(iReaper) Benihime STEAM_0:0:50856523 10-02-13

[Carmichal]

Tbh this evidence is mostly circumstantial. Is he dumb? Yes. He should of pulled the demo and used that. Tradition has been to use demos as proof and there is none. And he used it in spec not as a means to cheat. Dumb? Yes. Ban him? No. I think clan should handle this.

[Bane of Soldiers]

Any human being who has access to CSS has access to an internet bowser as well as google. This allows any player to have "accessibility" to a hack.

Semantics won't help ya here bud

[CYBER]

Any human being who has access to CSS has access to an internet bowser as well as google. This allows any player to have "accessibility" to a hack. I was at his house moments ago when you said and I quote "I've wanted this for a long time" That sounds very personal, I know more about this situation than you think Cyber.

oh dude dont take me wrong.
Banning Benhime gives me cheer joy because, indeed, i wanted to do that long time ago... AS AN ADMIN vs A HACKER. not as Cyber vs Benihime...
As much as i hate to admit it ,,, i kinda liked the fucker in the last few days we talked... and i know he enjoyed our chats too...


Heck, you're next on my list, and im still gonna enjoy banning you, and a few other ppl that will slip one day.
THat doesn't mean that i would want to fake conversations, i dont need to, im not that low. I just took the opportunity to screencap what he told me , just in case, discussed it among ppl live, and was asked the next day to carry out a ban due to the proof collected.

As simple as that.

[brett friggin favre]

Tbh this evidence is mostly circumstantial. Is he dumb? Yes. He should of pulled the demo and used that. Tradition has been to use demos as proof and there is none. And he used it in spec not as a means to cheat. Dumb? Yes. Ban him? No. I think clan should handle this.

clan will have the final say as always, but spasm did give his blessing based off of the admission of turning them on in the server alone. still have that conversation open if necessary but i'm sure he'll post here tomorrow.

not to mention the precedent linked by cyber to one of my previous bans based solely off of a steam confession, which inthebutt made perma.

[inneruniverse435]

Cyber, I would severely question any validity of this, you claim providing sufficient proof is "tedious" or potentially difficult, I say you're wrong. I believe you have altered a lot during these encounters, but just like you, I can't prove anything, so I won't speculate. Benihime has done no wrong, or damage, banning someone with literally no evidence still goes against this clans integrity.

[CYBER]

Cyber, I would severely question any validity of this, you claim providing sufficient proof is "tedious" or potentially difficult, I say you're wrong. I believe you have altered a lot during these encounters, but just like you, I can't prove anything, so I won't speculate. Benihime has done no wrong, or damage, banning someone with literally no evidence still goes against this clans integrity.

ya know what? say wtvr shit u want.
I've been doing this for soo long it stopped being funny (well.. mostly).

I will ask everyone 1 question, do we believe the upper level admin Cyber who's been doing his job the RIGHT way? and backed by screenshots, text caps, copy pasted conversations live, another ULA, and Clanners? is he credible?

or do we chose to believe 2 iReaper NEIGHBOURS who are on the spot, caught red handed.

Especially since both of them have been suspected of hacking by many many players? including some ulas and some other clanners?

Now lets see who ppl believe? I wonder....

edit: i know i sound full of myself (well.. i am) but its just to prove a point. I have no reason to lose my LONG-built credibility over the likes of them. As simple as that.

[Dj panda]

This reminds me of the fluffy thread, it cannot be a perma ban Because as long as we dont have proof that he used it on our server we cannot ban him.

[Assassin]

Just let the clan deal with it. I believe some kind of censure should happen...I don't know what though. Hence why I'm not clan.

[Spasm]

This reminds me of the fluffy thread, it cannot be a perma ban Because as long as we dont have proof that he used it on our server we cannot ban him.

This has nothing to do with fluffy as fluffy never came out and said he was using he hacks, he was just being accused of them on other sites. Mistral and Benihme have been problems on the wcs server for a while now. Both were caught blatantly level farming and Benihime being an admin. I was being told of this conversation anyways and the dude straight up admitted to hacking on our servers. Cyber doesn't give enough shit to try and mod a screenshot to get someone banned. Permaban imo and it was what I will vote. Closed.

[ZERO]

Where is the proof this was in our servers? You also say he was being used to help detect hacks...

There is also a lot of missing information here...

Lastly the bans for people admitting to hacks has been in cases where said users were encouraging the use of hacks on the servers and trying to spread / distribute them.

In context I see references to hacks being used to make claims against an alleged actual hacker on the server.

We need some more information here.