Mafia Game: The Donner Party

[Passarelli]

I'm honestly not trying to.

It's ok, I fucked it up too. Roffle. At least the link I posted was correct.

[Trigger Unhappy]

Can one of the veteran players please help me discern if this was purposeful misinformation?

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Nevermind missed where they both brought up their mistakes

[Passarelli]

Considering it was mostly Blade and Mikey (with a small error by me), you'd have to look to Sin or Cyber.

Speaking of, Cyber showed up for like 5 minutes to post in the admin abuse thread and disappeared again.

:shit:Cyber:shit:Hey Cyber:shit:Where are you?:shit::shit::shit:

[I'm a zambi]

Yeah because I made a mistake too, lol. :headache:

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Can one of the veteran players please help me discern if this was purposeful misinformation?

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Nevermind missed where they both brought up their mistakes

Non of it was purposely done. A misunderstanding, as sin said, iv been playing far to much em vs mafia scum.
A read the nk immunity as nobkill because the sk in em is forced to make a night action. It appears nem copy pasted from a wiki that clears up all this misunderstanding.

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Going to bed, will vote zambi in the morning, if he isnt already dead.

[I'm a zambi]

Going to bed, will vote zambi in the morning, if he isnt already dead.
:stupid: :plzdie:

[Trigger Unhappy]

Yeah my page hadnt refreshed when I posted that.

[CYBER]

Alright.
So i hovered over most of the posts in the goddamn 8 pages that Y'all wrote.
I'm about to drive home, expect a detailed quoted post from me later.

As for my afkness, yes, I have posted a lotttttttt less than normal for 2 main reasons:
- as I stated many many times so far, my family (also bosses-_-) were traveling for a full month, and i have been working roughly 18h a day. So although I try to read some shit during my 5 mins break to take a dump or have my healthy meal of the day, I just can't risk starting up a post on my phone only to get interrupted by a sudden work rush at the restaurant. Hence why I only dropped by out of boredom to ask wtf is happening in the admin abuse thread that I got notified by email.
That being said, I picked up my family from the airport today, so I should have finally some free time and less shifts at the restaurant to go through all ur crap on a more routine basis instead of stacking them for my 2am posts at night...

- second reason why I'd post less is entirely coincidental : i rather enjoyed watching scribble post more often while I read through everyone else's crap instead of doing a lot of metaing that gets either ignored or backfires on me. It's kinda refreshing to act like scribble or nem in his last game as scummy cop, but i have actually a few points to talk about now that I digested all the other posts.

Anywho, leaving now. I will post when get home and check on something I read quickly

[Passarelli]

:soap:

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Yeah, with that I'm going to bed. I'll read your huge wall when I wake up.

[CYBER]

Ok so apparently the jackass that was supposed to sign the lease decides to text me 1.5 hours into the drive to tell me to reschedule the meet. I will now be here all day.

Seriously? Some of you honestly don't believe that I went to DC? Would you like me to upload receipts or something? How often do you ever see me go offline on Steam for more than 1 day? Not very often.

Here are my thoughts so far:

Innocent:

Phil - It's painfully obvious that Phil is a VT. He isn't a power role because he wouldn't be this willing to sacrifice himself.
Mikey - The way Mikey is currently playing is indicative of Town. Power Role? Maybe.
Sin - Sin asks good questions and provides reasons behind his ideas.
Pass - Provides good ideas to the table.

Suspicious:

Cyber - A little too quiet. Not nearly as many walls of text. Either a Town Power Role or a Cannibal.
Assassin - I have no idea what Ass is doing. A little too oblivious.
Scrib - You are quite a bit more active this game than other games. Why is that exactly?
Minjae - Active but unsure of current alignment.
Trigger - Doesn't talk enough. Either not really trying or attempting to stay in the background.

Guilty:

Zambi - You are too relaxed with your votes. You don't give enough of a good reason behind your actions. You soft claim Town after 2 others already have.
Hosh - Hosh is always that odd one out. Doesn't provide much but still seems to stand out.

And so with this post.

Unvote
Vote Zambi

Zambi is just way too suspicious with his recent posts.


LOOOOOOL now that's what i call convenient. I was about to do something similar to this and i missed it in my first hovering of the posts on my cell.

So instead i'll just summarize or reply to what u believe yourself, chew on this information for a bit.

- Phil claiming VT. That's fine, it's possible. The good thing about an available setup is that you can have a count on those. So with 6 total vts, that makes it 5 more vts out there.
- Mikey's been playing consistently as before, he's being helpful but he's bothering me with the fact that in this game alone he has quadrupled the number of "acronyms" and shothand words compared to before. At first i was wondering if he's just intentionally acting all smarty and shit so that ppl believe he's actually being helpful to town when he helps them figure out and use such acronyms... now i just think it's mikey trying to sound smart for the sake of sounding smart. Not rly high on my shit list yet. Btw @mikey, the "gahh. confirmed" thing at start of game was because i literally just clicked on "post" when i realized i didn't confirm in game, and didn't want nemesis giving me shit for it, and i couldn't edit even though i literally JUST clicked the damn thing... I was like ffs i suck. "confirmed.".
- Sin's posts have been an amazing read so far. I wont lie, you actually sound like that you've been playing a lot of games on mafiascum and seem to be 1 step ahead of everyone. Now whether that's helpful or deceitful, i don't know yet (refer to mikey's point) because you've been constantly killed off too early or mislead by morons (wink wink phil and blade) so i have yet to see ur full meta style. That being said, I have been itching to see u in a mafia scum game.
- Pass (you): pass is the guy i always try to pay close attention to (except for last game because i was too busy irl, just like until today in this game, to pay close attention to every fucking word u make). However, once i figure out if you're a herbivore or carnivore from the posts and game, and figure out if you're trust worthy, i'll make damn sure to pay more attention to help your life in this game. And i damn well expect the same treatment, you Popcorn fatty:P

-Cyber: Me. I'll only say this once more, harding bae. I have already posted TWO important reasons in my previous post why i have been afk a lot in this game, so you were a alast only partly right in your Last post, and then you derailed right after. But like i said before, i've been highly busy irl, and it's not healthy to constantly try to read everyone's time consuming crap during my quick lunch breaks only to be interrupted mid post to go make an order or some shit. So i just gave up on interacting with this at work until i get home late late at night and post wtvr i remember thinking about during the day. I hope you get that for now until i have more time to free myself for this game and read into everyone's shit the right way.
- Assassin: I have already posted my interest in his "late join" and "convenient" tick tock post... he's on my shit list for now... but judging on his previous games, assassin can make weird ass dumb plays, or simply not know what's going on (i love u two ass)
- Scribble: i did say scribble's being very active recently... after specifically saying at start game that he'll afk this whole game lol... ( he lied! LYNCH DA FOO)
- Trigger was my first vote this game, and something is striking me wrong with the way he's been playing, but i have no further intel on his behaviour as of now.

Now the good shit:
- Zambi. He currently has my vote. And unless i move it to hoshiro (more to come about him), i don't think i'll changing my mind about him until someone clears him for good. Because him being a new player, being more active than the majority of the veterans, more insightful and helpful than the veterans, and hell even more logical than most veterans in this game... it strikes me weird. And his gameplay is almost 90% consistent with an SK game... What troubles me is that i called him out on his "excess" helpfulness early... and he didn't change his gameplay... He either genuinely feels like helping (whether as town or simply bcos SK doesn't give a damn who gets killed as long as not him, which makes sense) OR he was cunning enough and logical enough to EXPECT me to EXPECT HIM to change his way of playing if he's scummy... And yup: WIFOM RIGHT FUCKING THERE. Dueled circles around myself just trying to figure out his motives.
- Hoshiro.... I swear i feel like lynching him just because his gameplay is a bit scummy but borderline retarded. If i had to guess? He's maybe mafia, and just playing the way he normally does, but he's flip flopping a lot. One time he's dumb as fuck, then he says smthn logical like wait for phil, then he goes dumb again, then he's contradicting something ( i don't remmeber what, i just remember that he contradicted something earlier if not mistaken.) AND THIS behaviour strongly implies to me like he's mafia and whenever he tries to act all "hoshiro-like", his partner is stepping in during day time to tell him to chill the fuck out... and then hoshiro is all quiet again... until he gets the urge to post again...
Basically hoshiro's previous gameplay was about trolling and having fun... now he feels less "fun type" and more "i need to be careful" type... So i'd wager he's acting mafia like... But again, until further intel is presented somehow from posts and shit, i can't fucking read his mind to figure out if being coy or dumb lol...

Did that cover everyone in game? or are there others you didn't post about?


Right now, that's all the shit i can see. I could be wrong. hell i probably am right now about a lot of things... but this game is about patience. Sometimes u gotta wait for the right posts and then BAM. Pull a brett tactic like he counter claimed sooo many ppl before... good times, we need to get brett in the next game, and kill him day 2, just to give him that little hope and bitch slap him with it :D

[Assassin]

unvote
Vote Zambi
After re reading he really does seem to be flip flopping a lot.

[Sin]

No read on Blade, Cyber? Considering you quoted his post, it seems a little strange you'd leave him out of your well thought out "ISOs".

Not really ISO but still. Close enough.

I believe everyone should consider reading back through the thread and with their next post, giving all of us feedback on what you think of each player. I'll be working on mine today.

[Trigger Unhappy]

Guys , with assassin voting it will take one more vote to hammer zambi.

[hoshiro-]

Like i said before, the only reason I havent posted much lately is because ive been busy with work so I dont really have much time to read through it, I was finnaly able to catch up on reading the rest of the post last night but I got tired and went to sleep early because I had a pt test this morning, lol I love you 2 cyber <3
For now im just observing and trying to learn how to read each persons personality so i dont really wanna vote yet. Ill post more later after work

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Sorry bad guys, I lied. I will not be hammering zambi.

[hoshiro-]

All these terminology that I'm little brain cant understand.

vote ass
I feel like all his vote's reasons are very superficial

[Passarelli]

Sorry bad guys, I lied. I will not be hammering zambi.

Lynch all liars!!!

Unvote
Vote Mikey

Just kidding Mikey ;p

Unvote

Sin, when I get a chance a little later today, I'll go ahead and do that for you.

[Sin]

Also, remember guys, and this is something I need to get better at realizing.

EFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENT!

(Large walls of text incoming later in the day, please hold off on hammering until everyone gets their feedback to us. Patience is a virtue.)

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Be mindful if a hammer takes place prior to feedback coming through (Minus the few who have already given theirs Blade and Cyber off the top of my head), you will most likely be focused come day 2. So don't be a faggot.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Unvote

There, now no one can hammer.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Unvote

There, now no one can hammer.

No one was going to regardless. Sucks eh? Being evil and already having your vote up?

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Your mr good guy play didnt give me a chubby, I wont fall for that.

[BladeTwinSwords]

No one was going to regardless. Sucks eh? Being evil and already having your vote up?

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Your mr good guy play didnt give me a chubby, I wont fall for that.

Fuck, you found me out. Welp, I'm dead. :reddot:

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

vote zambi

Now blade. Dont be a debby and ruin thia for everyone. The balls in your court now.

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I.e. my last fos now has no votes and has to choose between being hammer or waiting for town to post there fos reports.

Additionally, im 90% certain no one will sneak hammer. Even though I think we should commit to lynching zambi.

[BladeTwinSwords]

To vote....or not to vote....

[Nemesis]

Current Vote Count:
Zambi - 6 Votes (1 more)
Assassin - 3 Votes (4 more)
Blade - 1 Vote (6 more)

[I'm a zambi]

:chillpill:

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but since I know no one's going to change their vote, go ahead. Just know you're making a mistake. :violin:

[Passarelli]

I've color coded how suspicious I am of people for everyone (except Mikey's) enjoyment.

1. Phil - Claimed VT. Most likely correct, but he still smells.
2. Assassin - Claimed Town (whoopie!). Pretty suspicious overall.
3. Minjae - Very suspicious. Most likely scum. Has been way too quiet.
4. Sin - Most likely town sided. SK is possible but unlikely.
5. Mikey - Townie.
6. Scribble - Very suspect. He was silent except for votes until Phil and Zambi claimed then tried to move the conversation away from them. When compared to the previous game, it is neigh identical. 90% sure either Mafia or SK.
7.Trigger Unhappy - Slightly suspicious. Hasn't said anything very useful but seems town sided.
8. Blade - Very suspect. Moved votes around willy nilly.
10. I'm a zambi - Claimed VT. Probably correct but he could be SK or intentionally trolling his partner as Scum.
11. Cyber - Most likely town.
12. Hosh - Very suspicious. Most likely scum. Has been way too quiet.

I have thoughts on who our power roles could be (one or two of them are 50/50 either scum or power role) but I chose not to list that as I don't want them targeted at night.

I still think our best bet would be to vote Phil or Zambi as they are the two that claimed roles. One or both could be lying, we wouldn't hit a power role, and we would not increase the chances of a power role getting hit at night any further then they already are. Since I trust Phil much more at the moment, that is why I removed my vote for him. He still smells though.

The only other people I would be willing to vote right now is Scribble and possibly Blade.

[Nemesis]

I was going to say that using colours for anything but voting is against the rules, but then I remembered Mikey is colour blind and is probably confused as fuck. That's hilarious so carry on. Just try to distinguish any votes from the main text so I can find them.

[I'm a zambi]

I would keep my eyes on Assassin, Minjae, Blade and Hosh, unsure of SCRIBBLE and Trigger. I think everyone else is innocent.

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I was going to say that using colours for anything but voting is against the rules, but then I remembered Mikey is colour blind and is probably confused as fuck. That's hilarious so carry on. Just try to distinguish any votes from the main text so I can find them.
LOL. Basically Mikey, Pass thinks that:

Phil and you are in the clear,
Sin and Cyber are likely town,
Trigger is in the middle,
Assassin and I are suspicious,
Hosh is more suspicious,
Blade even more,
and finally SCRIBBLE as most suspicious

if I'm reading the color codes correctly, which I think I am?

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Forgot to list Minjae* tied with Hosh for suspicion, apparently

correct me if I'm wrong, that's what I took from your post!

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Also, if I had to knock one of those out of my suspicions list, it'd probably be Blade or Hosh.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

:chillpill:

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but since I know no one's going to change their vote, go ahead. Just know you're making a mistake. :violin:

Why is it a mistake? It would only be a miatake if you were a power role.....

[Passarelli]

Stop making things easy for Mikey! Q.Q

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Zambi... nemesis Is not a player in this game. He is the moderator......

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I retract this post. The colors have me dazed.

[I'm a zambi]

I know, lol.

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Why is it a mistake? It would only be a miatake if you were a power role.....
I guess. Lynching town is still counter-productive though.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I know, lol.

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I guess. Lynching town is still counter-productive though.
Why have you played so scummy up until now?
If you really are town.

[Trigger Unhappy]

I've color coded how suspicious I am of people for everyone (except Mikey's) enjoyment.

1. Phil - Claimed VT. Most likely correct, but he still smells.
2. Assassin - Claimed Town (whoopie!). Pretty suspicious overall.
3. Minjae - Very suspicious. Most likely scum. Has been way too quiet.
4. Sin - Most likely town sided. SK is possible but unlikely.
5. Mikey - Townie.
6. Scribble - Very suspect. He was silent except for votes until Phil and Zambi claimed then tried to move the conversation away from them. When compared to the previous game, it is neigh identical. 90% sure either Mafia or SK.
7.Trigger Unhappy - Slightly suspicious. Hasn't said anything very useful but seems town sided.
8. Blade - Very suspect. Moved votes around willy nilly.
10. I'm a zambi - Claimed VT. Probably correct but he could be SK or intentionally trolling his partner as Scum.
11. Cyber - Most likely town.
12. Hosh - Very suspicious. Most likely scum. Has been way too quiet.

I have thoughts on who our power roles could be (one or two of them are 50/50 either scum or power role) but I chose not to list that as I don't want them targeted at night.

I still think our best bet would be to vote Phil or Zambi as they are the two that claimed roles. One or both could be lying, we wouldn't hit a power role, and we would not increase the chances of a power role getting hit at night any further then they already are. Since I trust Phil much more at the moment, that is why I removed my vote for him. He still smells though.

The only other people I would be willing to vote right now is Scribble and possibly Blade.


Alright here is my list (not color coded)
1. Phil - Close to being lynched earlier. Was ok with being sacrificed ( claimed VT) 95% sure he is VT at this point
2. Assassin - Other than claiming town hasnt really provided much. Also... not sure why he claimed town so damn early. (Page 17) I have been suspicious of him based on how he is playing. I have voted and will keep my vote on him.
3. Minjae - Meta Analysis - Playing the same he did last game when he was Mafia. Uninvolved, not playing alot. scummy
4. Sin - Town sided - and knowledgable about the game. Would be willing to follow his lead on voting.
5. Mikey - Pass had him as town... I'm 60% sure he is correct, but not really sure. Can't really get a read on him.
6. Scribble - As others have said, he is more involved this game than usual. Doesn't really indicate anything.. I have been mafia with him before and he was lurking a lot. Might be SK??
7.Trigger Unhappy - I'm fucking adorable.
8. Blade - where to start... I am suspicious of blade, 2nd most to Assassin. It started when he immediately took his vote off Phil from a generic defense. Add that to the fact that he was providing incorrect information about NK (unintentionally?) ... Just getting a scummy vibe.
10. I'm a zambi - ... Vt most likely... Town probably wont miss him if he gets voted today. Don't understand why he seems to be following blade.
11. Cyber - Been too busy to comment much, havent been able to get a feel for him. As of now I would not vote for him.
12. Hosh - scummy- (always scummy though)
13. Pass- Most likely town sided.

[I'm a zambi]

10. I'm a zambi - ... Vt most likely...
Correct.


Town probably wont miss him if he gets voted today.
Thanks.

Don't understand why he seems to be following blade. [/QUOTE]
I haven't been following anyone, just myself.

[Passarelli]

13. Pass- Most likely town sided.

I'm number 9 asshat.

[I'm a zambi]

Don't understand why he seems to be following blade.
Mmm, I keep missing these tags.

[Assassin]

I find it amazing that people always vote for me when I say anything. I have done nothing even remotely scummy. I am a townie, if you want to lynch me, go for it, but you will lose a townie. Not a substantial one, but just saying.

[Passarelli]

Assassin, claiming VT when you are in no danger of getting lynched is anti town.

[Trigger Unhappy]

Assassin, claiming VT when you are in no danger of getting lynched is anti town.

Which I was so cofused he did it.

Also you will be whatever number I assign you slave.

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God damn I hate phone.

" Which is why I was so confused he did it"

[Assassin]

Assassin, claiming VT when you are in no danger of getting lynched is anti town.

Actually I voted for someone, after being afk at work and 11 pages in (you guys talk a bunch btw) and then defended me being a town with my claim bc someone voted me.

[BladeTwinSwords]

If you all honestly don't believe me, then have the Dietician search me. You will come up empty.

[Trigger Unhappy]

yeah I think it was Pass that voted for you. But if you notice, only Phil and Nambi have claimed, other than you. Both of them did so at the end to not get hammered. You threw out that information after 1 person voted for you.

So when I say you are suspicious, its because of that. It's the only overtly suspicious/confusing thing I've seen so far. That action just made no sense to me.

[minjae]

I've been just reading, as I have no input right now. I already said I'm voting for zambi. I don't know what else to say at this point.
I guess I'll make a list like everyone else.
No matter how I play, it's apparently scummy. I'm playing how I, minjae, play, for now. I'm just trying to figure out who's who without putting it out there.

(All based on me not knowing much of everyone's play style..it's a see as I go thing)
1. Phil - I think he's clean from his recent comments/inputs, as in he's a VT.
2. Assassin - He seems clean too, but with his last comment, I dunno. He could be anti-town.
3. Minjae - Think whatever floats your boat.
4. Sin - Seems like he's VT.
5. Mikey - Clean. VT.
6. Scribble - He has been really active which is weird. But with last game he did his 'AFK' thing. So I'm drawing a blank. He is fishy as well.
7.Trigger Unhappy - Not adorable. That's a lie. Scummy? No. Conceited? Yes.
8. Blade - I feel he may be VT. I don't really know as of yet.
9. Pass - I think he's VT as well. But I don't know yet.
10. I'm a zambi - My vote is still on him. I'm thinking he's SK orrrr?
11. Cyber - He's too busy for us in real life. Scummy? LOL jk jk.
12. Hosh - He has been pretty quiet. But I don't find that scummy. Fishy yeah. Not scummy. I think he's clean.

All this can change, obviously.

[SCRIBBLE]

Pass is 90% sure I am scum, but does not vote for me.

Hosh, zambi, or blade. Think it is time to move to night? I will hammer zambi if need be.

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Pass, I never tried to move the conversation away from zambi and I was also the first person to claim Phil as scum.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Ok, before I make my list I want to know what the hell it is im doing that gives you all a town read on me? Like.. no one suspects me at all.... im ki da pissed as typically everyone is gunning for me TT.

Also, only cleared people on my list are well, myself ofc and. No one. Except sin, he dropped my real name. No one drops my real name.... no one.

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Oh, scribbs is most deff town. He would be lurking and uninvolved like all his maf and anti town games.

[Passarelli]

One person voting you does not put you in danger of being lynched. Up till your previous post where you hinted that you were not a power role (though town sided) you were fine. You weren't even at the tipping point, let alone in danger of being quick hammered. At this point it seems like you are trying to get an early claim so you look better late game.

You have 3 votes for you Assassin, with 7 to lynch you were completely safe until you have 5 votes. At that point, if neither scum mafia had voted they could quick hammer (though that would be hugely beneficial to town).

Trigger, the only person I have voted for this entire game is Phil. Well, I voted Mikey then unvoted in the same post as a joke.

[Trigger Unhappy]

PAss- my bad, I looked at page 16 and saw the red in your comment. Mistook it for a vote.

[I'm a zambi]

yeah I think it was Pass that voted for you. But if you notice, only Phil and Nambi have claimed, other than you. Both of them did so at the end to not get hammered. You threw out that information after 1 person voted for you.

So when I say you are suspicious, its because of that. It's the only overtly suspicious/confusing thing I've seen so far. That action just made no sense to me.
This.


Oh, scribbs is most deff town. He would be lurking and uninvolved like all his maf and anti town games.
Wouldn't he know you'd expect that?

[Assassin]

Well I guess it is what is then, How can you defend yourself on the first day when nothing has happend, I guess is what confuses me the most. If you say nothing you're scum, if you talk to much, you're scum. I have nothing viable to put in or help with, and go with what I feel is appropriate by other peoples actions.

[Passarelli]

Oh, scribbs is most deff town. He would be lurking and uninvolved like all his maf and anti town games.

Mikey, he was active day 1 in the last game late in the day after the first wagon derailed.


Scribbles, I've held off my vote thus far because I seem to be alone in my suspicion of you. A fos is sufficient to let people know I don't trust you.
I was slightly mistaken. The wagon for Zambi was just getting started--however the wagon for Phil had just derailed and you pretty much immediately became way more active and started gunning for Blade. That said, if Blade is scum, I doubt you are since you switched immediatly to him.

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Well I guess it is what is then, How can you defend yourself on the first day when nothing has happend, I guess is what confuses me the most. If you say nothing you're scum, if you talk to much, you're scum. I have nothing viable to put in or help with, and go with what I feel is appropriate by other peoples actions.

Assassin, I'd suggest reading this (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=A_Beginner%27s_Guide_to_Being_Awes ome_At_Mafia) as well as this (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=A_Beginner%27s_Guide_to_Claiming).

[I'm a zambi]

Well I guess it is what is then, How can you defend yourself on the first day when nothing has happend, I guess is what confuses me the most. If you say nothing you're scum, if you talk to much, you're scum. I have nothing viable to put in or help with, and go with what I feel is appropriate by other peoples actions.
This was the problem I brought up earlier - I'll see if I can find the post.

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Here we go ...


Well it's not that I'm okay with it, I just see it's headed that direction. And since anything I say is going to be psychoanalyzed to death it's kind of a futile effort to resist, since resisting will be psychoanalyzed as well. I really, honestly, have no clue where Mikey's revelation that I was working with Blade came into play but that would be an interesting twist.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Where my townies at? The gamebis being run by evil man eaters atm... need some help to restablish order again, again, I repeat need help!

[I'm a zambi]

Since I'm going to be lynched anyway, why not just hammer it now? You guys have had the chance for a while now.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Since I'm going to be lynched anyway, why not just hammer it now? You guys have had the chance for a while now.

Because one of the following

Bad guys are already voting for you.
Bad guys cant hammer after what I did with the vote switcheroo with blade.

I pretty much bought town time to out there fos list before we proceed with a lynch.

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Orrrr the last and most likley case... you are a bad guy and they dont want to vote you

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So here is how this works zambi. I managed to get my vote in on you without hammering and getting blade to unvote. Blades my biggest fos atm. Bad guys cant hammer because they will give themselves away and town is well.. town and will wait until we are ready as a group.

Win win chicken din.

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This also goees to show that blade who was all confident with a vote on you, is now reluctent to speak or commit to wanting to vote for you.

Lots of swaying from left to right going on in this place. Stinks like phil but worse... there are more phils. Phil, is your smell contagious?

[Trigger Unhappy]

um what does fos stand for? I guess full of shit - but I doubt thats correct.

[minjae]

Finger of suspicion.

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I think. I'm pretty sure that's what it is.

[BladeTwinSwords]

It's not that I'm confident, it's just I prefer for everyone to get their opinions in.

[I'm a zambi]

Orrrr the last and most likley case... you are a bad guy and they dont want to vote you
You are so convinced that I'm mafia ... :lmao:


So here is how this works zambi. I managed to get my vote in on you without hammering and getting blade to unvote. Blades my biggest fos atm. Bad guys cant hammer because they will give themselves away and town is well.. town and will wait until we are ready as a group.
If Blade unvoted, that is a little odd from my perspective. Since I'm VT, and Mafia clearly know who they are, Blade moving his vote if he were mafia would be extremely suspicious to anyone who thinks I'm mafia. If he did move his vote, that would point to me being mafia at the cost of himself, and if you were right (which you weren't) would mean both mafia are knocked out on day 1. If hadn't moved, he knows I'm VT anyway and he would have had a free kill via lynch. I'd be more suspicious if he stayed, to be honest.


This also goees to show that blade who was all confident with a vote on you, is now reluctent to speak or commit to wanting to vote for you.
The silence is a little disconcerting but he has also stated he's busy.

Not sure if my reasoning made sense - I'm a little mindfucked myself at this point with the whole WIFOM thing and I may have missed a detail.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I dont think you come even remotley close to understanding why the bad guys do not want to be the hammer.
Besides, town is commited to this ml now. We should jot and will not change. You claimed vt yet you are passivly softing you may be pr by calling youtself townie instead of what you claimed.

[Trigger Unhappy]

Actually I disagree Zambi. If blade is mafia he basically just unvoted so that you wouldnt get lynched. thus trying to describe himself as town. Mikey by voting directly afterwards has put blade in a position where he now has to follow through with lynching you, or waffling. He seemed to be very confident earlier. Now.. If blade isnt mafia then this strategy doesnt work, but Mikey , I think, is using this to guage Blade's reaction and alignment. (Mikey please tell me if I'm close to the mark)

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Actually I disagree Zambi. If blade is mafia he basically just unvoted so that you wouldnt get lynched. thus trying to describe himself as town. Mikey by voting directly afterwards has put blade in a position where he now has to follow through with lynching you, or waffling. He seemed to be very confident earlier. Now.. If blade isnt mafia then this strategy doesnt work, but Mikey , I think, is using this to guage Blade's reaction and alignment. (Mikey please tell me if I'm close to the mark)

Ding ding ding. You win todays meal. Mountain snow with sizzled rocks.

[Trigger Unhappy]

ding ding ding. You win todays meal. Mountain snow with sizzled rocks.

my favy!!!

[BladeTwinSwords]

I will keep mass unvoting/voting because I want to!

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I don't come to much in terms of conclusions Day 1 unless someone really fucks up.

[Passarelli]

Mikey, that is likely because he is new and doesn't realize he should continue calling himself a VT. I'm just waiting for the last few people to post their thoughts before I hammer. I'm going to be gone for a few hours to go eat with the family--hopefully that last few stragglers will be done by the time I return. If not, hopefully by tomorrow--unless more useful discussion takes place without more people claiming for no reason >_>

We are waiting on lists from who? I think it is:
Phil, Assassin, Sin, Mikey, Scribble, Hosh

[I'm a zambi]

There are 5 possible Outcomes for Blade's vote (as far as I'm aware):

Blade is mafia, Zambi is mafia

1. Blade changes his vote:
Blade moving his vote casts suspicion on himself indirectly and results in a futile effort to avoid lynching a teammate who is going to die anyway, knocking them both out at once since, once Zambi is revealed mafia, the suspicion is all placed on Blade for having moved his vote - lose/lose

2. Blade keeps his vote:
Blade keeps his vote as is, screwing over an already fucked teammate. Once outed, the fact that Blade didn't move his vote works for him since he appears to be town, hammering someone who is believed by up to six (likely four or five) other people to be mafia - win/lose, he loses a teammate but gains trust of town


Blade is mafia, Zambi is town


3. Blade changes his vote:
This again casts suspicion on Blade since the majority of town believes that Zambi mafia, but Blade knows Zambi is town, there would be no reason to change his vote since he would get a 2-for-1 for the night kill, - lose/lose, suspicion is cast, and a townie potentially avoids getting lynched

4. Blade keeps his vote:
Since the majority of town believe Zambi is mafia, Blade would be considered one of the many townies who believe Zambi is mafia, he knocks out a VT and has an opportunity to kill during night, resulting in a win/win

Blade is town, Zambi is unknown
5. Blade changing his vote is still suspicious since most everyone seems to think Zambi is mafia, but since in this instance he is town, he could be unvoting simply because he doesn’t want to hammer, for the same reason you gave - draw, result could go either way

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This assumes if Blade is mafia he knows whether or not I'm mafia, which I'm led to believe is the case ... ?

[BladeTwinSwords]

I just hope people realize what I'm trying to do.

[Assassin]

I see now why I should've waited a bit longer but I don't think I've actually been doing that badly all else considered.

[I'm a zambi]

From that, I get an innocent vibe from Blade, rather than a guilty one. It seems a bit out of place to remove the vote if he's mafia.

[Passarelli]

Mafia know their partners and can speak to them during the day. (This is usually not the case. Mafia can usually only speak at night.)

[BladeTwinSwords]

Zambi, I'm pretty sure you're not mafia but someone has to take the fall.

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You are the most suspicious of anyone so you will probably end up being the target.

[I'm a zambi]

Since I'm correct in that assumption, doesn't what I just posted negate suspicion on Blade?

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Zambi, I'm pretty sure you're not mafia but someone has to take the fall.
Indeed. :violin:


You are the most suspicious of anyone so you will probably end up being the target.
I have no doubt.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Since I'm correct in that assumption, doesn't what I just posted negate suspicion on Blade?

Not even remotely. I will probably be investigated, come back Not Cannibal and then everything about me is thrown out the window and we waste a day for nothing.

[I'm a zambi]

Not even remotely. I will probably be investigated, come back Not Cannibal and then everything about me is thrown out the window and we waste a day for nothing.
lol - lynching me would be a waste of a day as well, honestly - but I guess you guys need your tributee

[BladeTwinSwords]

lol - lynching me would be a waste of a day as well, honestly - but I guess you guys need your tributee

I'm more worried about all the power roles using their abilities on one person.

[Sin]

1. Phillatio - Had condemning interactions early-game. Lots of filler. Got defensive as soon as someone made a serious mention of him being scum. Has a town "tone" when posting, probably because he's asian. Possible SK/Most likely Town. Sheep.

2. Assassin - Has had condemning interactions throughout the game. Quick voted without explanation after "RVS" was over. Possibly being coached, poorly. Seems as though he's given up. Comes off as depressed. Possible Mafia Affiliation. Sheep.

3. Minjae - No condemning interactions, though his lack of original thought and input shines through his font. Not confident in expressing his opinions about other. Probably has mommy issues. Town read. Sheep.

4. Sin - Fucking amazing. CONFIRMED TOWN.

5. Mikey - Has had condemning interactions throughout the game. Quick voted Blade without definitive reason; rookie mistake. Has confused rules/abbreviations from different sites multiple times, no evidence of scum tactics just Mikey being Mikey. May have slipped in various posts. Lots of filler. Jumped on Zambi wagon trying to divert attention towards Blade, when attention was already on Blade. Scum tone. Possible SK.

6. Scribble - Condemning interactions early-game. Lots of filler. Gameplay changed drastically from early to mid-game Day 1. Possible Mafia Affiliation.

7. Trigger Unhappy - No condemning interactions. Some "fake" votes. Town tone.

8. Blade - I've said all I need to say about him. Complete disregard for towns mission of fishing out scum by painting a target on himself. IF Town-Aligned, Mafia will keep him in play. He is the "Nemesis" of this game. This guy is fucking scum. Most likely to win the Faggiest SK/Town Ever Award.

9. Pass - No condemning interactions. Brought up valid points when pressed for answers. Asks the right questions. Town tone.

10. I'm a zambi - Not Confirmed Town. Too many condemning interactions. Early-game joking switched to panicked defenses across various pages. For a new player his gameplay has focused and he is beginning to think for himself in the latter stages of Day 1, which brings up the concern of being coached. Town tone, but would vote him if necessary just to not lynch a power role. The Artist formerly known as Sheep.


11. Cyber - No condemning interactions. Not trying to meta him. Comes off as coaching, someone. Fishiest player of the game besides Blade. Voted Trigger Early, and in same post stated he wanted to Vote Scribble. Possible Headcoach slip? Using unoriginal excuse, and overly concerned with people suspecting him of lurking. Comes off as scum playing town. Possible Mafia Affiliation.

12. Hosh - No condemning posts. Stuck to his word on voting. Asked some good questions. Came up with original thoughts, proving useful. In general comes off as Town, but possible scum evasion and generic inactivity tactics. Possibly being coached.

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Also, just to remind everyone, veterans included:

Day 1(D1) lynches are usually town. If you know that you're town you should want to stay alive and if you're concerned about your image maybe you should play better the following day. We're not going to auto lynch you just because you were on this wagon, that would be stupid and lazy.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

1. Phillatio - Had condemning interactions early-game. Lots of filler. Got defensive as soon as someone made a serious mention of him being scum. Has a town "tone" when posting, probably because he's asian. Possible SK/Most likely Town. Sheep.

2. Assassin - Has had condemning interactions throughout the game. Quick voted without explanation after "RVS" was over. Possibly being coached, poorly. Seems as though he's given up. Comes off as depressed. Possible Mafia Affiliation. Sheep.

3. Minjae - No condemning interactions, though his lack of original thought and input shines through his font. Not confident in expressing his opinions about other. Probably has mommy issues. Town read. Sheep.

4. Sin - Fucking amazing. CONFIRMED TOWN.

5. Mikey - Has had condemning interactions throughout the game. Quick voted Blade without definitive reason; rookie mistake. Has confused rules/abbreviations from different sites multiple times, no evidence of scum tactics just Mikey being Mikey. May have slipped in various posts. Lots of filler. Jumped on Zambi wagon trying to divert attention towards Blade, when attention was already on Blade. Scum tone. Possible SK.

6. Scribble - Condemning interactions early-game. Lots of filler. Gameplay changed drastically from early to mid-game Day 1. Possible Mafia Affiliation.

7. Trigger Unhappy - No condemning interactions. Some "fake" votes. Town tone.

8. Blade - I've said all I need to say about him. Complete disregard for towns mission of fishing out scum by painting a target on himself. IF Town-Aligned, Mafia will keep him in play. He is the "Nemesis" of this game. This guy is fucking scum. Most likely to win the Faggiest SK/Town Ever Award.

9. Pass - No condemning interactions. Brought up valid points when pressed for answers. Asks the right questions. Town tone.

10. I'm a zambi - Not Confirmed Town. Too many condemning interactions. Early-game joking switched to panicked defenses across various pages. For a new player his gameplay has focused and he is beginning to think for himself in the latter stages of Day 1, which brings up the concern of being coached. Town tone, but would vote him if necessary just to not lynch a power role. The Artist formerly known as Sheep.


11. Cyber - No condemning interactions. Not trying to meta him. Comes off as coaching, someone. Fishiest player of the game besides Blade. Voted Trigger Early, and in same post stated he wanted to Vote Scribble. Possible Headcoach slip? Using unoriginal excuse, and overly concerned with people suspecting him of lurking. Comes off as scum playing town. Possible Mafia Affiliation.

12. Hosh - No condemning posts. Stuck to his word on voting. Asked some good questions. Came up with original thoughts, proving useful. In general comes off as Town, but possible scum evasion and generic inactivity tactics. Possibly being coached.

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Also, just to remind everyone, veterans included:

Day 1(D1) lynches are usually town. If you know that you're town you should want to stay alive and if you're concerned about your image maybe you should play better the following day. We're not going to auto lynch you just because you were on this wagon, that would be stupid and lazy.

It was not a simple quick lynch on blade, it was a lynch with nothing added to hunt reactions. Those reactions are part of the reason we are at our current empasse. You know better then most here. Why misinform people about the true itent behind some of my actions?

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Also, I have already explained reasonings behind blade and zambi. Go back and re read. What filler?

I mean, I was only sorta of joking when I said you were sk. But I am not even sure anymore. To think you soft claimed and now this.

[BladeTwinSwords]

I have done my job well.

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By that I mean being Nemesis. You gotta have that one asshole player.

[Sin]

Mikey, I'm going to ISO a few of your posts here for further review. See below:


Can we get a vote count plea. Kthx
Also, people.... Note reactions to votes. How people react to being voted.
Look at those who appear to be trying hard when tryhards are not necessary.

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My current read? We have a bunch of tasty townies playing patty cake on a forum thread.

Great pro-tip above, althought the WAY that you chose to go about it is indicative of lazy reaction testing. This isn't EpicMafia, where you can track votes in the chat and respond IMMEDIATELY to them. In a forum setup you need more, a town play would ALWAYS include backing/reasoning for a vote, Mikey. What I did was a great reaction test, by the way you reacted.

The second part of this quote is filler and possible projection of your cannibalistic ways.



Why are you getting defensive over my post?

Yeah Mikey, why are you getting defensive over my post?


as i always like to never say...
I fos everyone so therefore i am at least 100% correct that at least one of them is maf.

Why say it then? Lazy at best, anti-town at worst.


You dont tell me what to do serial killer. Im sexy and I know it.

Filler and projection?


Sigh.

This game is going to be tough.
If killer and maf can joint win, we absoutly have to kill one by end of day tmrw. Otherwise pray one dies at night.

Im not personally getting a scum read off phil but I will have to go over all the posts when I get home from work.

This game IS tough. Why would you even think that they could joint-win? Trying to lead people into meaningless banter like you did with the NK/NK debacle last night?

You didn't even go over all of the posts when you got home, and if you didn't you didn't update us with your thoughts. Scum trying to look town? Possibly.



Unless they thought both quick lynching phil would hammer... lawl but it didnt phil atill needs one vote. Look at the last sentence in there vote posts, is as if they anticipated the day to end.

Good work here. Would read again.


I am still suspicous of blade. Will be back after I get home from work in about 2 hours.

I dont think we should stall this anymore, we have a ml and we should stick with who we plan to lynch. Further pushing will result in more role claims and the more vts the enemy knows the larger percentage the enemy will hit a valuable asset too town.

At first you cast your suspicion. You then go on to state you will be gone for 2 hours, but you want to get to a mislynch before you even disappear? All of this knowing full well town would possibly be out (4) votes going into Day 2. To quote you "are you mad?" - Mikey 2014


Keep in mine the night phase. There is a possibility 4 townies die tonight, best case scenario only 2. We wont know if they were townies either.

See ^ for my response.


Sorry bad guys, I lied. I will not be hammering zambi.

Filler. Also, you all of a sudden no longer want to rush a mislynch on a "claimed" townie? What's with the switcheroo?


vote zambi

Now blade. Dont be a debby and ruin thia for everyone. The balls in your court now.

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I.e. my last fos now has no votes and has to choose between being hammer or waiting for town to post there fos reports.

Additionally, im 90% certain no one will sneak hammer. Even though I think we should commit to lynching zambi.

This logic is weird. Blade had already unvoted, Zambi. Why does it matter to TOWN, if YOU put Zambi back to L-1? Anyone could have done it. Blade is smart enough not to hammer anyway, and smart enough to jump off of a wagon on a potential townie. You putting Zambie back to L-1 means shit.

That being said, kids. THAT is how you reaction test in a forum game format.

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I'm more worried about all the power roles using their abilities on one person.

Don't worry about what the PR's choose to do, and stop trying to impact their decisions you cretin fuck.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Mikey, I'm going to ISO a few of your posts here for further review. See below:



Great pro-tip above, althought the WAY that you chose to go about it is indicative of lazy reaction testing. This isn't EpicMafia, where you can track votes in the chat and respond IMMEDIATELY to them. In a forum setup you need more, a town play would ALWAYS include backing/reasoning for a vote, Mikey. What I did was a great reaction test, by the way you reacted.

The second part of this quote is filler and possible projection of your cannibalistic ways.



Yeah Mikey, why are you getting defensive over my post?



Why say it then? Lazy at best, anti-town at worst.



Filler and projection?



This game IS tough. Why would you even think that they could joint-win? Trying to lead people into meaningless banter like you did with the NK/NK debacle last night?

You didn't even go over all of the posts when you got home, and if you didn't you didn't update us with your thoughts. Scum trying to look town? Possibly.




Good work here. Would read again.



At first you cast your suspicion. You then go on to state you will be gone for 2 hours, but you want to get to a mislynch before you even disappear? All of this knowing full well town would possibly be out (4) votes going into Day 2. To quote you "are you mad?" - Mikey 2014



See ^ for my response.



Filler. Also, you all of a sudden no longer want to rush a mislynch on a "claimed" townie? What's with the switcheroo?



This logic is weird. Blade had already unvoted, Zambi. Why does it matter to TOWN, if YOU put Zambi back to L-1? Anyone could have done it. Blade is smart enough not to hammer anyway, and smart enough to jump off of a wagon on a potential townie. You putting Zambie back to L-1 means shit.

That being said, kids. THAT is how you reaction test in a forum game format.

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Don't worry about what the PR's choose to do, and stop trying to impact their decisions you cretin fuck.

hardly reaction testing as you misinterpreted more than half of what im saying in those posts. Im not defensive, simply clearing up some of your hystarical ideas forming from posts I have made.

Trigger deduced my reasoning with the zambie and blade voting part, did you miss it?

Additionally, by not stalling I implied that we should stick with who we want to ml and stop derailing votes and picking new votes. That leads to mass defense claims which hurt town. I personally beilive prolonging day phases as long as we typically do, is a double edged sword and people should be aware of that.

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Also, by doing what I did I managed to stall a potential hammer so everyone had a chance to post there fos lists. Town has control over votes atm, its a win.

[Sin]

hardly reaction testing as you misinterpreted more than half of what im saying in those posts. Im not defensive, simply clearing up some of your hystarical ideas forming from posts I have made.

Trigger deduced my reasoning with the zambie and blade voting part, did you miss it?

Additionally, by not stalling I implied that we should stick with who we want to ml and stop derailing votes and picking new votes. That leads to mass defense claims which hurt town. I personally beilive prolonging day phases as long as we typically do, is a double edged sword and people should be aware of that.

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Also, by doing what I did I managed to stall a potential hammer so everyone had a chance to post there fos lists. Town has control over votes atm, its a win.

What's to misinterpret in your post repetoire? It's all there. Like I stated, you don't reaction test by making a post like "vote Dickface" or "unvote". This isn't fucking EM it doesn't work that way in forum format. You'd get laughed at on mafiascum using THAT to test someone's reaction, and it's a poor example to give newer players to this forum format game. It's lazy.

You are defensive, why are you arguing semantics?

What Trigger "deduced" was shit. If Blade is Mafia, he wouldn't hammer not only because he's an experienced player, or the fact HE UNVOTED prior to YOU getting on the Zambi wagon, but because I had already warned everyone of Hammering Zambi before you even came up with your little "plan".

So by not stalling you "implied" that we should continue the wagon to fruition? You wanted to get to the night phase, just fucking admit it.

I got the reaction I needed out of you with my post. Waiting for others now.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Lol the 100% correct post was mocking blades obvious post.
What else, im trying to respond to this from my phone while working. Ill cover any missed inquiries when I get home.

Let see, no longer feeling like ending the day part. I saw an oppertunity to put blade into a position where I could either condem my biggest fos or clear it.

The joint win thing is a possibility, despite it being generally used in em ranked games. As far as not posting further after getting home, I didnt have anything to post after reviewing. I still felt that phil was not scummy and saw nothing else to sway my opinion at the time. Therefore there was no need to add more to what I had all ready determined.

Should be all the replies to all your inquiries.

[Sin]

Lol the 100% correct post was mocking blades obvious post.

What are you referring to here?



Let see, no longer feeling like ending the day part. I saw an oppertunity to put blade into a position where I could either condem my biggest fos or clear it.

Please tell me how you could CLEAR Blade of his scumminess with this Zambi wagon. I want to hear it from you.



The joint win thing is a possibility, despite it being generally used in em ranked games. As far as not posting further after getting home, I didnt have anything to post after reviewing. I still felt that phil was not scummy and saw nothing else to sway my opinion at the time. Therefore there was no need to add more to what I had all ready determined.

Once again this isn't EpicMafia. If you cared about this game you would have read the initial sign-up thread where Nemesis stated the win percentages for Town/SK/Maf.

As a townie, when you make a post and say you're going to do something, stick to your fucking word you sack of cat dicks.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

What are you referring to here?



Please tell me how you could CLEAR Blade of his scumminess with this Zambi wagon. I want to hear it from you.



Once again this isn't EpicMafia. If you cared about this game you would have read the initial sign-up thread where Nemesis stated the win percentages for Town/SK/Maf.

As a townie, when you make a post and say you're going to do something, stick to your fucking word you sack of cat dicks.

Generally do stick and commit to what I see... actually id say, on some occasion, too much.

As for the first part, I was reffering to blades post on that same page, like 2 posts above mine. Again, on my phone, difficult.

I did read the initial sign up thread and even recall telling someone during this game to read it as well....
As far as clearing blade. No, I would not be able to clear blade. However, deducing his alignment with the chance of a slip or reaction. I could determine if my fos was worth sticking too or if I should lay off.


Im fully aware that he could simply not hammer and if blade is cannible, it works for us because id predict he wouldnt be stupid enough to hammer. As a result, town can take time outting there fos lists and when town is ready we can vote zambi off the mountain.

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Again, blade would not be cleared, like cop outs report on inno cleared, just less scummy.

[Sin]

Mikey... I'm going to stay calm.

What I'm trying to tell you is... you did nothing. Changed nothing that wasn't already in the works. You can't clear or confirm Blade by doing a Vote count analysis. You can't. The only way to confirm Blade is to lynch him (hence my vote STILL ON BLADE).

What you did was prace around in your little princess dress(your recognition from Trigger) showing off your Dollar Store Tiara(your vote on Zambi and post thereafter/your "plan"?), for nothing.

Nothing was gained OR lost from you putting Zambi to L-1. He was at L-2 when Blade unvoted. Your "reaction test" wasn't even a fucking reaction test BECAUSE BLADE UNVOTED YOU FUCK!

NO ONE WAS GOING TO HAMMER AFTER MY POST ABOUT HAMMERING!!!!!!!!

You even said so HERE:


No one was going to regardless. Sucks eh? Being evil and already having your vote up?

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Your mr good guy play didnt give me a chubby, I wont fall for that.

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Again, blade would not be cleared, like cop outs report on inno cleared, just less scummy.

Even if cop outs a report on Blade saying he's not a cannibal, It DOESN'T CLEAR BLADE UNTIL THE COP IS CLEARED HIMSELF!

Kk going home. BBL

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Jesus Christ, Mikey... it's like talking to a brick wall.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Mikey... I'm going to stay calm.

What I'm trying to tell you is... you did nothing. Changed nothing that wasn't already in the works. You can't clear or confirm Blade by doing a Vote count analysis. You can't. The only way to confirm Blade is to lynch him (hence my vote STILL ON BLADE).

What you did was prace around in your little princess dress(your recognition from Trigger) showing off your Dollar Store Tiara(your vote on Zambi and post thereafter/your "plan"?), for nothing.

Nothing was gained OR lost from you putting Zambi to L-1. He was at L-2 when Blade unvoted. Your "reaction test" wasn't even a fucking reaction test BECAUSE BLADE UNVOTED YOU FUCK!

NO ONE WAS GOING TO HAMMER AFTER MY POST ABOUT HAMMERING!!!!!!!!

You even said so HERE:



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Even if cop outs a report on Blade saying he's not a cannibal, It DOESN'T CLEAR BLADE UNTIL THE COP IS CLEARED HIMSELF!

Kk going home. BBL

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Jesus Christ, Mikey... it's like talking to a brick wall.

Sigh, im sorry you are failing to see past the simplictyhere. What I claimed I did had nothing to do with you or trigger or pass or anybody but myself, aside from confirming no one hammers.

The reason was for me personally, too gauge blades reaction after I posted my vote. He openly pondered whether or not to vote and has been mia up until a little while ago. Ill need to review what he has said since then but if I recall correctly its nothing of value.


What is your goal here? You claim to have reaction tested be but I see nothing. We have hardly had conversation between either of us and you have influenced vitrually 0 of my conversation aside from this talk now.

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Again, I repeat I never said I was attempting to clear blade 100% I was looking for reasons to either hold my fos or remove my fos based off player behaviour afterpushing it to L-1

Removing a fos and clearimg someone are completley diffrent.

[BladeTwinSwords]

No matter what, Sin will not vote for anyone else except me unless we flat-out know of a Mafia or the SK.

[phil.™]

Slammed up all day at work, didn't have time to post but read through thread throughout the day.
I'm not going to do a list, everyone list is almost the same, blah blah.

My vote is still on zambi, why? Someone is fucking coaching him right now, telling him what to do, how to act and what to say. High chance it is likely to be a vet who has recently been active, possibly cyber, possibly scribbs. Again why? Zambi's mouth has been chattering all throughout the beginning part of the thread. Mikey, sin, blade, me, pass, trigg, were active enough during his rants. I do not see any of the people I listed as scum. Now as soon as assassin, scribbs, cyber, hosh, min, chimed in or came back online, he still was chattery, but not as much.

This is my input. My vote stays on zambi. If he is lynched and comes up as scum, the 5 I have listed is a good list to go by for next scum.

[hoshiro-]

Do you guys want me to hammer him?

[SCRIBBLE]

We are now in human centipede mode, eating each other's shit. We need new information.

vote zambi

[Assassin]

We are now in human centipede mode, eating each other's shit. We need new information.

vote zambi

Is that a lynch....finally?

[BladeTwinSwords]

Is that a lynch....finally?

No clue. I think everything has been said at this point so...someone hammer it.

[Nemesis]

Current Vote Count!

Zambi - 6 Votes(1 left)
Assassin - 3 Votes(4 left)
Blade - 1 Vote(6 left)


In case of error I'll go back to the start and recount.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

it is in fact a lynch.........

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wait what?

My vote was L-1 tho

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Current Vote Count:
Zambi - 6 Votes (1 more)
Assassin - 3 Votes (4 more)
Blade - 1 Vote (6 more)

yea this was on page 28 and no one unvoted zambi since this page.

[Nemesis]

The previous Vote count is correct.

Zambi - 6 Votes (1 more)
Assassin - 3 Votes (4 more)
Blade - 1 Vote (6 more)

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To clear any confusion, this is a list of votes as of Post 272:

1. Phil - zambi
2. Assassin - zambi
3. Minjae - zambi
4. Sin - blade
5. Mikey - zambi
6. Scribble - zambi
7.Trigger Unhappy - assassin
8. Blade -
9. Pass -
10. I'm a zambi - assassin
11. Cyber - zambi
12. Hosh - assassin

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

lawl

lelelelelel

that is fucking great

[Trigger Unhappy]

unvote

vote nambi

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pretend that i spelled that correctly

[Nemesis]

There's a lynch. Hang on a few.

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"You know what I hate? New people who don't talk or contribute."

"Hey guys, here's what I think."

"HEY! THE NEW GUYS CONTRIBUTING! GET HIM!"

...you stupid kikes.

Zambi, a.k.a Jimmy Hoffa a Vanilla Townie has been lynched by a bunch of retards on a mountain. Where did you cunts even get rope?

Anyways...

Night 1 Has Begun

Send me your actions.


lol, mikey is colour blind and can't read this, what a faggot...

[I'm a zambi]

:violin: :lmao:

[BladeTwinSwords]

*Who gives a shit about Jimmy Hoffa?*

[I'm a zambi]

*Who gives a shit about Jimmy Hoffa?*
fak u

[BladeTwinSwords]

fak u

**<3**

[I'm a zambi]

**<3**
:pistols::pistols::pistols::pistols::pistols::redd ot:

[Passarelli]

ZzzzzZzzz Nemesis, I love your secret message ZZzzzzZZZzzzz

[I'm a zambi]

*sways in the breeze*

[Sin]

Faggots.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

*****zzzZzZZzZZzZZzzz yawnnnnn ZZzzzZZZzZZZzZZz***

[Nemesis]

still waiting on actions. Work a little faster you twats.

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Deadline for Actions to be sent in is 1800hrs EST Today. If no action is sent no action will be taken.

[Assassin]

still waiting on actions. Work a little faster you twats.

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Deadline for Actions to be sent in is 1800hrs EST Today. If no action is sent no action will be taken.

You're an action...

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

You're an action...

Your face is an action....

[BladeTwinSwords]

Your face is an action....

Your face is an equal and opposite reaction.

[Nemesis]

Stop making fun of Mikey.

just kidding. He's a homo. Lol colour blind? he get that way from all the jizz in the eye?

[Sin]

The fact you spell color as "colour" like a british faggot pisses me off.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

The fact you spell color as "colour" like a british faggot pisses me off.

Huh? Wth you talking about?

Zzzzzzzzzz

[Nemesis]

Huh? Wth you talking about?

Zzzzzzzzzz

no talking at night. fffffffffffffffffaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg.

[Passarelli]

ZZzzzZzzzz Nemesis must be French Canadian. Those guys are assholes. ZZZzzzZzzz

usually color blind people can still see stuff, they just can't figure out the shade or if something is red vs green or whatever. Mikey is prolly just playing dumb.

[Assassin]

usually color blind people can still see stuff, they just can't figure out the shade or if something is red vs green or whatever. Mikey is prolly just playing dumb.

Yup this.

[Nemesis]

they're still considered retarded

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

they're still considered retarded

No it is not as it has nothing to do with the brain. Its with the eye and it sending misinformation to thebbrain regarding how the eye preceives color.
Brain is perfextly fine k thx.

Now, go back to sleep and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Sin]

Hurry the fuck up you faggots how fucking hard is it to send Nemesis a PM saying "Night 1 Action - Visit Sin"?

Just fucking do it.

[Assassin]

Hurry the fuck up you faggots how fucking hard is it to send Nemesis a PM saying "Night 1 Action - Visit Sin"?

Just fucking do it.

That sounds like a creepy bad touch kind of thing...

[Passarelli]

No it is not as it has nothing to do with the brain. Its with the eye and it sending misinformation to thebbrain regarding how the eye preceives color.
Brain is perfextly fine k thx.

Now, go back to sleep and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

ZZZzzzZZzz Physical retardation is still retardation zzZZzzzzz

[Nemesis]

It was a long fucking night, longer for some.

Someone had Mexican sex. while someone wondered why fire was grey.

In the morning, two people were unaccounted for;

Passarelli
and
Scribble

Both people were not found and presumed dead/Mexican.


Day 2 Has Begun

[Sin]

while someone wondered why fire was grey.


LOLOL That flavor text.

Also I'm assuming the Vig either decided on NOT taking action, someone picked the correct person to roleblock, or 2 of the 3 cannibal factions ate the same fucking person.

You sick fucks.

[BladeTwinSwords]

I expected 2 kills from Night 1. I am assuming it was Mafia and SK who killed. Let's get down to business.

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The one time Scribs is active, he dies immediately.

[Sin]

I expected 2 kills from Night 1. I am assuming it was Mafia and SK who killed. Let's get down to business.


First Question: And why is that Blade?

Second Question: Are you soft-claiming Vig?

[hoshiro-]

oh shit, you guys caught me having mexican sexi time

[BladeTwinSwords]

First Question: And why is that Blade?

Second Question: Are you soft-claiming Vig?

First Answer: Nem's flavor text. Fire is usually red so Red = Mafia. He also said some of the fire was grey which could indicate SK.

Second Answer: No I am not.

[Sin]

That flavor text was a knock on Mikey. Nem also stated in the initial flavor text in day one that flavor text is stupid.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

two possibilities i see from our night scene.

1. Roleblocker hit a killing role
2. Maf hit sk and sk killed

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one thing i cant seem to put my finger on is why.. why these targets?
Scribbles was acting scummy as hell day 1 and pass wasnt really adding much. Neither of them hinted or soft claimed.
Could be that it was entirely random. Which would suck.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

also, i think its time i asked.

SIN! Can you explain to me what you reasoning was behind bolding out everyone's names in d1?
Perhaps a different approach this time.

[Trigger Unhappy]

On option two, there wouldn't be two kills, that would mean vig had to get involved. If I understand immunity ...

[phil.™]

also, i think its time i asked.

SIN! Can you explain to me what you reasoning was behind bolding out everyone's names in d1?
Perhaps a different approach this time.

Yes, I too would like an explanation for this. I found it very fishy for everyone to list out what they thought of who. That is why i did not make a list.

[Trigger Unhappy]

My guess is sk and mafia both killed, unless vig was really confident..

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

On option two, there wouldn't be two kills, that would mean vig had to get involved. If I understand immunity ...

Trigger, though i dont think you are necessarily town this game. I do applaud you for showing improvement from last games. Your brain! Its being used!
You are correct i bveleive.

Perhaps the vig thought they were going to kick the bucket and killed n1.
Typically it is wise for the vig to NK n1 but given the set up and the #of players, it wouldn't necessarily hurt.

Cyber, this isnt like you. Typically you hawk eye these games and i wont take "im busy" as an excuse. We all know you work a 9-5 job in some Canadian factory.

[Trigger Unhappy]

Well thanks!

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

uhg, im still wondering why pass was killed.
Scribbs i can sort of see. i assume vig killed scribbs because of that hammer vote at the end.. which didn't even hammer because he had already voted for zambi like 10 pages prior.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Possible Results:

1. Mafia killed, SK killed, Vig did dick (Most likely)
2. Mafia killed, SK killed Mafia target, Vig killed (Unlikely)
3. Mafia killed, SK did dick, Vig killed (Lol)
4. Mafia did dick, SK killed, Vig killed (Really...)

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Possible Results:

1. Mafia killed, SK killed, Vig did dick (Most likely)
2. Mafia killed, SK killed Mafia target, Vig killed (Unlikely)
3. Mafia killed, SK did dick, Vig killed (Lol)
4. Mafia did dick, SK killed, Vig killed (Really...)

totally forgot potential roleblocks...

[BladeTwinSwords]

totally forgot potential roleblocks...

Sorry, in a hurry. It's Taco Night.

[Sin]

I've already explained the possible scenarios from the night phase why is everyone reiterating what's already been stated?

Focus people.

Onto mikey/Phils question: Mikey I bolded the names to make it easier to read on the eyes. I also italicized the "verdict". And the reason why we want EVERYONE'S opinion (phil) is so that we can see where EVERYONE'S thoughts are. Normally I'd settle for everyone just stating FOS's with reasoning, but a good amount of the players are new. You should get in the habit of doing this regardless if it's asked for or not. Some people take it as far as running full ISOs (isolation of individual posts out of context to catch slips, check the mafia scum wiki for details) on every player in the game, but it's not seen as a very productive tactic and wastes a lot of time.

With that said, when I get home if I'm not tired (may save for tomorrow morning) I'll go through and try and discern motive to kill within everyone's posts. Thinking back I know Pass shared some great suspicions one in particular comes to mind, but I'll let you guys find it.

Stop being lazy.

Phil that was a poor excuse to not divulge your thoughts on the game and completely anti-town of you. I'm disappointed.

Blade is still a faggot. Fucking missed my train -.-

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Also, keep in mind that Nightkill speculation is usually unproductive and leads to WIFOM.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I've already explained the possible scenarios from the night phase why is everyone reiterating what's already been stated?
This contradicts your actions in D1 as well as the following statement




And the reason why we want EVERYONE'S opinion (phil) is so that we can see where EVERYONE'S thoughts are.

Why dont you care to see everyone's thoughts regarding night scenarios?

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the part you added, you are somewhat right. However, determining why players were killed is important. If there is a reason behind deaths apart from being 100% random, as town, we want to know about it.

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lastly, you also forgot to mention any possibility of a roleblock.

The reason why this is critical is because killers see who's role they kill. Why are both you and blade throwing out the possibility of a role block?

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i retract, that last update in my post. It was just blade who neglected to post about potential roleblocks.

[Sin]

This contradicts your actions in D1 as well as the following statement




Why dont you care to see everyone's thoughts regarding night scenarios?

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the part you added, you are somewhat right. However, determining why players were killed is important. If there is a reason behind deaths apart from being 100% random, as town, we want to know about it.

How am I contradicting myself?

Reiterating the possible scenarios is just upping post count. Pointless. There are only a finite amount of possibilities and I stated all of them in my first Day 2 post. You adding the "why?" Was good, but as I said in my previous post be cautious of trying to figure out what scum is thinking.

Nemesis stated that flavor text means nothing in this game early on, so as that being a Mod post I take it seriously.

Although, I would like some confirmation on the seriousness of that statement early on in the game Nemesis. Are we to disregard your flavor text completely? If so, please just post deaths from now on.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

to caveate, pass has shown in previous games that he has a good talent in thinking rationally and logically. I see what you are saying.

[Sin]

I did not neglect to mention role blocks you fuckin prick. Read my fucking post again.

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Yeah you better retract that shit.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

How am I contradicting myself?

Reiterating the possible scenarios is just upping post count. Pointless. There are only a finite amount of possibilities and I stated all of them in my first Day 2 post. You adding the "why?" Was good, but as I said in my previous post be cautious of trying to figure out what scum is thinking.

Nemesis stated that flavor text means nothing in this game early on, so as that being a Mod post I take it seriously.

Although, I would like some confirmation on the seriousness of that statement early on in the game Nemesis. Are we to disregard your flavor text completely? If so, please just post deaths from now on.

i wouldnt read to much into his flavor text. Its obvious what is there to begin with. He is rolling around on the "djmikey is colorblind" train. Fucking bastard o.,o

What we have is two players who are missing. Why did those players go missing instead of say.. the vets? Because we have noobs playing who want an educational game? Id think they would fearkill because they ont know any better.
Is it a combination of vets and newbies? Trying to prolong the game for educational purpose?

sin, alot of my post, i retract. The "contradiction" part was in regards to not hearing players opinions about possibilities. You may think its useless but it could be fruitful.. for examp0le, mustering up the courage for the vig to claim that he shot someone who isnt dead atm.

Or a way for the vig to soft claim.

There are several more examples, if it is necessary.

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also, you know that most of the players here are new to mafia.
Though i agree it is a bad habit to share opinions about everything all the time. I think its good to get people in the habit of talking about relevant game material. (stuff that is relevant ONLY to the game, none of that theory bullshit.. they can google that shit themselves)

an example. If we had everyone post there opinions on what shape they think town will be in day 3 in regards to numbers. We can use that and explain to the new people how to base a motive or action. I.e. sometimes no lynching is actually a very good thing but we have never taken the time to play it out and explain why.

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for everyone, fundamentally it all comes down to asking the right questions. Narrowing in and closing in on all the possible exits for maf to divert attention.

[Sin]

Best post of your life Mikey.

[Nemesis]

All flavour text is to confuse and disorient Mikey

[BladeTwinSwords]

Mikey, you could essentially call not doing dick a roleblock.

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Also, why is no one else posting except me, Sin, and Mikey?

[CYBER]

First Question: And why is that Blade?

Second Question: Are you soft-claiming Vig?
I second that question.

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now time to read a shitton of crap and see what happened.
So much for passerelli, i will not deny being ecstatic about scribble's unfortunate FORCED AFKNESS hahahahahahahaha

(sry had to be said)

[Trigger Unhappy]

God some of this is going over my head. So let me summarize and you can tell me if im correct.

The choice of kills is confusing to people, because both people chosen where not listed as veterans. Scrib was on my list of possible mafia, so i was surprised that he died. it makes me feel like the vig did take a shot... but some of you are saying that this is unlikey. If someone could explain that I would appreciate it. So basically if i had to point to who killed who.. I would say that maf killed pass (because i thought he was town), Vig or SK killed scrib because he was scummy.. My take at least.

On the subject of the lists... why would the request for lists be considered scummy?

[CYBER]

Cyber, this isnt like you. Typically you hawk eye these games and i wont take "im busy" as an excuse. We all know you work a 9-5 job in some Canadian factory.

I'm just bored out of my mind... it is somewhat because of real life, but at this point, i'm just bored.
Reason:
My "specialty" is to meta the game and focus on flavor text and the deaths announced to try to elaborate on what happened or what could possibly happened.
In this game, I feel and am useless overall, both literally and because of how no info is revealed (AGAIN, FFS nemesis i'm really hating the scum buffs and town nerfs in this -.-)

Pass... why did u have to die man -.-. You were my source of summaries in this game lol. Now i feel like i lost an important backup player in this -.-
I'd ask you what's cooking again at your place, but looks like someone interrupted your own popcorn time and made YOU the meal hahaha (it's a carnivore flavor joke, shut up im bored).

Scribble. I really really really hope you were a mafia and killed off by the SK. Just because it's hilarious how the ONE FUCKING time you weren't afk, you die. AFK-ness = wins. I should try that lol.

Sin, i have to give you props. Whether you are scum and leading the sheep, or genuinely pro town. You're doing an amazing job. You're the MVP so far this game, I hope u lead us to victory:D

Mikey, like i said before, i find your posts weird, but comparing you to what i thought of Zambi, i don't really think u'd be an SK.
Same for assassin and hoshiro about the SK. Their plays are weird, little to no input, but i know first hand that sometimes u cant be too active bcos of shit.
As for others, I am simply not getting any decent vibe.

The bigger question is: Did we lose VTs? or did we lose a power role? or did the mafia and SK kill off eachother or the vig etc?
I do believe that the vig would probably not eat on day 1 with little info, so i support whoever posted the list about possible scenarios at night ( was it blade or sin?), and that most likely it was a mafia and sk killing.

IMPORTANT:
I think i missed this part:
If we end up lynching a carnivore that ate another person. Do we ONLY get that carnivore's shit? or do we get access to his "storage" and get info on all those he ate?


anywho , i have no further information to give. Sin's doing a good job of posting very valid points and for now i don't see any flaw in this logic.
What i don't get is why sin and mikey keep argueing back and forth. they both presented good points but most of it felt like re-iteration of shit we already talked about... i'm not getting any more info for today... i don't know.


FUCK, i really wish we had better flavor texts. Nemesis give me a better mexican fiesta storyline ffs in next scene.
That and my own uselessness is becoming boring as fuck. I usually try to give my best no matter what, but im starting to understand why locust gets bored so fast or afks lol.

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wait minjae is in this game? LAWL.
i completely forgot him and hoshiro were still playing at this point...
Damn i've been busy and afk and a tad bored, but goddamn people, that's hilarious that u've been abnormally quiet.

[BladeTwinSwords]

This game honestly just fucks over the Mafia way too much. They have absolutely no powers and only 2 members. The SK on the other hand, is retarded overpowered. All he has to do is act town sided and fuck with everyone. The Town has the Vig which is lightly nerfed, the Dietician which is a slightly nerfed Cop, and the Roleblocker, which is...a Roleblocker.

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No wonder the Mafia never win.

[CYBER]

LOLOL That flavor text.

Also I'm assuming the Vig either decided on NOT taking action, someone picked the correct person to roleblock, or 2 of the 3 cannibal factions ate the same fucking person.

You sick fucks.


i was wondering where that damn post was :
THERE IT IS.

Scenario 0:
If we lynch a carnivore, do we get his previous meals?


scenario 1:
if X and Y attacked Z same night.
Do BOTH X and Y gain Z's info?


Scenario 2:
If X and Y attack eachother. Do they both die? then what happens to their info? is it released or lost for good?

Scenario 3:
If X and Y attack eachother, but at the same time, Z ate one of them (x or y).
Does Z get BOTH X and Y's info? or just the one he attached? seeing as technically, X gets Y's shit, and Y gets X's shit and Z gets ALL the info that one of them collected?

Scenario 4:
Does the roleblock block the mafia KILL? or just any skill like investigation or vig kill? Bcos i know nemesis has this annoying idea and thinks that the "faction" kill is not roleblockable... Which it IS normally on mafiascum. But i dont know if this applies to carnivore games...


I'm curious, because i'd like to know how much info is genuinely shared on those nights, and how the roleblocker could have affected night 1 actions, if it actually hit a valuable person.

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This game honestly just fucks over the Mafia way too much. They have absolutely no powers and only 2 members. The SK on the other hand, is retarded overpowered. All he has to do is act town sided and fuck with everyone. The Town has the Vig which is lightly nerfed, the Dietician which is a slightly nerfed Cop, and the Roleblocker, which is...a Roleblocker.

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No wonder the Mafia never win.



wait what?
Mafia almost ALWAYS wins in ibis...
it's sad.

But i genuinely thought that in fact, the SCUM was more overpowered than town...
they can TALK during DAY. and discuss shit... deaths at night arent revealed...

the sks almost always get some form of protection for 1 night just to avoid the luck of the draw, but dont forget that when they dnt die, or when someone doesnt die at night (bcos roleblock), it raises suspicion as to how the SK was alive that night and they get FOS'd in game... i see that a bit fair.and the mafia can discuss shit and play it during day and lynch ppl they want...


Town only has a couple nerfed roles... the vig cant kill randomly unless dumb, the nutritionist (cop) has no information whatsoever from previous deaths to go about his investigations and roleblocker can backfire on town...

i still think the game is scum sided... what are u smoking?

[CYBER]

I thought i voted:
Vote: Blade.

Because he thinks mafia side harder when it isn't.
He must be mafia to feel mafia pain :P

(hope that made sense. YAYYYY i managed to meta something !! WOOT)

[BladeTwinSwords]

I thought i voted:
Vote: Blade.

Because he thinks mafia side harder when it isn't.
He must be mafia to feel mafia pain :P

(hope that made sense. YAYYYY i managed to meta something !! WOOT)

Dammit, even Cyber's figured me out! Welp, Town's won this game.

[Sin]

Dammit, even Cyber's figured me out! Welp, Town's won this game.

You're a faggot.

Cyber all of your questions were answered in the sign-up thread, but I'll do your lazy ass a solid and copy/paste for you:


-When a Cannibal night-kills someone, they take the body and put it in their larder, resulting in no role/alignment reveal to the town for that kill. The Cannibal who performed the kill learns the role/alignment reveal via their result PM.
-If a Cannibal night-kills another Cannibal, they take all of the bodies their target had, learning all the role/alignment information their target knew. This will include their target's night-kill target from that same night, if applicable.
-If more than one Cannibal night-kills the same target, they will all learn the target's role/alignment information. They will not learn that their target was killed multiple times.
-If two Cannibals night-kill eachother, and are not in turn night-killed by yet another Cannibal, their role/alignment information, and that of all the bodies they possessed, is revealed to the town.
-The Cannibal mechanic has no effect on lynches. The role/alignment of the lynchee is always revealed to the town. If a Cannibal is lynched, the role/alignment information of all their bodies is also revealed.

If the Cop got a guilyy/cannibal on someone they should be pushing for a lynch on that person. Not telling you to out yet but just be creative. ;)

-Hoshi
-Minj
-Phil
-Assassin

You're up faggots, let's go. Contribute. Who am I missing?

[Assassin]

I'm really confused by those kills is well, although I think Blade's post is rather odd, I think he's the vig because of the him not caring part (they get a one shot right? He might have used it and missed and is now a VT). As for the rest, tbh idk...Sin you're pretty much town to me, the rest haven't posted enough for me to make a decision.

[Sin]

Alright, it seems we have a lot of people who are confused about the possibilities of what happened during the Night phase, so I'll break it down by Role.

Mafia Goons:
- Only one mafia member can make the kill, and unless they're stupid they DEFINITELY made an action last night.
- May have targeted the Serial Killer, therefore missing in their kill because of the SK's 1-Shot (NightKill) Immunity
- May have been Roleblocked
- May have targeted the same person as one of the other cannibals (SK and Vigilante)

Serial Killer:
- More than likely killed someone
- May have been targeted for either a Kill or a Roleblock = Doesn't matter they're Immune for a night.
- May have targeted the same person as one of the other cannibals (Mafia and Vigilante)

Town Vigilante:
- More than likely made no action
- May have been Roleblocked
- May have targeted the Serial Killer, therefore missing in their kill because of the SK's 1-Shot (NightKill) Immunity
- May have targeted the same person as one of the other cannibals (SK and Mafia)

Town Roleblocker:
- Targeted a Mafia and stopped a kill from happening.
- Targeted the SK and broke the SK's Roleblock immunity.

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With this information, as town, what we have to go off of is the possibility (hope) that the Vigilante DID make an action and targeted the Serial Killer. Why is this good information? Because it confirms who the SK is. Although, honestly the SK should honestly be helping town at this point, we'd still need to know to rule out potential Mafia suspects.

Yes, there's the possibility that the Vig was RB'd which wouldn't net him any information either, but if the RB targeted anyone remotely towntelling, it's their fuck up.

Serial Killer, do you have anything you'd like to share with us?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I'm really confused by those kills is well, although I think Blade's post is rather odd, I think he's the vig because of the him not caring part (they get a one shot right? He might have used it and missed and is now a VT). As for the rest, tbh idk...Sin you're pretty much town to me, the rest haven't posted enough for me to make a decision.

1. Blade is not vig. As per his words.
2. Vig can shoot every night.

@sin. Af hit sk or sk and maf hit same target. Vig shot last night.
That is my conclusion.

[hoshiro-]

You guys are just posting so much awesome information that Im really lost for words on what to post and I feel like I cant really contribute much. Im basically that side character in the detective shows that just follows the protagonist around and say "uh huh, good point sir" just like watson from sherlock holmes. So for now all im really doing is observing and trying to learn from you guys as much as i can

[Sin]

You guys are just posting so much awesome information that Im really lost for words on what to post and I feel like I cant really contribute much. Im basically that side character in the detective shows that just follows the protagonist around and say "uh huh, good point sir" just like watson from sherlock holmes. So for now all im really doing is observing and trying to learn from you guys as much as i can

I don't have time for sheep. This setup is only good for people who discuss and debate. Looking back through all of your posts in day 1, you've shown the capacity to think for yourself and form opinions, this last post shows me that you're being highly disingenuous.

VOTE HOSHIRO-

[Trigger Unhappy]

I don't have time for sheep. This setup is only good for people who discuss and debate. Looking back through all of your posts in day 1, you've shown the capacity to think for yourself and form opinions, this last post shows me that you're being highly disingenuous.

VOTE HOSHIRO-


Also, I did not like the patronizing nature of your post...

[CYBER]

Vig shot last night.
That is my conclusion.

did u mean the vig attacked someone last night? or GOT attacked?
and if it's the former, What makes u think the vig actually shot someone?
Hell, is there even a way to tell if one of pass or scribble was cannibal (mafia, sk, vig) to begin with or do we have to wait for deaths/lynch or next night to guess who shot what?

If vig is still alive in all this, i STRONGLY suggest you either be 100% goddamn certain of who you're eating, or simply lay off the late night snacks man for 1 night, so we can confirm whether or not pass or scribb was an SK and killed off?


ABOUT THE SERIAL KILLER:
Like, if vig calms down for the night with the hyper shooting, and we only get ONE kill, then that means it's only mafia left, and we can assume that the SK was pass or Scribble and no longer attacking us. In other words, let's hope it's only 1 person dead tonight, that will let us know that looking for a serial killer is no longer required as they'd be definite dead, unless roleblocked by some douche.


because right now. that vig is only shooting blindly, a vig shouldn't be idiotic enough to shoot ppl left and right... a vig kill is better used late game with info presented, like by posts, or claims or lynches or cop, or counter claiming, rather than wtvr the fuck came to ur mind if u actually shot someone last night lol.

anywho, its 9 am, and im still awake.... peace. try to not go apeshit on ppl till i am available again :D

[Sin]

Cyber, either you're retarded and illiterate, or you're trying to spread misinformation. SK COULD NOT HAVE DIED LAST NIGHT BECAUSE HE IS IMMUNE TO ALL NIGHTKILLS FOR ONE NIGHT.

You're really starting to look more and more like scum.

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1. Blade is not vig. As per his words.
2. Vig can shoot every night.

@sin. Af hit sk or sk and maf hit same target. Vig shot last night.
That is my conclusion.

Why are you so sure the Vig took action last night and that MAF/SK focused the same target?

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Also, I did not like the patronizing nature of your post...

Why did you take offense to my post?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Cyber, either you're retarded and illiterate, or you're trying to spread misinformation. SK COULD NOT HAVE DIED LAST NIGHT BECAUSE HE IS IMMUNE TO ALL NIGHTKILLS FOR ONE NIGHT.

You're really starting to look more and more like scum.

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Why are you so sure the Vig took action last night and that MAF/SK focused the same target?

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Why did you take offense to my post?

I am not certain that maf shot the same target as sk. I think its more likley that maf shot the sk and the sk procced his nk immunity.

[Sin]

So why do you think the Vig took action?

[CYBER]

You're a faggot.

Cyber all of your questions were answered in the sign-up thread, but I'll do your lazy ass a solid and copy/paste for you:


-When a Cannibal night-kills someone, they take the body and put it in their larder, resulting in no role/alignment reveal to the town for that kill. The Cannibal who performed the kill learns the role/alignment reveal via their result PM.
-If a Cannibal night-kills another Cannibal, they take all of the bodies their target had, learning all the role/alignment information their target knew. This will include their target's night-kill target from that same night, if applicable.
-If more than one Cannibal night-kills the same target, they will all learn the target's role/alignment information. They will not learn that their target was killed multiple times.
-If two Cannibals night-kill eachother, and are not in turn night-killed by yet another Cannibal, their role/alignment information, and that of all the bodies they possessed, is revealed to the town.
-The Cannibal mechanic has no effect on lynches. The role/alignment of the lynchee is always revealed to the town. If a Cannibal is lynched, the role/alignment information of all their bodies is also revealed.

If the Cop got a guilyy/cannibal on someone they should be pushing for a lynch on that person. Not telling you to out yet but just be creative. ;)

-Hoshi
-Minj
-Phil
-Assassin

You're up faggots, let's go. Contribute. Who am I missing?

oh yeah sorry, this whole cannibalism thing is pissing me the fuck off, not my fortee... I guess in time i will figure out this whole theme shit because right now im confused and I'm just waiting for the right info from some white people so that i can meta this shit hardcore, but so far i'm drawing a blank and cannot be as creative as u and i would like.

although scribble dying was hilarious, this whole Passerelli dying on night 1 kinda screwed me over because you can be damn certain he was the kind of person that might nibble on some clues in this thread and catch hints from ppl and help me isolate incidences, whereas others simply get lost following their tail.

So far i'm just going to follow my gut about blade's funny comment about mafia side being too hard.
Lynch the liars right? You just gotta take a leap of faith in ur gut sometimes, and see what's inside theirs lol

[Sin]

oh yeah sorry, this whole cannibalism thing is pissing me the fuck off, not my fortee... I guess in time i will figure out this whole theme shit because right now im confused and I'm just waiting for the right info from some white people so that i can meta this shit hardcore, but so far i'm drawing a blank and cannot be as creative as u and i would like.

although scribble dying was hilarious, this whole Passerelli dying on night 1 kinda screwed me over because you can be damn certain he was the kind of person that might nibble on some clues in this thread and catch hints from ppl and help me isolate incidences, whereas others simply get lost following their tail.

So far i'm just going to follow my gut about blade's funny comment about mafia side being too hard.
Lynch the liars right? You just gotta take a leap of faith in ur gut sometimes, and see what's inside theirs lol

Blade's comment wasn't that far off Cyber, which was something Nemesis referenced directly at YOU in the sign-up thread.

Taken from the Donner Party Wiki page on mafiascum found here (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Donner_Party).

Open 293 - (Town Win)
Open 340 - (SK Win)
Open 403 - (SK/Mafia Draw)
Open 440 - (Town Win)
Open 468 - (SK Win)
Open 490 - (SK Win)

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What's funny to me is that you're never this lazy in any other game.

You're making it so hard not to meta you and change my vote right now.

[CYBER]

Cyber, either you're retarded and illiterate, or you're trying to spread misinformation. SK COULD NOT HAVE DIED LAST NIGHT BECAUSE HE IS IMMUNE TO ALL NIGHTKILLS FOR ONE NIGHT.

You're really starting to look more and more like scum.

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Why are you so sure the Vig took action last night and that MAF/SK focused the same target?

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Why did you take offense to my post?


yeah i'd like u to pay close attention to my last post. again, this whole cannibalism thing is confusing the fuck out of me, not my cup of tea.
I was trying to be creative.


HEY MAFIA, if u attacked someone last night, and they didn't die, apaparently they are the SK lawl, so how about u cut town some slack and attack it again to kill off ur primary enemy other that the vig who'd second guesss his shooting if not a complete moron?:P
(completely blanked out about his immunity shit -.-).
like i said, i have been trying to keep up, but all in due time, i'll get the hang of it soon i guess, i'll figure it out.

[Trigger Unhappy]

Not yours sins. Hoshiros post was patronizing, I agree with you though, he and cyber need to stop being lazy ...

Cyber, blade said mafia don't win and you voted for him right? He was referring to the post nemesis made that started percentages of each group winning. You would know a lot of this info by just reading.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

oh yeah sorry, this whole cannibalism thing is pissing me the fuck off, not my fortee... I guess in time i will figure out this whole theme shit because right now im confused and I'm just waiting for the right info from some white people so that i can meta this shit hardcore, but so far i'm drawing a blank and cannot be as creative as u and i would like.

although scribble dying was hilarious, this whole Passerelli dying on night 1 kinda screwed me over because you can be damn certain he was the kind of person that might nibble on some clues in this thread and catch hints from ppl and help me isolate incidences, whereas others simply get lost following their tail.

So far i'm just going to follow my gut about blade's funny comment about mafia side being too hard.
Lynch the liars right? You just gotta take a leap of faith in ur gut sometimes, and see what's inside theirs lol

Perhaps you are having a hard time being creative and helpful to town because you are not town aligned.

[CYBER]

sin, you seem to be quite insightful this game, i respect that. in fact, i respect it so much that u haven't even made my shitlist this game yet, and that's saying something.

So out of curiosity, why would u think osmeone like hoshiro could be scum, when someone like blade outright came out guns blazing that the setup is not godo for mafia?

I mean fine, u and blade did some stats and reading, but the question is : WHY NOW. Why did blade decide NOW out of nowhere to go full raging about mafia losing vs an SK... AFTER TWO DEATHS tonight.

a townie would be questioning if those 2 ppl were town, and be sad that mafia is op and that u dnt know what's happening...
he's doign the opposite, it doesnt make any sense.
It's as if he's mafia, and some shit happened at night that made him cringe, like ppl not obeying a team decision in mafia, or mod ruling pissed him off ( happens), or his partner died by an SK or VIG kill, or they attacked the SK and the fucker is still alive?
All these things would definitely make me cringe if i were to be a mafia in this setup, and granted the setup favors sk winning normally, as a town , u wouldnt give a damn talkign about SK winning chances vs MAFIA winning chances.... u'd probably be combining both and saying "scum winning chances" vs" town winning chances"....



AGAIN, this whole "boohoo mafia is being screwed over" thing sounds like a genuine cry for help. and if it isn't, thne it's blade trolling again, and last time blade trolled, it cost YOU the game (hint hint heimadinger). And i wouldn't want such troll town in game at the risk of killing off a power role.
You asked for some ppl to be creative, here's ur shot to be helpful.
that kind of creativity coming from blade is bad, so i have my opinion for the day about his whole post. it makes me suspicious, that is all.
My attention span has been crap recently bcos overworked in real life, but come on...

[minjae]

wait minjae is in this game? LAWL.
i completely forgot him and hoshiro were still playing at this point...
Damn i've been busy and afk and a tad bored, but goddamn people, that's hilarious that u've been abnormally quiet.

LOLOL I knew you forgot me. Your huge wall of text with everyone was missing me. I was a little sad you didn't post about me =]
I have been posting to be fair. Not a lot, but I have been posting.

Anyways, I see that these are the possible outcomes:
Mafia killed, SK killed, Vig roleblocked
Mafia killed, Sk roleblocked, vig killed SK
Mafia role blocked, SK killed, vig killed
Mafia killed, SK killed, vig did not kill, VT or dietician roleblocked

As of now, I find it hard to choose which one it is with how little information is given from Nem, which I understand cause of this set-up.

I'm also going to vote who I think may be mafia.

Vote Hosh

[CYBER]

Perhaps you are having a hard time being creative and helpful to town because you are not town aligned.

*takes a hard look in the mirror*
Nope. I'm definitely town, but i haven't been overly reading every damn word in this thread because my attention span screwed me over early game. And now im playing the catchup game.
gimme a couple days to get my shit straight lol, i'm still trying to sort through all this shit, heck i dont even know who said what anymore earlier. so i try to avoid misleading info.

[Sin]

UNVOTE

Minjae, why did you choose the Hoshiro wagon over the Blade wagon?

[hoshiro-]

Haha I was waiting for that... I wanted to see who the first person to follow a wagon on me
Minj....

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Haha I was waiting for that... I wanted to see who the first person to follow a wagon on me
Minj....

Hmmmm. Why do I think this is bullshit?

[Sin]

Haha I was waiting for that... I wanted to see who the first person to follow a wagon on me
Minj....

You think you're in the clear because I unvoted you? How much are you sweating right now on a scale from 1 - A Fat Kid On A Treadmill?

[hoshiro-]

maybe 2-3. minj didnt really give good reasoning on voting me which i find suspicious, and you stated earlier in game that you use votes to to test peoples reaction which is why ive been observing people's votes more carefully now and try to understand the reasons that they give

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so minjs random vote just strikes me very odd

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see, like i said, ive been learning shit from observing

[phil.™]

Min's votes are always random, and always follows a train. Somewhat suspicious of that, but read as follows.

IMO, SK is one of the newer players, who targeted pass. Mafia targeted Scribbs. Pass was not too scummy day 1, he should not have been a priority target, pass was probably VT. A newer player is just taking out 1 by 1, without a care because of the immunity he has. SK is him vs everyone else right? He is counting on these lynches, and his random kills, and mafia to kill everyone else.
My SK suspicions: Hosh, Min, Ass, Trigg, Cyber, Blade, Sin, Mikey. In that order.

Vig didn't do jack shit.

[Assassin]

Why do I always top your list for suspicious people?

[phil.™]

Why do I always top your list for suspicious people?

You're 3rd boo. It was between you and trigg.

[Trigger Unhappy]

Actually surprised that blade is so low on your list. He is third for me actually. I agree with your last two though.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Why though.... why do you out me at the end.... this is truly ground breaking, history in the making....

You want to know what I really thinl?

Sin, what role was pass? You killed him right?

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I never thought id live to see the day where a majority of players read me as town. Its shocking, truly unbelievable.

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Also, can someone do me a squiggly and find me everyone who fosd scribble d1. Who thought he was maf more than others. Im at work and dont have the luxury of time and thread sniffing.

[Sin]

Sin, what role was pass? You killed him right?


What's your reasoning for thinking I know Pass's role?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

What's your reasoning for thinking I know Pass's role?

What If said I think pass is maf, maf shot you because of how you played day 1 and you are sk.
Its what my gut keeps telling me. So I wouldnt read to much into it.

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Also, you seem very interested in who the vig is.. asking if they soft claimed. Are you waiting for a vig claim so you can cc? Are you the vig?
Iunno, somthing dosnt seem right. I feel like , wobbly.

[Sin]

What If said I think pass is maf, maf shot you because of how you played day 1 and you are sk.
Its what my gut keeps telling me. So I wouldnt read to much into it.

I think gut reads can be a good thing sometimes. And it's also a good thing that you're thinking outside the box... pass could have possibly been Maf, but the Vig could have held back on taking action last night, I Guess.


Also, you seem very interested in who the vig is.. asking if they soft claimed. Are you waiting for a vig claim so you can cc? Are you the vig?
Iunno, somthing dosnt seem right. I feel like , wobbly.

I think we should ALL be interested in who our town PR's are, to be honest. A soft claim would be nice. Minj could possibly be the mysterious Vig/Cop though and his vote on Hosh could have been that soft claim, pushing for him to get lynched without revealing who he is. I was trying to decipher that which is why I unvoted in the first place.

We need something to go off of as well, and claims/counter-claims would be pretty nice at this point, as we practically have the same shit to go off of as we did on Day 1.

DO NOT CLAIM IF YOU DO NOT HAVE HARD EVIDENCE ON WHO IS A CANNIBAL THOUGH.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I know of one person who has soft claimed. This person has soft claimed several times now.

[Sin]

So mysterious.

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I wonder if it could be a possible "RS".

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

So mysterious.

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I wonder if it could be a possible "RS".

Wouldnt you like to know, sk.

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Oh and your "I guess" part. No, vig killed last night. Maf hit sk, and sk killed pass.
That means you are no longer immune and you killed pass.

Pass was the only person to hard fos scribbs yesterday.

Stop playing ignant sin.

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There is a slight possibility that one of the evil factions no killed.. but I find that highly unlikley as neither of them have attempted to profit off of it here in the day phase.

[phil.™]

Or sin, did you soft claim?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Or sin, did you soft claim?

............................................
I have lost all faith in humanity.

[phil.™]

If the Cop got a guilyy/cannibal on someone they should be pushing for a lynch on that person. Not telling you to out yet but just be creative. ;)


VOTE HOSHIRO-


Minj could possibly be the mysterious Vig/Cop though and his vote on Hosh could have been that soft claim, pushing for him to get lynched without revealing who he is.


............................................
I have lost all faith in humanity.

Didn't sin do what min did?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Sin was first to vote hosh, he then unvoted and questioned minj as to why he jumped the bw.

[minjae]

I voted hosh because I felt like it. Besides his observing, he has been awfully quiet.
I'm not trying to join in on a wagon. It's funny you guys are saying that when I was the one who started zambi's lynch.
Which I was wrong about...-_-...but I'm probably wrong about hosh too.
About joining on the blade lynch train, the read I have on him, is up and down. I don't know where he stands. He's lower on the suspect totem pole, as of now.

Well for now I'd like to rethink on who to vote for. I think hosh is probably vt.
Unvote

I have my suspicions. I want to see what people have to say.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I voted hosh because I felt like it. Besides his observing, he has been awfully quiet.
I'm not trying to join in on a wagon. It's funny you guys are saying that when I was the one who started zambi's lynch.
Which I was wrong about...-_-...but I'm probably wrong about hosh too.
About joining on the blade lynch train, the read I have on him, is up and down. I don't know where he stands. He's lower on the suspect totem pole, as of now.

Well for now I'd like to rethink on who to vote for. I think hosh is probably vt.
Unvote

I have my suspicions. I want to see what people have to say.
And what if no one says anything.

We should start policy lynching everyone who says something to this effect consistently. "Im going to wait another 50 pages to post a small post that tells you im going to wait another 50 pages."

This game requires you to be social and communicate.

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Unless your maf ofc.

[minjae]

Well fuck that, I don't want to read another 40+ pages before night again.

And I'm trying to be social and communicate. But where are the others?
There's quite a few people that haven't said anything/much as of late.

I am not mafia. I'm trying to narrow down, who is mafia/SK. Apparently everyone else is just observing until we get a lynch train started.

[BladeTwinSwords]

I have an idea as to 1 role.

[Sin]

Wouldnt you like to know, sk.

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Oh and your "I guess" part. No, vig killed last night. Maf hit sk, and sk killed pass.
That means you are no longer immune and you killed pass.

Pass was the only person to hard fos scribbs yesterday.

Stop playing ignant sin.

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There is a slight possibility that one of the evil factions no killed.. but I find that highly unlikley as neither of them have attempted to profit off of it here in the day phase.

This is where delving into the "whys" of nightkills becomes unproductive and WIFOM.

But let's take this accusation a bit further:

- You went from townreading me early Day 1
- To dropping joking accusations of me being SK (which seemed fishy at best)
- To getting defensive over my read on your in the latter part of Day 1.
- To having a "gut" feeling that I'm SK in Day 2
- To basically FOSing me as SK in Day 2 without any form of evidence aside from this "gut" feeling and NOT voting me.

If this isn't an OMGUS FOS idk what is.

Bickering back and forth with you has proven less useful than when I bickered with Nem in the Supernatural game, but I'll say one thing:

If the Vigilante made an action last night, it was most likely Pass going for his main suspect (Scribble) who was probably Mafia, and just so happens that Mafia AND the SK targeted Pass.

But you see where speculation gets us? Nowhere. It's a waste of time.

The only people who know ANYTHING are the Town Power roles and obviously the SK and Maf.

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I have an idea as to 1 role.

Care to share?

[BladeTwinSwords]

Care to share?

I am fairly confident on who the Dietician is but I'm worried about the repercussions.

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AKA, Mafia/SK killing them.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

This is where delving into the "whys" of nightkills becomes unproductive and WIFOM.

But let's take this accusation a bit further:

- You went from townreading me early Day 1
- To dropping joking accusations of me being SK (which seemed fishy at best)
- To getting defensive over my read on your in the latter part of Day 1.
- To having a "gut" feeling that I'm SK in Day 2
- To basically FOSing me as SK in Day 2 without any form of evidence aside from this "gut" feeling and NOT voting me.

If this isn't an OMGUS FOS idk what is.

Bickering back and forth with you has proven less useful than when I bickered with Nem in the Supernatural game, but I'll say one thing:

If the Vigilante made an action last night, it was most likely Pass going for his main suspect (Scribble) who was probably Mafia, and just so happens that Mafia AND the SK targeted Pass.

But you see where speculation gets us? Nowhere. It's a waste of time.

The only people who know ANYTHING are the Town Power roles and obviously the SK and Maf.

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Care to share?
Incorrect, I stand by my explanation and reasoning behind the likley hood that pass was maf.

I to would like to know blade.

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Sin, seriously. Stop being dense. Why else would I denounce all other possibilities.

Blade ignore my last question, you already answered.

[BladeTwinSwords]

I looked back and read a few posts and picked up on a few things.

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Like I've mentioned before. Day 1 is an honest to god crapshoot. Once Day 2 rolls around, I start poking for answers.

[Sin]

Incorrect, I stand by my explanation and reasoning behind the likley hood that pass was maf.


Slip?

[BladeTwinSwords]

Slip?

Pink slip? Sin....did you get detention again?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Slip?

Not a slip and I do not think scribbs was maf like you suggested. Are you intentioanlly diaregarding my obvious soft?

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Intentionally, and disregarding

[Sin]

Out yourself harder, idiot.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Out yourself harder, idiot.

Out of the closet?

Oh wait, he already jumped out of it and onto the rainbow road of faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabulous.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Out yourself harder, idiot.

Then stop your scum push of the century dingle berry.

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Rainbows?

Tis one does not compute.

[Sin]

Then stop your scum push of the century dingle berry.

I call it like I see it.

[Assassin]

Mikey, don't softclaim for me bro.

[BladeTwinSwords]

C'mon people. We need more than just me, Sin, and Mikey posting all the time. We know Cyber is busy but you all have fuckin smartphones. USE THEM!

[Assassin]

I'm new and make mistakes all the time, softclaiming to try and help me really won't in the long run.

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I'm new and make mistakes all the time, softclaiming to try and help me really won't in the long run.

and there are an aweful lot of people being quiet, I'm decently sure Mikey, and Sin are in the clear. I know I am. I don't know about Blade or Phil just yet (Phil's been abnormally quiet, but that's metaing) and Cyber I think is just putting on a front about being busy all the time, because he answered posts like 4 in a row at certain points.

[Sin]

VOTE HOSHIRO-

I'm satisfied with this. Don't really care if anyone jumps on this wagon. His posts early Day 1 gave off a nasty vibe, as well as his drastic change in posting style from the latter parts of Day 1 to Day 2.

If anyone has any questions, let me know.

[hoshiro-]

That's an interesting notion to itself, and at this point in the game I have felt so useless to town and I am not good at deductions like you guys, all I have is my gut feelings which doesn't equate much. So if need be, I don't mind getting sacrificed for food so you guys can live on

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

VOTE HOSHIRO-

I'm satisfied with this. Don't really care if anyone jumps on this wagon. His posts early Day 1 gave off a nasty vibe, as well as his drastic change in posting style from the latter parts of Day 1 to Day 2.

If anyone has any questions, let me know.

Nooe, but vig should shot sin.

Unless hosh ends up maf. If hosh ends up maf, dont nk.

I feel like we need some sort o plan. Granted we technically have a mis lynch, we could go into day 3 in very bad shape if we dont make the right desicions

[Sin]

What do you propose then Mikey?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Mikey, don't softclaim for me bro.

Wth does this mean?

[Sin]

Nooe, but vig should shot sin.


Also, I'm assuming you meant "No one but the Vig should shoot Sin."?

Which is amusing because lel. Maf and SK will do whatever they want.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

What do you propose then Mikey?

I am not entierly sure. Thats why I presented it, so brain storm you tastys!

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Mikey, don't softclaim for me bro.
Still waiting for an explanation. Some time in this century plea.

[Sin]

You just asked him 2 minutes ago. Literally.

[Assassin]

I am not entierly sure. Thats why I presented it, so brain storm you tastys!

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Still waiting for an explanation. Some time in this century plea.

Dude thank you for covering for me and my PR, but you really don't need too. I need to learn to stand on my own two feet. nough said.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Dude thank you for covering for me and my PR, but you really don't need too. I need to learn to stand on my own two feet. nough said.

I want to fucking kill you for using "too" instead of "to"

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

The fuck you talkin bout.

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Ass are you claiming vig?

[Assassin]

I want to fucking kill you for using "too" instead of "to"

<3 your face too blade.

and no I'm not claiming anything.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

<3 your face too blade.

and no I'm not claiming anything.

I still have no idea wth you are talking about.... and would like an explanation

[Sin]

Dude thank you for covering for me and my PR, but you really don't need too. I need to learn to stand on my own two feet. nough said.

If Maf or the SK doesn't counter-claim this they're retarded.

[Assassin]

I still have no idea wth you are talking about.... and would like an explanation

pot calling the kettle dense then. It's all there in black and white.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Unless you are trolling or claiming tasty vt. Still not registering, I want an explanation.

[Assassin]

I wouldn't troll a game.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I wouldn't troll a game.

Then you are suggesting that I soft claimed your role.

[Assassin]

Then you are suggesting that I soft claimed your role.

duh. again thanks for the cover, but don't worry about it.

[minjae]

What the hell? I'm so confused....what the fuck is going on.

[Trigger Unhappy]

I think I have a tentative grasp on what both Mikey and Assassin are doing.. but that doesn't mean it makes sense to me. Glad I'm not the only one Minj...

[Sin]

One of you faggots should really retract.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

+++++road bike soon home can't respond 20 minutes to text for the win first send a pic I did not mean to say that I don't know how to say backspace

[Sin]

The predictive text on your phone has you saying "first send a pic".

You're a fucking perv dude.

[Trigger Unhappy]

The predictive text on your phone has you saying "first send a pic".

You're a fucking perv dude.

Lolled :lmao:

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Nooooo red handed!

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Roleblocker should out and lead.

[Sin]

Nooooo red handed!

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Roleblocker should out and lead.

Scummiest shit I've heard in this entire fucking thread. There's a fucking ongoing counter-claim in the works and you want someone else to claim? "Are you mad?" - Mikey 2014

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Scummiest shit I've heard in this entire fucking thread. There's a fucking ongoing counter-claim in the works and you want someone else to claim? "Are you mad?" - Mikey 2014

meh, was worth a shot. Also, i dont think this is a counter claim. At least i would hope assasian has at least 2 braincells to rub together.
If what i think about what ass did is true, then i have this to day. Good move but it wont work in this set up due to night scenes not showing roles and alignment. Your plan could be turned around tmrw and set me up.

I do not retract sin.

Now, if ass is fucking around and making a move.. he is snagged. I find it odd that he would say i was claiming his role, then not vote me. which is why i think he was attempting the above.

[Assassin]

Nah i just said thanks for covering me. Your obv a vt.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Nah i just said thanks for covering me. Your obv a vt.

you are joking right....

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enough of this shit

Vote assassin

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ifg what your trying to do is bus me into day 3... it wont work like that in this set up. If that isnt what you are trying to do then you are either a moron or evil.

[Trigger Unhappy]

This is such a clusterfuck... Mikey keeps calling Sins SK but wont vote for him.. Softclaims a town power rule and is getting counterclaimed. At the center of all of it is Mikey who I thought was town.. But fuck me, I have no fucking clue now.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

This is such a clusterfuck... Mikey keeps calling Sins SK but wont vote for him.. Softclaims a town power rule and is getting counterclaimed. At the center of all of it is Mikey who I thought was town.. But fuck me, I have no fucking clue now.

Yes you do. Im not 100% on sin being sk, thus havnt voted for him. I honestly think assasain is trying to bus me into day 3 by making the bad guys think he was actually the PR and taking the kill. He dosnt understand that that tactic wont work in this game due to the nature of night scenes.

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So he can either retract or i will be forced to hard claim, which may be his goal.

[Trigger Unhappy]

3rd option is that he hard claims.. in which case we have to figure out which one is lying.. but your reasoning of him trying to bus you makes some sense...

[CYBER]

Ok what the fuck did I just read on the last 2 pages? Assassin u aren't making any sense. Mikey and son, where did you guys see a claim and counter claim in the works? I don't get that.

What is bothering me this game is that I have been getting multiple vibes of certain power roles from many ppl at same time. Like the damn roleblocker, cop and vig.
And it feels like mikey and sin know more information about the behind scenes of night 1 (assuming any of their speculations) are true.

I'm giving the benefit of the doubt but yeah.
Possible SK : minjae, phil, sin with some high tech fancy plays putting himself dead centre of the town decision making.
Possible mafia : blade (very high on my damn shit list), Pass, Scribble (one of them obviously or else mafia gg), maaaybe hoshiro or trigger but those are backup backups, and not my focus.

As for the Town power roles, I've seen some hints here and there and certainly tend for some ppl to naturally have more "alleged" info than us, and yet not based on anything public, so it had to be from night? But then again I see mikey condos rly asking sin about being vig, sin asking about roleblocker and cop (dnt quote me on that forgot player name and on phone), so u can see that there's a lot of finger pointing and ppl asking others if they claimed.... And here is where I tell all trolls to hold their piece (looking at u assassin). If u troll when we're down in info and genuinely trying to see if we can collect more data, and u troll us, it will definitely be the end of a town life, usually yours, because u can see everyone on fucking high alert.


So after my last statement I ask assassin:WHAT IN THE NAME OF JUPITER'S COOK ARE U SAYING TO MIKEY?

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Also PR? Mikey I'm assuming u saying power role? Lol for a sec I thought it was an assassin typo until u wrote it again

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Ok what the fuck did I just read on the last 2 pages? Assassin u aren't making any sense. Mikey and son, where did you guys see a claim and counter claim in the works? I don't get that.

What is bothering me this game is that I have been getting multiple vibes of certain power roles from many ppl at same time. Like the damn roleblocker, cop and vig.
And it feels like mikey and sin know more information about the behind scenes of night 1 (assuming any of their speculations) are true.

I'm giving the benefit of the doubt but yeah.
Possible SK : minjae, phil, sin with some high tech fancy plays putting himself dead centre of the town decision making.
Possible mafia : blade (very high on my damn shit list), Pass, Scribble (one of them obviously or else mafia gg), maaaybe hoshiro or trigger but those are backup backups, and not my focus.

As for the Town power roles, I've seen some hints here and there and certainly tend for some ppl to naturally have more "alleged" info than us, and yet not based on anything public, so it had to be from night? But then again I see mikey condos rly asking sin about being vig, sin asking about roleblocker and cop (dnt quote me on that forgot player name and on phone), so u can see that there's a lot of finger pointing and ppl asking others if they claimed.... And here is where I tell all trolls to hold their piece (looking at u assassin). If u troll when we're down in info and genuinely trying to see if we can collect more data, and u troll us, it will definitely be the end of a town life, usually yours, because u can see everyone on fucking high alert.


So after my last statement I ask assassin:WHAT IN THE NAME OF JUPITER'S COOK ARE U SAYING TO MIKEY?

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Also PR? Mikey I'm assuming u saying power role? Lol for a sec I thought it was an assassin typo until u wrote it again

PR = Power Role. A generic claim. I.e. in a C9 game were the PR's are cop and doc/bomb/ ect. A bomb dosnt want to out they are bomb, so they say PR or doc or somthing.
Which reminds me, An off the current subject point id like to make. Alot of you have this "lynch liars" policy. However, sometimes, a townie needs to lie to bait and trap maf. I.e. being a bomb and lying by claiming doc.

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Anyways, i want assasian to speak. Id also like everyone else to share there thoughts on this current situation.

[I'm a zambi]

Id also like everyone else to share there thoughts on this current situation.
*Zambi's noose twists in the breeze revealing an ominous expression*

:smirk:

[phil.™]

PR = Power Role. A generic claim. I.e. in a C9 game were the PR's are cop and doc/bomb/ ect. A bomb dosnt want to out they are bomb, so they say PR or doc or somthing.
Which reminds me, An off the current subject point id like to make. Alot of you have this "lynch liars" policy. However, sometimes, a townie needs to lie to bait and trap maf. I.e. being a bomb and lying by claiming doc.

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Anyways, i want assasian to speak. Id also like everyone else to share there thoughts on this current situation.

I have too many "what-if" situations that are probably very, very wrong.