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Thread: (iReaper) Benihime STEAM_0:0:50856523 10-02-13

  1. Default (iReaper) Benihime STEAM_0:0:50856523 10-02-13

    Name : Benhime (aka iReaper G0Dlike)
    Steam id : STEAM_0:0:50856523
    Banned by : Cyber (sorry bud)
    Reason : Admitting of toggling walls on ibis servers.
    Link to ban: http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans...856523&Submit=


    Similar case involving someone admitting hacks and backed up by Clan member ITB:
    http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/sho...ighlight=milky


    Benhime has been my C.I (That's confidential informant for all u cop-show-ignorant-ppl) in game whenever he spots some weird shit... But as much as i hate
    doing this, using ANY hacks on the ibis servers regardless of the intention is strictly prohibited.

    And apparently Benhime has both aim and wallhacks INSTALLED and hacks on other servers. He vowed that he never used them in ibis, and that we would never find a demo of him doing so... but then he slipped and told me he toggled walls in game to spec another suspected hacker... And you can tell by the reaction that it wasn't a joke...


    benhime wall toggle.PNG


    continuation of image conversation above:
    6:41 AM - ßSNìHí?S: honestly if i can prove this kids hacking i really dont care if i get banned not that im trying to but if that was something i should be
    perma'd for dont you think its bad for a ula to hide that?
    (Cyber's comment NOW: that is true. that is why im posting this as we speak bud.)
    ßSNìHí?S is now playing Counter-Strike: Source. Click here to join.
    6:42 AM - Cyber ibis.a: but yeah... i wouldnt do that
    6:43 AM - Cyber ibis.a: ibis has a strict policy on hcaks
    6:43 AM - Cyber ibis.a: honestly?
    6:43 AM - Cyber ibis.a: we dont give a flying fuck if someone hacked on another server
    6:43 AM - Cyber ibis.a: we dont ban ppl for hacks even if we had a demo of them hacking somewhere else
    6:43 AM - Cyber ibis.a: god knows how many ppl hacked somewhere else in the day
    6:43 AM - ßSNìHí?S: everyone
    6:43 AM - ßSNìHí?S: lol
    6:43 AM - Cyber ibis.a: we do however perma ban ONLY (and i mean ONLY) if its done in ibis
    6:43 AM - Cyber ibis.a: as simple as that
    6:44 AM - Cyber ibis.a: this is how im able to talk to u about hacks in general
    6:44 AM - ßSNìHí?S: does the demo have walls?
    6:44 AM - Cyber ibis.a: but dont take me wrong , if u tried to turn on hacks in game (even to help like this case)
    6:44 AM - Cyber ibis.a: its still a perma ban violation xD


    Some other conversation we had:
    ßSNìHí?S: I have hacks
    ßSNìHí?S: I dont use them
    ßSNìHí?S: But I have them
    ßSNìHí?S: And trust me
    Cyber ibis.a: i think evreyone does
    ßSNìHí?S: You'd know if I used them
    ßSNìHí?S: I have this
    ßSNìHí?S: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLAuyb2_gL4
    Cyber ibis.a: whats this
    ßSNìHí?S: Look at that youtube video
    ßSNìHí?S: Enhanced aims "RageBot"
    ßSNìHí?S: 70$ program


    <speculation start>
    Now i think we all know that THIS specific aimbot has yet to be seen in our servers by Benhime (although he's pulled some bs shots before, assuming you can tweak it to be more subtle,
    but there's smthn that doesn't feel right and it's the fact that he called on a certain player and specifically mentionned "reduced humanized recoil + aim assist", and that it's "almost undetectable when they work together", and my personal finisher line " trust me, i would know" ....


    So when someone has that knowledge about these hacks and is willing to pay the buck for a crappy ragebot (allegedly) which can be tweaked btw, wouldn't it be better to spend the money on this superior brand of hacks?
    </ end speculation>


    Personally i got nthn against benhime as he's been providing me with a few inside stories on some suspected hackers, but it's THIS comment that made me think that we shouldnt let him around:
    (paraphrasing, but brett has the full conversation stored in a mail):
    Benhime: "No matter how long you watch me, or demo me, you will never find any proof of me hacking on ibis" ....
    Personally i see it as being confident that he wont be caught if he were to use the hacks that HE ALREADY HAS TOGGLE-READY.


    Good Guy Benhime dropped me a few names of people he knows hack, or is almost sure they hack,
    and let this be a warning to that list of people:
    You're next.

    ps: I REALLY must thank BALTO ibis.a for pointing me in the right direction towards benhime and some other people.
    I wouldn't have been stubborn enough to go through with it without ya.
    Last edited by CYBER; 02-10-2013 at 02:10 AM.
    Started from bottom. Now we here. <IBIS>


    Quote Originally Posted by ZERO View Post
    Trying to hack in IBIS is like trying to kill someone in a police station, not the best idea...

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    well...yep.

    based on precedent, this should be perma.

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    It's painfully obvious how much Cyber has either altered, or intentionally laid out a fraction of a conversation leading to something being thrown very far out of context. When dealing with only text on a screen, situations are very easily misconstrued and he is trying to take advantage of that fully.

    He has never admitted even one time using a hack in IBIS, but merely attempting to get a understanding to a situation that was clearly impossible by a fellow player by joining spectator on very rare occasions as this minimal amount of conversation would suggest. As you could most likely respect, the best way to catch a criminal is to be a criminal, as history would show this is true even on Counter Strike. In almost every piece of Cybers so called evidence he not only apologized for having to use the hacks but also had substantial amount of evidence supporting his logic and reasoning and proceeded to turn them off before playing once more on your servers.

    There has clearly been not a single demo or anything that could possibly be deemed so much as even temp ban worthy based on the (what I would considering to be almost embarrassing to post) little amount of information that has been shown here. Not to mention how easily I could photoshop any one of you into admitting you have hacks, I can't say this lack of information is to even be trusted.

    I would think this would be embarrassing for your reputation to even be considering this let alone implementing.

    Regards,
    InnerUniverse435

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    Quote Originally Posted by inneruniverse435 View Post
    It's painfully obvious how much Cyber has either altered, or intentionally laid out a fraction of a conversation leading to something being thrown very far out of context. When dealing with only text on a screen, situations are very easily misconstrued and he is trying to take advantage of that fully.

    He has never admitted even one time using a hack in IBIS, but merely attempting to get a understanding to a situation that was clearly impossible by a fellow player by joining spectator on very rare occasions as this minimal amount of conversation would suggest. As you could most likely respect, the best way to catch a criminal is to be a criminal, as history would show this is true even on Counter Strike. In almost every piece of Cybers so called evidence he not only apologized for having to use the hacks but also had substantial amount of evidence supporting his logic and reasoning and proceeded to turn them off before playing once more on your servers.

    There has clearly been not a single demo or anything that could possibly be deemed so much as even temp ban worthy based on the (what I would considering to be almost embarrassing to post) little amount of information that has been shown here. Not to mention how easily I could photoshop any one of you into admitting you have hacks, I can't say this lack of information is to even be trusted.

    I would think this would be embarrassing for your reputation to even be considering this let alone implementing.

    Regards,
    InnerUniverse435
    with no due respect mistral, you trying to bail beni out here doesn't exactly help his case. you're accusing an upper level admin of manipulating evidence. if cyber was gonna do something like that, believe me he would've done it looong before now, and a lot more people would be banned based off of "doctored" steam conversations. like...fuck i'd probably be banned if cyber had a proclivity of doctoring steam conversations.

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    The magician longs to see
    One chants out between two worlds:
    Fire, walk with me.

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    There is no disrespect to be given, this is merely to be contested. I'm simply stating facts about this situation, and no accusations were made, but merely more options to consider. The facts still remain that nothing has been done to affect IBIS in any way, shape, or form. Can anyone really contest that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by inneruniverse435 View Post
    It's painfully obvious how much Cyber has either altered, or intentionally laid out a fraction of a conversation leading to something being thrown very far out of context. When dealing with only text on a screen, situations are very easily misconstrued and he is trying to take advantage of that fully.

    He has never admitted even one time using a hack in IBIS, but merely attempting to get a understanding to a situation that was clearly impossible by a fellow player by joining spectator on very rare occasions as this minimal amount of conversation would suggest. As you could most likely respect, the best way to catch a criminal is to be a criminal, as history would show this is true even on Counter Strike. In almost every piece of Cybers so called evidence he not only apologized for having to use the hacks but also had substantial amount of evidence supporting his logic and reasoning and proceeded to turn them off before playing once more on your servers.

    There has clearly been not a single demo or anything that could possibly be deemed so much as even temp ban worthy based on the (what I would considering to be almost embarrassing to post) little amount of information that has been shown here. Not to mention how easily I could photoshop any one of you into admitting you have hacks, I can't say this lack of information is to even be trusted.

    I would think this would be embarrassing for your reputation to even be considering this let alone implementing.

    Regards,
    InnerUniverse435

    i didnt manipulate the chat, everything was copy pasted into a text file, and many chats were given out to ulas and clan members during the conversations themselves.
    The only reason why the rest is in text its bcos its fucking tedious as fuck to get screen caps of EVERYTHING on steam.
    now, if u wanna be a dick about it , im pretty sure that conversations STORE on iphone steam right? So if i went there and started screen capping some random shit said on steam, would i still be able to modify those , buddy? >_<

    That being said, the hacks ADMITTANCE was not in a text file, it's in a screenshot picture (and i damn well made sure it was a screenshot and not text) to confirm credibility. Not to mention that the other ulas and clan members have copied text of the entire conversation DURING the conversation, copy pasted each time smthn was added... it would be down right impossible for me to edit out some parts right now to post a thread and still be synchronized with all the shit i sent out already.

    he admitted to turning the hacks on IN IBIS... whether he used htem or not, i dnt care. but that just means that he has them accessible in ibis and easily toggled on and off... how do u expect me to just "let that go" and be sure he will never use them in game while playing too ?

    and honestly? why would i need to go that far? im just doing my job, i have no personal vendetta against benhime and we're cool as far as daily life goes... so please mistral, know ur facts before u speculate and claim it as facts.
    Started from bottom. Now we here. <IBIS>


    Quote Originally Posted by ZERO View Post
    Trying to hack in IBIS is like trying to kill someone in a police station, not the best idea...

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    Quote Originally Posted by inneruniverse435 View Post
    There is no disrespect to be given, this is merely to be contested. I'm simply stating facts about this situation, and no accusations were made, but merely more options to consider. The facts still remain that nothing has been done to affect IBIS in any way, shape, or form. Can anyone really contest that?
    he has admitted to having a hacking program, to using it, and to activating it while on ibis servers. allow me to quote the rules:

    "I. Hacking
    2) The use of a program or textures or settings to see though walls
    A) wall hacks, prefire, esp
    "

    just the use, the act of activating such a program is considered hacking and is a perma bannable offense, whether done in spec or in-game.

    Through the darkness of futures past,
    The magician longs to see
    One chants out between two worlds:
    Fire, walk with me.

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    Any human being who has access to CSS has access to an internet bowser as well as google. This allows any player to have "accessibility" to a hack. I was at his house moments ago when you said and I quote "I've wanted this for a long time" That sounds very personal, I know more about this situation than you think Cyber.

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