i'm saying you indicated you left clues in your posts and i'm saying there are none in the posts made during the timeframe you seemed to indicate.

[What]

Ok, well I have shit to do today so I can't keep playing babysitter to captain Downs over here. I thought Brett had some intelligence, but apparently as mafia its much easier to feign intelligence, ie Mikey in last game.

I never said I was hinting at my Pokemon captain retard, I already fucking role claimed in those posts, notice anything odd about the first post after you called me out? HMMMMMMMMM Well those capitals seem a little off, lets read them in order C-O-P, naw that can't mean anything, fucknuts.

Guess what Mikey, the cop did investigate What, and he is fucking clear, you know why? Cause I'm the god damn cop!

You are all a bunch of fucking hypocrites,"Well its ok for Blade and others not to role claim, they don't want to be targets, that would be stupid!"
2 minutes later, "What, tell us your role! Now! do it Now! Why isn't he telling us guys? I guess he is hiding something evil! BLARLGDHLDH!"

This just came a game of "Find the Doctor" for the mafia since now he has to fucking protect me at night.

Guess I won't use any subtlety at all since doing so apparently goes over the children's heads and instills anger and hate in their souls.



Also, Fucking vote for god damn Blackmage already. He voted Mass, why? Cause I already laid out that the two could be connected, so the only way out of that is voting for him himself and making a case that way. Then he changes his vote to me after I spent all night telling Brett to take 2 seconds and reread what I wrote. I'm betting he fucking picked up on what I was hinting at.
Also, Nemesis was damn good at me claiming doctor last game and not actually saying it, now this time he doesn't pick up on anything and builds the vote train on me?

Yeah, thats what I have so far, no more hinting, no more subtlety. Y'all just made this game a lot less winnable for the town, retards.

[brett friggin favre]

after reading posts from people like taz, kenneth, etc...i don't look for capitalization. if you wanted me to do that, you could say "my death is something mafia could capitalize on." subtle, but a clear sign.

so you investigated yourself, to see if you had any hidden modifiers i'm assuming. well what we have now is this: we have a doc. he is squirtle. mass softclaims squirtle, you're currently pursuing mass. his claim is BLATANTLY obvious. now assuming you're telling the truth, and i think you are because no fakeclaiming cop would say he investigated himself (right?), that's one less possibility. this leaves it down to masskid (softclaiming squirtle), wolf (shitto?), nem (???), blade (jiggly?). if we have someone else claim squirtle, that would seem to indict masskid. if we then lynch masskid and he was squirtle, we'll know damn well who the other person who claimed squirtle is. blade was referred to as an "idiot" in the night post. let's not trust him...but he's likely not mafia. unless he's a mafia idiot...so for now, until someone else claims squirtle, that leaves us at nem and wolf, correct? don't like wolf's claim.

nem, state your shit. those voting What, unvote if you please.

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the squirtle scenario also applies for blade's less-than-convincing jiggly claim. jigglypuff was actually strong as hell if i recall...and he claimed to be weak and let us come to our own conclusions. if someone else claims j-puff, or has another idea for the karaoke poke, speak up.

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also, forgot about blackmage. he's not off the hook right?

[Blackmage]

What, did you actually investigate yourself? If so, are you claiming a cop that can see hidden modifiers, as Brett suggested? If you thought so, what were you looking for? If it was a hidden that doesn't tell you negative modfiers, what would be the point? I would like to hear what your theory on investigating yourself instead of looking for information was.

I said I'd vote for Mass if he didn't hard claim. Did he hardclaim? No. So should I have not followed up on what I said? I've had issues with Mass because he's been inactive. Why is it strange that I'd follow up on that after he continued to pretend to be active? My vote for him had jack to due with what you were saying about him. He still hasn't hardclaimed. This means he's not given us any information, just more speculation.

Also, you just outed yourself, for no particular reason.


i mean beyond alignment. how about this, i don't even need your role, just what pokemon you are.

I don't know who you think was asking for your role, or why you decided to give it out.

I'm tryiny to figure out why you think everything is about you. Claiming the Day Report was about you. Claiming I'm a dancing monkey and you're turning the crank. Claiming we "forced" you into a role claim when all that was being asked for was flavour report. I'm halfway hoping What decided to make some gambles on Cyber. Expecting that it was decided that Ash takes his Pikachu EVERYWHERE, and that the Masons do equal the cop in this game... However, I'll remove my vote. I'm also highly curious why he's pushing for votes for me, but won't do it himself.

unvote

On Blade, I just figure he's 3rd party at worst. I'd rather find the mafia, and then, if after 2 mafia are down, we're still not done, look long and hard at him.

Also, using only gen 1 pokes, can't think of any other karaoke. However, using movies, or later gens, there are a few options. One of the pikachu shorts was actually largely about Meowth causing pokemon to sing and dance. But, I digress. Jiggly is the most likely.

I will also openly admit to being pushing doubt onto other people. This is not supposed to be cloak and dagger I'm doing. I have nothing to claim that would help prove myself innocent, so my best plan is to prove someone else more guilty.

Brett, who is "off the hook" all depends on what you think people have said, and what you think Cyber's done to us this time. I'm not going to be convinced by soft claims, but some are, for example. On the other end, if I thought Mikey was more devious than he is, I could convince myself HE was mafia. However, he's Mikey so I'm still fairly sure he's clear.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Why would I lie about being Jigglypuff? It's just a Pokémon, not a roleclaim. Granted, Jigglypuff could only be but so many roles (Reporter, Roleblocker, VT, Survivor, Rolestopper, etc).

What, even if you WERE the cop, we can only take your investigative results at face value since you could still be Naïve, Sane, or Random.

I will stand by my option and not vote until I am sure of who is the most suspicious.

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Mikey IS Innocent based on the fact that he correctly identified Taz.

[brett friggin favre]

masons in place instead of cops...possibility for sure. What knowing this and therefore claiming the most obvious pokemon and a role which he "knows" won't be in the game...possibility. What actually being the cop, but being insane, naive etc. because of the presence of masons...possibility.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Masons aren't really a terribly uncommon role. They are basically the equivalent of an Encrypter for Mafia.

A cop investigating himself first is actually a valid move because if he shows up as guilty, then he is either Random, Insane, or Paranoid. 2 of those 3 are bad. (Insane isn't as bad once you know that's what you are since it just produces opposite results.)

I doubt he would be Random because then I could castrate Cyber.

[Blackmage]

For Mikey to be guilty, we need to assume two things. 1: there are some bastard roles in the game. Well, it's Cyber, and we've already seen Beloved Princess, so that's possible. 2: You need a devious player. That's where I see the most problem with this scenario.

Supposing we do have both, here's how it plays out. Player 1 gets both players abilities. Player 2 gets the same with one difference. His alignment says "mafia" and his role includes a line that says "your Mason friend thinks you're a townie". A quick claim from Player 2, calling out player 1, getting him killed. You're now a cleared mafia member.

BTW: I love making up scenarios, and will run through them in my mind. It leaves me paranoid and able to make out almost anyone as guilty. It's chaotic, but fun.

Blade: but if he shows up as innocent, he might be naive or still random. Showing up guilty also might mean a hidden miller. Or he might have been framed or bussed away. This is just what I've thought up without checking wikis. No matter what alignment he gets, he has to figure out WHAT it means. As such, curious what he thinks of what he got back.

[Wolfenstinger]

Unvote

Something to keep in mind, just because Masskid may be claiming sunglasses with Squirtle doesn't necessarily mean he is a doctor / protector. If you don't know the sunglasses squirtle's history that well, here you go :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWYkDFiz-Tg

Ignoring the fact he did join Ash at the end, I'd just like to point out Squirtle was his own little gang/mafia.

So personally - I'd wanna vote Masskid next on this but I'm not rushing it due to the fact he's on the road at the moment. I'd like to hear from him when he gets back home, even if it's going to be the random bickering.

Cor sola!

[brett friggin favre]

squirtle hugs the first person he sees, recruits him into a cult? thoughts?

[Wolfenstinger]

Likewise - I'd like to lynch him off but like I said, waiting on Masskid

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Corsola.

[SCRIBBLE]

Well we might as well stop posting for another 3-4 hours. This is one FAST game.

[BladeTwinSwords]

This is quite possibly one of the slowest games that we've had.

[Wolfenstinger]

We could generate a list of all 151 pokemon on here for shits n giggles without looking at a wiki or something. :p

[SCRIBBLE]

No.
7452

[Wolfenstinger]

Corsola.

[SCRIBBLE]

Wasting time waiting...
7453

[brett friggin favre]

zzz...fuck it.

random.org.

vote: masskid

[Wolfenstinger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It6xj40UVRM

Random related video.

Corsola

[Blackmage]

First day hit a roadblock, then ended blazingly fast. Day 2 has been very slow.

If squirtle IS cult, we'll know soon enough. I can see it being true, Mikey claims to still be counted after stumping (or did he change that), Wolf claims bulletproof, and at least one more person has some form of protection. On death Taz gave universal protection. So the cult trumps town, town trumps mafia, and mafia trumps cult.

Oh, and while it's probably just Blade being Blade, don't forget, he posted a gimp suit again :P

Wolf, let's sing the poke-rap!

"I want to be the best, there ever was, to beat all the rest, yeah that's my cause! Electrode, Diglett, Nidoran, Mankey, Venusaur, Rattata, Fearow, Pidgey, Seaking, Jolteon, Dragonite, Gastly, Ponyta, Vaporeon, Poliwrath, Butterfree"

On votes:

Nem voting for What
Brett Voting for Mass

Are there any other currently active votes?

[BladeTwinSwords]

I feel like we should just pick a random person to lynch like Day 1 normally is.

[Wolfenstinger]

Catch em Catch em gotta catch em all, POKEMON!

Corsola.

[What]

The best part is I don't need to be all nice and unassuming now.

You stupid Fucks, for god sake. Yeah I totally investigate myself and in no way was making a Joke on Mikey's post. Sweet Jesus I had no fucking idea you all had so much retard coursing through your veins at any given time. HOLY SHIT you dumb fucks.

As to what Blade said, kinda notice why I didn't say who I investigated???? Maybe cause it turned up innocent which could be a misnomer could be that he was godfather who the fuck knows at this point. Pull your heads out of your collective asses.

Brett, really your gonna think that mass is the doctor then a few minutes later go, well fuck I'm gonna vote for him.

Who would I suspect now, at least as a way to learn somethings, for me of course since for any of you to learn anything would require someone to Tatoo facts on your cornea and then still take hours to fucking convince you that its there.
Blackmage is really my primary target right now, if he is mafia, yeah i know who the other one is, if he isn't yeah I know who another mafia is, I'd explain but whats the fucking point right now.
Nem is also on my list, and everyone knows he isnt to be trusted, but he hasn't done much, is that suspicious? maybe, but Blackmage has done more than enough to warrant a look see.

Vote Blackmage

[BladeTwinSwords]

You know what, fuck it, let's give What a chance.

Vote Blackmage

[Blackmage]

I'm curious, what have I done? You keep claiming that my investigation of Mass is defending him. That questioning other people is a bad thing. That trying to keep myself alive is a sin. What have I done that is so bad? Maybe if you put it into words, more people would agree with you, and lynch more. Or perhaps the problem is there isn't anything, and you too are just trying to deflect.

Even if you are the cop, you're not helping the town. Telling us who you investigated gives us a baseline. If they die at night, we get information. Not telling us anything does exactly that. Tells us nothing. You say you don't have to be nice and unassuming, instead you're still being vague and telling us nothing. "I know who the other mafia is, but I'M NOT TELLING".

[Wolfenstinger]

Defense Curl
Barrier
Safeguard
Recover

Corsola.

[Nemesis]

Just woke up. On phone.

Knew there was something strange about What.

unvote What
[COKOR #F05000]Vote Blackmage[/COLOR]

[BladeTwinSwords]

I actually do have a reason why I voted Blackmage. He is more inconsistent than in previous games.

My honest opinion is that the Mafia are Blackmage, Masskid, and either Wolf or Nemesis.
Brett is playing off which indicates Innocence. Mikey is Innocent (No shit!!!). Wolf is Innocent because Ditto is a little shithead. I am Innocent because I say so you sluts.

What is pissed as hell for very obvious reasons and is more than likely Innocent. Scribble is being Scribble.

Maybe I would be more active if you fucking cunts didn't post at 3 in the goddamn morning when normal people sleep. I have work at 7am and don't get off until around 6 so fuck off. When I wake up, I really don't feel like reading through 10 pages of pure shit. By the time I get home, I miss even more stuff.