Pokemon Mafia: Gotta Catch'em scum!

[BladeTwinSwords]

Wolf, who were you going to shoot night 1?

[Nemesis]

And Cyber, I think that one thing you need to realize is that not everyone needs a crazy-ass role and modifiers. Sometimes it's just fun to play the game and not worry about all kinds of stupid shit.

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Because i was relying a lot of tom's original setup, i used everything based on epic mafia almost:
Can choose to become a tree at night.
Once a tree, cannot be killed or converted.
Once a tree, cannot vote.
Sided with the village.

That's the tree stump...


As for you, the protection said " NO ONE can die at night" that includes non-town.
But even if it was town only, you attacked the Godfather nemesis... and he was bulletproof of course.
The funny thing is that taz's protection didnt do a single thing that night considering everyone attacked bloodmage lol and wolf didnt attack anyone

Ah, that's where the confusion came from, as that's nowhere near what a Tree Stump actually is.

Poor Black, gets shot like 12 times...

[CYBER]

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So as you can see, half the shit that happened was redundant and overlapping. town wasn't really op.
Say i gave nemesis 2 bulletproofs from the start, he'd still be dead now since he was roleblocked and was about to attack the bomb, and he was shot twice already..


And btw nem, some people on epic mafia say that bulletproof vests are only for night... so when scribble shot u at day, no amount of bulletproofs could have saved u from that. I personally looked it up and some mods think the bulletproof is from all attacks, which is th ewording i used in the roles i sent, so u got saved during the day.
So again, if u think about it , no amount of vests or skills could have tipped shit over...

Blackmage's GF? it was perfect considering there was a vig in game... and usually a Gf isn't lynched THAT FAST... What was insisting though and got BM lynched... had it not been that way, mafia would be alive and the vig cant kill the gf, and it would be a game of killing the doc then cop bcos cop cant even investigate bm...

so yeah... i think it's an ok setup as is... again... i took almost every role from tom except last 2 which were 3 things i merged in 2 due to lack of players.

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Tom had a bulletproof townie btw... i made him a treestump to nerf his bulletproof...
in fact? tom's setting was more town oriented than mine...

[Wolfenstinger]

I didn't shoot a single person Night 1 because I went ahead and did a little research on the Epicmafia wiki to find Virgin and sure enough, it said nobody dies and everyone is protected. I comprehended that as don't even bother shooting a single person. So I took no action that night.

[CYBER]

All in all. thank you all for playing .

I realize that there will always be people saying that "you should have done this over that" and i accept all those comments as feedback for me to learn...

I just hope you guys at least enjoyed this setup more than the roman one... and regain some faith in me so i can try modding again...

I can only learn and get better ... right?



I know it was probably not the most ideal setup, but was it a step in the right direction? or opposite? please comment :)

[Nemesis]

I think giving someone a double kill ability is ridiculous too, but that's just me.

But, no, all in all it wasn't a bad game.

ONE THING!

I was talking to Cyber a few times how I found it hilarious that Mikey was typing these huge drawn out posts, and everyone was totally ignoring him. Funniest thing ever. I had to stop myself a few times from even answering him, because no body cared. It was good.

[BladeTwinSwords]

If you all want, I can setup a basic Mafia Game with no crazy roles.

[Masskid]

I never voted O.O

[Nemesis]

I'd actually like to try hosting one. Blade I would love to work with you if you want to throw one together, I've got some ideas but nothing crazy. What you think?

[CYBER]

i have to admit one thing... NEMESIS WAS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO UNLUCKY IN THIS GAME Hahahah...

im sry bud, but its true.. u had a target on ur back

night 1: u attacked the GF. => no kill stacking
Scribble shot u during day. => lost a vest
You got roleblocked by blade AND shot by scribble WHILE ATTACKING THE BOMB => garanteed death.


I mean... LOL... people were after u mean, i dnt know why thought, u seem like the friendliest human being i know -.- :P

[Nemesis]

i have to admit one thing... NEMESIS WAS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO UNLUCKY IN THIS GAME Hahahah...

im sry bud, but its true.. u had a target on ur back

night 1: u attacked the GF. => no kill stacking
Scribble shot u during day. => lost a vest
You got roleblocked by blade AND shot by scribble WHILE ATTACKING THE BOMB => garanteed death.


I mean... LOL... people were after u mean, i dnt know why thought, u seem like the friendliest human being i know -.- :P

Technically since I got roleblocked I wouldn't have died from attacking the bomb.

[SCRIBBLE]

Uncharacteristically friendly. That is why. Plus my attacks on nem were to create chaos which were done successfully.

[Nemesis]

Uncharacteristically friendly. That is why. Plus my attacks on nem were to create chaos which was done successfully.

I actually didn't do anything out of the ordinary. I think since I planned my summer vacation a few days ago I've been is a great mood, probably rubbed off on my game play. hahahaha.

[Wolfenstinger]

I wouldn't mind playing more of these. I'm stupid but I still put in SOMEEEEE effort for you people :banghead:

[CYBER]

Technically since I got roleblocked I wouldn't have died from attacking the bomb.


yes i know that.

And thats why i said that scribble and wolf saved the day.

you were blocked so u wouldnt have attacked bomb that day.

say that scribble didnt kill you, and wolf didnt kill scribble.

The next day, What was investigating masskid because he suspected someone stupid would try to shoot his own teammate for lolz (as scribble planned btw...)

So scribble framed masskid in anticipation, knowing that what would probably wanna clear masskid now that bm is gone.

Had scribble not died, and he didnt shoot u ?
What would have called MAFIA on masskid, and masskid the doctor would be dead..

And then the game would have flipped to the mafia/serial side bcos the cop (what) was vulnerable and u guys can just rampage town from there...

Nem, u'd get more bulletproofs when rampaging, and Scribble can just kill ppl at night since no one else suspected him due to Blackmage calling him out publicly... he was the safest... and wolf probably would have gotten lynch bcos if it wasnt masskid, it had to be wolf... etc...

It really came down to the actions down by scribble and wolf this night.

it was anyone's game had ppl picked different ppl

[BladeTwinSwords]

Sure Nem, I can help you. I want something basic but slightly more than F11

[CYBER]

Sure Nem, I can help you. I want something basic but slightly more than F11

I actually would love to see a blade/nem comod.

Would let me see what they think is a balanced game so that we learn from eachother's setup and ideals.

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OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG i just remembered something! you wanna know what's the funniest shit ever????


When i first made the random.org setup with chikun in the game... HE WAS THE MAFIA FRAMER!!


when brett replaced him... i was like LOOOOOOOOOOOOLL brett's the mafia again... but i felt sorry for him so i just randomized the list again lol... and that's how we got our setup now.


so yeah... once a mafia, always a mafia... right brett?:P

[Nemesis]

Sure Nem, I can help you. I want something basic but slightly more than F11

Excellent. Should we create a thread to start interest, then we can chat over some details?

[BladeTwinSwords]

Excellent. Should we create a thread to start interest, then we can chat over some details?

Let's create a thread and work out the balancing.

[Nemesis]

Let's create a thread and work out the balancing.

Ok, let me know what you think about my premise and I can start a thread and we can select roles after that.

Sry, inbox was full.

[brett friggin favre]

I actually would love to see a blade/nem comod.

Would let me see what they think is a balanced game so that we learn from eachother's setup and ideals.

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OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG i just remembered something! you wanna know what's the funniest shit ever????


When i first made the random.org setup with chikun in the game... HE WAS THE MAFIA FRAMER!!


when brett replaced him... i was like LOOOOOOOOOOOOLL brett's the mafia again... but i felt sorry for him so i just randomized the list again lol... and that's how we got our setup now.


so yeah... once a mafia, always a mafia... right brett?:P

... -.-

well we all learned a valuable lesson. i can be innocent. even if it has to be re-randomized for me.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

very good game!

lmao... sorry for being afk o.o only a couple more days of this crap!

[Nemesis]

Everyone! Come sign up for the next game! Fun for all!

[What]

Well that was unexpected, and pretty weird. I go out to get dinner and everyone's dead. Woo.

[Nemesis]

Well that was unexpected, and pretty weird. I go out to get dinner and everyone's dead. Woo.

sign up for next game, cunt.

[What]

Can't I'm going to be in Turkey for over a month starting monday. Unsure at this point if I will have any internet and even if I do I wouldn't be able to be around much.

[Nemesis]

Can't I'm going to be in Turkey for over a month starting monday. Unsure at this point if I will have any internet and even if I do I wouldn't be able to be around much.

I hope you get tear gassed.

[What]

I hope you get tear gassed.

Wuv you!

[Blackmage]

I was really looking forward to day 3 too. Ah well, good game :)

BTW, if I was acting strange the first couple days? It's because what I said was true. My brother's wedding was over the weekend. It won out over a silly game. I was only on when I was in my hotel room killing time.

Second, I'd decided day one that my role was going to play the Primape role. I'd had the role of "Pidgeot, Busser" in case that role became untenable, but the night scene pretty much removed need for him. Oh, and that role? Not something I made up on the fly, or even created myself. I've played that exact role before. But the entire day game, I was playing as if I was exactly the role I stated. Given Scribble and I really didn't say much to each other, it was a really easy plan. I've looked through my posts, and do believe this would have been my game had I actually been the role I claimed. I also believe, other than insults said about What, I didn't lie that game, if I'd been my primeape :)

The time I questioned Scribble was about the only thing I'd have done differently as town. I was trying to get him to shut up about trainers, so that if I died first, people didn't look at that and say "oh, look, one trainer, who was mafia, now who was asking about trainers again?".

Now for some comments on people:

What: My dismissal of Mass was really all in your mind :P I really was just disagreeing with your assessment of his playstyle, not trying to clear him. I also did distrust your cop claim. Not pikachu, I'd actually figured THAT was true. Given how hard you were pushing me, I was thinking that there was a lyncher who had to get the godfather lynched. Pikachu being required to take out team rocket even made sense from a flavour standpoint. That, and you had actually pulled some fairly scummy moves throughout the game. While I knew you weren't mafia, lyncher cares not for the town.

Mikey: After seeing the role Taz had, I understand your day 1 play. Disagree with how you played it, but understand the play.

Taz: That role sucked. Thanks for playing :)

Wolf: Nicely shot.

Nem: You were way to nice. Stop that.

Mass: ...Isn't it a bear to try and play a game while busy?

Brett: Similar to Mass, however, you don't know how much you annoyed me, not making a decision on which one of us to vote on. Kept having hope I might survive in the end. I hope you have more time to play next time, thanks for filling in for Chikun.

Scribble: After that day report, I was wishing we had some way for you to signal who you shot. Beyond that, and the trainer problem, it was fun to watch your game.

Blade: I feel you're a little too jaded about information.

Actually, that's another thing. The information from this group is odd. Day "0" gave us a quickly unanimous required lynch, which basically turned Mikey into an Innocent Child, and a cop headstart. Day One had both our cop and doctor claim.

Ok, between 3 games, I've been shot in all 3, by 5 different people, one of whom shot me twice. I love you all too! I may need to request bulletproof more often.

Cyber: IMO, in this game, Taz's role SUCKED HARD. Whoever got it knew they had to be lynched. Their ally did too. His death means we get a clear, and a free night for an additional investigation. His non-death means he might die at night. With 3 night kills, it's not hard to accidentally get offed. If he survives to day 2, after seeing 3 attacks, hopefully his partner is still alive so they can get him lynched then. If his ally is dead, he'd end up looking like a jester, and if someone decides to shoot him because they figure no one will protect him, he's screwed the town. As a non-mason, it's probably worse, because you have no one to back you up and still run into the jester issue, and your death isn't even as useful for the town, as you don't give a clear. Almost sounds more scum like, if you want a scum with a negative modifier, virgin in this case. Heh, beloved princess scum. AKA: the minesweeper!

Beyond that, I think Nem was weak. With the town having a free round for investigation, him having two people able to shoot at him, a day kill that can kill him, and a bomb that can accidentally nuke him, two enemies he can't kill through shooting, I see a VERY low win rate for him.

The town and mafia, however, looks fairly balanced. I think Scrib could have used a single protection of some sort, for similar reasons to Nem. Pretty much anything, lynch, bullet, death or even some sort of investigation immunity.

I do disagree on that out on Taz, supposing both of the masons see the ramifications of that role. I hope, more often than what happened in this game, this would be a more common way Day 1 plays out. Tree: Princess needs to die today. He will confirm. Princess: confirmed. If pushed: claim mason, and claim that death at night is bad for town. Would you shoot the princess in this case? I can think of reasons to lynch that are good for the town, and many MANY ways this can reveal you're playing a bastard mod. Which is good information by itself. However, shooting him can be very risky. One is similar to the problem we would have had in this game. If death is triggered by time of day, you're killing someone who was about to be lynched for no profit. In this case, you'd be giving them two free days, removing your only free kill, rather than losing a single night.

[BladeTwinSwords]

I was trying to play as passively as I could so as to not draw attention while still contributing something.

[SCRIBBLE]

The trainer "problem" was intentional and it worked.