ibis.a | UDKS | ߧ | 10-18-14

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Admin's name: ibis.a | UDKS | ߧ
Your name: P a p i . R a c i s t
Server: ZM
Map: ze_sorrento_escape_v5
Date & Time: 10-18-14; around 4pm CST

How did he/she abuse: slapped me off the floating barrel into the water in order to end the round. This is not an illegal spot. This admin has a proven history of making up his own rules (see my last abuse thread of him). A ULA and other admins in-game agreed with me and encouraged me to report this.

Proof: See attached demo (compressed in RAR file for size) at approx. 37500k tick.

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[Xerenix]

I talked this over with anex and he said that staying on that barrel was considered delaying the round, so while i agreed with you at the time, i told you guys a few minutes after that it wasn't abuse when he pushed you off.

[phil.™]

Racist, you know this is delay of round. You know this well.

[sup]

The barrel has always been legal last I checked. Like, this has been discussed plenty of times and I've always heard it's legal. If Anex just changed that now suddenly (I didn't see Xerenix mention it, I was afk for a few) fine, that's how it's been for as long as I remember.

[I'm a zambi]

If the barrel on Sorrento is illegal then the buoy on Icecap should be too (and it's not). They're both virtually unreachable once a CT gets to them and they're both used to delay the round. I don't really care which way it goes (both being illegal or neither) but there needs to be some kind of consistency with these things so that the same slaps/slays/kicks/bans/whatever-keeps-happening doesn't keep happening.

[jimmay]

If the barrel on Sorrento is illegal then the buoy on Icecap should be too (and it's not). They're both virtually unreachable once a CT gets to them and they're both used to delay the round. I don't really care which way it goes (both being illegal or neither) but there needs to be some kind of consistency with these things so that the same slaps/slays/kicks/bans/whatever-keeps-happening doesn't keep happening.

A difference I see is that the buoy in icecap can be reached as part of a map secret without admin intervention (i.e.: turning on parachutes). The only way to reach the barrel in sorrento (once it's been shot over and into the water a bit) is with chutes enabled which they aren't by default. With the buoy, zombies have to plan ahead and intercept the orange before it reaches the buoy (or island). In sorrento, a zombie could reach the barrel at any point in the map prior to the nuke and prevent a human from using it, either by staying on it or disturbing the barrel to prevent anyone else from landing on it.

All that said, I think buoy on icecap should be legal and if chutes weren't enabled on sorrento then this and the "safe" water area wouldn't be a problem. Disable chutes on sorrento. That might not make sorrento as much fun to play but fuck sorrento. #harrypotter24_7

[Steamer]

Barrel is legal. Part of map. You zombies should stop the survivor. This is NOT 99% impossible. This is not delaying. Since 2006? I remember this being done. The nit picking around here makes shit mundane for many people. Enough.

UPDATE! : I still can't admin abuse threads.... Nice to know being one of the only four? clan members out of? still active....

[Xerenix]

Barrel is legal. Part of map. You zombies should stop the survivor. This is NOT 99% impossible. This is not delaying. Since 2006? I remember this being done. The nit picking around here makes shit mundane for many people. Enough.

UPDATE! : I still can't admin abuse threads.... Nice to know being one of the only four? clan members out of? still active....

I agree with this which is why i agreed with it at the beginning but now comes the question, if the ct on the barrel is only survivor, what is allowed to stop the delay? Should we slay the Ts or slay/slap the CT on the barrel just as UDKS did?

This really DO need clarification because 2 Clan members have appearantly different views on the issue.

[euronews]

for one its actually pretty hard to land on that barrel.. not everyone can do it

[Steamer]

If it's in a position after the rescue boats leave with zombies, that makes it untaggable, then that is delaying. I guess that's what really happened here. Reference icecap more, but a few poisons can tag buoy. Also, there wasn't a delay rule way back then, we didn't suck so bad and we didn't need new rules for assholes. :icon_mrgreen:

[anex]

A difference I see is that the buoy in icecap can be reached as part of a map secret without admin intervention (i.e.: turning on parachutes). The only way to reach the barrel in sorrento (once it's been shot over and into the water a bit) is with chutes enabled which they aren't by default. With the buoy, zombies have to plan ahead and intercept the orange before it reaches the buoy (or island). In sorrento, a zombie could reach the barrel at any point in the map prior to the nuke and prevent a human from using it, either by staying on it or disturbing the barrel to prevent anyone else from landing on it.

All that said, I think buoy on icecap should be legal and if chutes weren't enabled on sorrento then this and the "safe" water area wouldn't be a problem. Disable chutes on sorrento. That might not make sorrento as much fun to play but fuck sorrento. #harrypotter24_7

This is exactly my thought process regarding the barrel. The barrel has always been a fun joke spot to see if you could land on it. However you have to have chutes to get it and it's a pretty creative and funny way to survive. How ever it was not built into the map like icecap was. We should probably make the round time on sorrento shorter so that when people go the barrel route, they only have to hold up 20 seconds as opposed to 2 full minutes.

[iNoToRiOuS]

If the CT is the last survivor, and is on the barrel while the boats have already left, then are you allowed to slap, slay, or burn? Yes, zombies are still able to try to tag him or her, but he or she is still intentionally delaying.

[Steamer]

Btw, chutes are disabled on sorrento. It's up to the admin to enable at round end and deal with barrel delay from chute. Without chute zombies can tag barrelers. The map should be timed with boat end anyhow.

[Xerenix]

The map should be timed with boat end anyhow.

Well the boats don't go until someone starts the lever so timing it would be difficult.

[Steamer]

I forgot... Lol

[maynard]

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