(iReaper) Benihime STEAM_0:0:50856523 10-02-13

[inneruniverse435]

It's painfully obvious how much Cyber has either altered, or intentionally laid out a fraction of a conversation leading to something being thrown very far out of context. When dealing with only text on a screen, situations are very easily misconstrued and he is trying to take advantage of that fully.

He has never admitted even one time using a hack in IBIS, but merely attempting to get a understanding to a situation that was clearly impossible by a fellow player by joining spectator on very rare occasions as this minimal amount of conversation would suggest. As you could most likely respect, the best way to catch a criminal is to be a criminal, as history would show this is true even on Counter Strike. In almost every piece of Cybers so called evidence he not only apologized for having to use the hacks but also had substantial amount of evidence supporting his logic and reasoning and proceeded to turn them off before playing once more on your servers.

There has clearly been not a single demo or anything that could possibly be deemed so much as even temp ban worthy based on the (what I would considering to be almost embarrassing to post) little amount of information that has been shown here. Not to mention how easily I could photoshop any one of you into admitting you have hacks, I can't say this lack of information is to even be trusted.

I would think this would be embarrassing for your reputation to even be considering this let alone implementing.

Regards,
InnerUniverse435

[brett friggin favre]

It's painfully obvious how much Cyber has either altered, or intentionally laid out a fraction of a conversation leading to something being thrown very far out of context. When dealing with only text on a screen, situations are very easily misconstrued and he is trying to take advantage of that fully.

He has never admitted even one time using a hack in IBIS, but merely attempting to get a understanding to a situation that was clearly impossible by a fellow player by joining spectator on very rare occasions as this minimal amount of conversation would suggest. As you could most likely respect, the best way to catch a criminal is to be a criminal, as history would show this is true even on Counter Strike. In almost every piece of Cybers so called evidence he not only apologized for having to use the hacks but also had substantial amount of evidence supporting his logic and reasoning and proceeded to turn them off before playing once more on your servers.

There has clearly been not a single demo or anything that could possibly be deemed so much as even temp ban worthy based on the (what I would considering to be almost embarrassing to post) little amount of information that has been shown here. Not to mention how easily I could photoshop any one of you into admitting you have hacks, I can't say this lack of information is to even be trusted.

I would think this would be embarrassing for your reputation to even be considering this let alone implementing.

Regards,
InnerUniverse435

with no due respect mistral, you trying to bail beni out here doesn't exactly help his case. you're accusing an upper level admin of manipulating evidence. if cyber was gonna do something like that, believe me he would've done it looong before now, and a lot more people would be banned based off of "doctored" steam conversations. like...fuck i'd probably be banned if cyber had a proclivity of doctoring steam conversations.

[inneruniverse435]

There is no disrespect to be given, this is merely to be contested. I'm simply stating facts about this situation, and no accusations were made, but merely more options to consider. The facts still remain that nothing has been done to affect IBIS in any way, shape, or form. Can anyone really contest that?

[brett friggin favre]

There is no disrespect to be given, this is merely to be contested. I'm simply stating facts about this situation, and no accusations were made, but merely more options to consider. The facts still remain that nothing has been done to affect IBIS in any way, shape, or form. Can anyone really contest that?

he has admitted to having a hacking program, to using it, and to activating it while on ibis servers. allow me to quote the rules:

"I. Hacking
2) The use of a program or textures or settings to see though walls
A) wall hacks, prefire, esp"

just the use, the act of activating such a program is considered hacking and is a perma bannable offense, whether done in spec or in-game.

[CYBER]

It's painfully obvious how much Cyber has either altered, or intentionally laid out a fraction of a conversation leading to something being thrown very far out of context. When dealing with only text on a screen, situations are very easily misconstrued and he is trying to take advantage of that fully.

He has never admitted even one time using a hack in IBIS, but merely attempting to get a understanding to a situation that was clearly impossible by a fellow player by joining spectator on very rare occasions as this minimal amount of conversation would suggest. As you could most likely respect, the best way to catch a criminal is to be a criminal, as history would show this is true even on Counter Strike. In almost every piece of Cybers so called evidence he not only apologized for having to use the hacks but also had substantial amount of evidence supporting his logic and reasoning and proceeded to turn them off before playing once more on your servers.

There has clearly been not a single demo or anything that could possibly be deemed so much as even temp ban worthy based on the (what I would considering to be almost embarrassing to post) little amount of information that has been shown here. Not to mention how easily I could photoshop any one of you into admitting you have hacks, I can't say this lack of information is to even be trusted.

I would think this would be embarrassing for your reputation to even be considering this let alone implementing.

Regards,
InnerUniverse435

i didnt manipulate the chat, everything was copy pasted into a text file, and many chats were given out to ulas and clan members during the conversations themselves.
The only reason why the rest is in text its bcos its fucking tedious as fuck to get screen caps of EVERYTHING on steam.
now, if u wanna be a dick about it , im pretty sure that conversations STORE on iphone steam right? So if i went there and started screen capping some random shit said on steam, would i still be able to modify those , buddy? >_<

That being said, the hacks ADMITTANCE was not in a text file, it's in a screenshot picture (and i damn well made sure it was a screenshot and not text) to confirm credibility. Not to mention that the other ulas and clan members have copied text of the entire conversation DURING the conversation, copy pasted each time smthn was added... it would be down right impossible for me to edit out some parts right now to post a thread and still be synchronized with all the shit i sent out already.

he admitted to turning the hacks on IN IBIS... whether he used htem or not, i dnt care. but that just means that he has them accessible in ibis and easily toggled on and off... how do u expect me to just "let that go" and be sure he will never use them in game while playing too ?

and honestly? why would i need to go that far? im just doing my job, i have no personal vendetta against benhime and we're cool as far as daily life goes... so please mistral, know ur facts before u speculate and claim it as facts.

[inneruniverse435]

Any human being who has access to CSS has access to an internet bowser as well as google. This allows any player to have "accessibility" to a hack. I was at his house moments ago when you said and I quote "I've wanted this for a long time" That sounds very personal, I know more about this situation than you think Cyber.

[Bane of Soldiers]

Any human being who has access to CSS has access to an internet bowser as well as google. This allows any player to have "accessibility" to a hack.

Semantics won't help ya here bud

[CYBER]

Any human being who has access to CSS has access to an internet bowser as well as google. This allows any player to have "accessibility" to a hack. I was at his house moments ago when you said and I quote "I've wanted this for a long time" That sounds very personal, I know more about this situation than you think Cyber.

oh dude dont take me wrong.
Banning Benhime gives me cheer joy because, indeed, i wanted to do that long time ago... AS AN ADMIN vs A HACKER. not as Cyber vs Benihime...
As much as i hate to admit it ,,, i kinda liked the fucker in the last few days we talked... and i know he enjoyed our chats too...


Heck, you're next on my list, and im still gonna enjoy banning you, and a few other ppl that will slip one day.
THat doesn't mean that i would want to fake conversations, i dont need to, im not that low. I just took the opportunity to screencap what he told me , just in case, discussed it among ppl live, and was asked the next day to carry out a ban due to the proof collected.

As simple as that.

[inneruniverse435]

Cyber, I would severely question any validity of this, you claim providing sufficient proof is "tedious" or potentially difficult, I say you're wrong. I believe you have altered a lot during these encounters, but just like you, I can't prove anything, so I won't speculate. Benihime has done no wrong, or damage, banning someone with literally no evidence still goes against this clans integrity.

[CYBER]

Cyber, I would severely question any validity of this, you claim providing sufficient proof is "tedious" or potentially difficult, I say you're wrong. I believe you have altered a lot during these encounters, but just like you, I can't prove anything, so I won't speculate. Benihime has done no wrong, or damage, banning someone with literally no evidence still goes against this clans integrity.

ya know what? say wtvr shit u want.
I've been doing this for soo long it stopped being funny (well.. mostly).

I will ask everyone 1 question, do we believe the upper level admin Cyber who's been doing his job the RIGHT way? and backed by screenshots, text caps, copy pasted conversations live, another ULA, and Clanners? is he credible?

or do we chose to believe 2 iReaper NEIGHBOURS who are on the spot, caught red handed.

Especially since both of them have been suspected of hacking by many many players? including some ulas and some other clanners?

Now lets see who ppl believe? I wonder....

edit: i know i sound full of myself (well.. i am) but its just to prove a point. I have no reason to lose my LONG-built credibility over the likes of them. As simple as that.