IBIS G0D
You have ignored my entire you baiting us argument and our trying to bull rush the conversation elsewhere. I'm fully aware I have a target on my back from the last game we played, and I know that the mafia is probably gonna off me the first chance they get, so I am doing what I can to make sure the Town is on the right track while I can, so far a few of you have shown yourself to be likely mafia candidates, so the more I get you talking the better off things will be.
I hit Brett right in the feels.
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unvote brett
I think either locust is mafia or retarded...will consider futher. we all know he was stupid enough to lick the herpies off brits booty hole so I wouldn't put it past him.
after 30 whole seconds of critical thinking I vote loucust cause he's retarded. Stupid people tend to bring down everyone else. So even if he is a townie we lynched a retard, which is a good as lynching a mafia goon imo.
While I'm on retards. I'm still waiting for you to drink bleach spasm. I still remember your shit dumb ass hole move. I cannot wait for the day you do the deed. This is why I'm lynching locust, because fuck 'em downies.
case closed
vote locust
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I did comment on it, remember when I said I wasn't sure if you're stupid or lying? that fits in there.Originally Posted by What
Also, that is the biggest bullshit statement I've ever heard! No one has said you are a target, why on earth would you make a case that you are? again, I'm not sure if it's that your new to this or lying. It's the morning of the first day and you're acting like you've done so much good there's no way you wont die. That seems extremely suspicious, or at least extremely foolish.
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And since you're "dead anyways" why don't you tell us what your role is?
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Dear, Dear Nemesis,
You are only cementing yourself as either a retard who has been feigning intelligence this whole time through extensive google searches or again, trying to misdirect. It is clear that you are at the very least lying about your motives, especially your continued failed logic of supporting no lynch as a viable option. I believe you may be trying to do good, albeit in the most half assed and moronic way possible, but its far more likely you are just trying to have some good ol'mafia fun since your game was cut short last time. Saying I am lying is not a viable response to an accusation.
I hit Brett right in the feels.
IBIS G0D
Please. Please detail each scenario, the first with a no lynch and the second with a town lynch, and show how one is better. Please I want to believe you're not a fucking chin licker but its just. so. hard.
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Also, What has refused to explain why he has lied twice already and attempts to bury it in a mass of falsehoods.
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lets say for shits and giggles 8 town, 6 mafia or you know what I'll do you one better 10 town 4 mafia. We no lynch, day 2 roles around either 9 town 4 mafia, or 8 town 4 mafia due to a killer role being out there. Now lets see what has the town learned from day 1? not a fucking thing, same problem, but now its even more important for a mafia to be lynched, but there is no new information to go off of, just red herrings of "well that guy seemed to be against that guy and so forth. Result: Only a weakening of the town, and most importantly no benefit what so ever for the town can be derived from this choice, it is a lose lose choice.
Now we vote to lynch someone on day one. Its not a shot in the dark its based off of likely suspects derived from their actions, and/or eliminating a weak link who will only confuse us at best. Scenario 1: A mafia gets killed, day 2: 9 town 3 mafia or 8 town 3 mafia. We know can look back at who defended the guy who was mafia, even if only indirectly and make better decisions, also if a cop is in play, then we will be able to start picking off targets no problem and town wins.
Worst case from a lynch, we take out a townie, and any townie who gets lynched on day one clearly wasn't bringing anything to the table anyway. We can also look at who stumped for that guy the most and then pick out the fact they are likely mafia, still a win.
But a the most basic level: to vote to lynch allows the possibility of a win win scenario. Either on day 1 or day 2 we are going to have to roll the dice on someone, there is possible benefit from taking this chance on day 1, by not taking it we can only hurt ourselves.
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Also where in the fuck did I lie? All I see is you not liking the interpretation of the facts which I presented in favor of your interpretation, which you have a vested interest in lying about.
I hit Brett right in the feels.
IBIS G0D
Since this is still an educational game for new players, I want everyone to look closely at what What has said here and know that this is one of the worst strategies possible for the game. Lesson over.
First you skew the numbers to make you look better. I'm going to go through with your same ratios and show you what happens with a random lynch.
10 Ts, 4Ms (which is wrong by the way, we know for sure that there are neutrals or neutral evils). In the town side you probably have something like a cop, an investigator, a vigilanty, a doc or two, maybe a whore. No one has been allowed to use their abilities yet since it's the first day. You want to random lynch? YOU HAVE A 72% CHANCE TO KILL A TOWNIE! 72%! How is that a good gamble? So you random lynch, do you get lucky and lynch a mafia? maybe. Or do you lynch one of the cops, thus cutting your knowledge down by 50% or do you take out your own doc, thus making it not possible for the investigators' to reveal their information early on as they would be too vulnerable. Now you would also have the mafia who will 100% kill a townie so there's another hit you take. What are the chances of loosing two docs or two investigators? only about 15% is that good enough for you?
With no lynch the first day you are still losing a townie at night, but with this many people you'll be in ok shape as the investigators (hopefully you have two) will ONLY SAY WHAT THEY ARE ONCE THEY FOUND OUT WHO THE MAFIA IS!!!! <-- hint. and then can be protected after a positive lynch at night, thus extending the days.
Now, on to you lying.
I've provided evidence to exactly what I said and did, you did not. You refuse to, only spouting that "Nemesis lied" Yet you refuse to back it up with anything.
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Its clear that you are trying to mislead everyone here. The percentages are meaningless and your continued instance on it being a blind or random lynch displays your ignorance once again. It is not blind, and you still did not address the issue of how in the fuck day 2 is any better of choice to start guessing rather than day 1? No lynch is nothing but lose lose, that alone is enough to disqualify if from being a viable option.
It is clear that we are on two different sides here, either that you are the biggest retard that has every graced the pages of IBIS, and since I know thecat is a person, I know that can't be true, so you must be intentionally trying to fuck the town over. When I die and everyone sees that I am a townie, it is my last will and testament that Nemesis be murdered with his own severed penis choking the life out of him.
I hit Brett right in the feels.
IBIS
I'm pretty sure that in the last game, WHAT posted an assessment of what happened in the game, and he mentioned smthn along the lines of "you guys went for the no lynch and basically gave us the win because we could just pick you guys off"...
I'm paraphrasing VERY VERY severely here because I honestly don't have the time to go through the entire previous thread searching for this.
but I believe it was WHAT, you , and tom that mentioned that "no lynch" is bad.
also , i remember it was specifically an ex-mafia guy, and i dont know 100% if it was scribble because scribble and i had a talk about this very game just before it ended, so it's either What that posted this, or Scribble wrote me this on steam.
You'd have to ask scribble to confirm or deny this, because i remember he used that conversation to confuse the fuck out of me in the last game...
THAT's where i got that a mafia guy (assumed it was What), said this along with tom and u... Please don't make me re-read that pile of crap again to double-check...
If i fucked up on who said it? please do correct me, with all the jumping back and forth that happened last game and the private conversations that happened aside, that's what i remembered happening...
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And so for being a killer? i understood from comments above that if you were a killer, you wouldn't wanna lynch someone because you'd accidentally hit a townie.
LOL.. i thought it was a passive role that if mafia tried to kill you , you'd kill them back? isn't that the killer? (at least, thats what i understood from brett's (or was it mikey's) half-assed comment on what you possibly are in game.
The way I see it again now it's that : you were better off voting NO LYNCH because the next day (if you were a killer), u'd have information from the cop, if any, and u can then KILL the right person and save us the trouble of lynching them because for all you know you might get 2+ reports tomorrow based on the scene, or the townies wouldn't believe your lynch request and force you to do the bidding yourself... Again THIS would have been a logical way to save the potential death of a townie, no?
If you still don't understand this, then i don't even know how to explain this further. You said "no lynching is bad" , then you went ahead and said "No lynch", I'm giving u the benefit of the doubt by saying that u might have a serial killer role or SOME kind of important role that needs the extra day to trigger, instead of just being plain mafia...
And now you go ahead and tell me im wrong with my logic:
so if it's either or scenarios, does that make you a mafia if you aren't trying to get a no-lynch to get the extra night? or simply illogical?
IBIS G0D
I'm going to go slow for you.
10/14 = 72%
Day one: No investigation
Day Two: Yes investigation
with me so far?
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lol ok Cyber I see where you got confused. We're talking about two different things.
First off, I went back and made sure I didn't say that no lynching was a bad idea before I confirmed it here, so you're mistaken there.
When you say killer, what you're referring to is a vigilante, someone who has the ability to kill a person but is on the side of the town. What I was referring to was a Serial Killer, someone who has the ability to kill another person but is on no team, and just needs to be the last person alive to win. Serial Killers want as many people dead as possible, until they are the last one alive.
I'm saying a No Lynch is bad when you don't know who you're targeting. You have a much higher chance to hit a good guy then anyone else.
What saying the town lost last game because of the no lynch is wrong, he doesn't know what he's talking about there. what he didn't know is that the mafia was half discovered already, and if it wasn't for their luck the game would have been over in the next day or two but for the good guys.
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