WCS themed Mafia Game

[brett friggin favre]

so...im not sure where to go from here.

[Locust]

Ya'll some indecisive bitches

Unvote

Vote No Lynch

[brett friggin favre]

Ya'll some indecisive bitches

Unvote

Vote No Lynch

actually that's the one thing we decided is bad.

[What]

Ya'll some indecisive bitches

Unvote

Vote No Lynch

Ok, i'm now 95% convinced that Locust is mafia, keeps changing his vote for a quick out, and again with the fucking no lynch vote, that in no way helps the town, only the mafia.

If he isn't Mafia then he is at the very least a hindrance to the town, since as I stated before, its vital not to throw a bunch of stupid votes up there so the mafia can't just come in and all vote for the stupid option themselves, we don't know how many mafia there are, so no one should be just building up votes at this point.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

here our my recommended votes

Masskid or chikun.
Save locust for day two.

[Nemesis]

1- ok, here's a few things that are confusing me nemesis.
Now you seem to claim that you're the best player among us (Tom seems to have agreed with this last game, but wtvr).
Last game you said that NO LYNCHING is the worst thing a townie can do because it it loses it's best weapon.
and not there you are telling the exact opposite? Or am i not understanding this correctly?
So yeay or nay on the NO LYNCH votes?
No but seriously, i dont fucking get it with ur post, it's like begging to say " Hey people! make sure you trust me! im the better player so u have to trust me with your lives even when i'm contradicting myself!"...
I'll have to pm tom about smthn first and update my vote if needed...

Ok, so here we can see Cyber breaking the first rule of Mafia, which is don’t get caught lying. I went through every comment in the last thread and no where do I even come close to saying that NO LYNCH is a bad idea. I’m the one who, after the rule is confirmed, starts with the NO LYNCH vote.
Rule of thumb in Mafia: Lynch the liars.

Nemesis what the fuck are you talking about, you know that voting no lynch is the stupidest fucking thing the town can do, since on day 2 guess what your in the same god damn boat as day 1, no real information and your down a man who the mafia kill. Like Cyber said, last game you realized how stupid voting no lynch was and now you advocating it, which means either you just went full retard or you are trying to pull some shit.

See, this is where I start to run into trouble with this game. I can’t tell if what is trying to cover for the mafia, or too stupid to know how the game works, so I’m gonna take the approach that e’s stupid.
Day One: None of the investigative roles have had the chance to use any of their abilities, therefore we have no information as of yet. No one has said anything so any votes cannot be based on reasonable suspicion yet. Mafia games are set up with more townies than anything, so if you take a random shot in the dark the chance of hitting the “good guys” is higher. If this is done you’ve now hurt your chance to get as valuable information on in the night, because you’ve either a) killed an investigator b)killed a doctor, causing the investigator to not want to reveal information as he will die that night c) kill a valuable role for no reason.
Now, if you lynch a Mafia or evil role the first night? You’re golden, but how can you be sure? That is the problem with your random lynch.

Now with what we do have: Nemesis's comments, when he confirmed he expressed his delight that whatever role he had could cause some really confusion or problems, now he is trying to subtly bait us into lynching him by supporting an option that he recognizes as being against the Town's best interests.

Here we have What lying as well. If you’ll notice I did not express “delight that whatever role he had could cause some really confusion or problems” I stated I was happy that this game had so many people, which would be more confusing. I ALSO STATED THIS BEFORE I GOT MY ROLE. You’ll see I confirm later on. You’ll also note that on my public wall Tom said he couldn’t send my role to me as my inbox was full. At the time of the post What is talking about, I had no role yet.

i think nemesis has smthn to hide but cant state it out loud for some reason. At first i thought he could be a mafia wanting a no lynch... but the way he made it obvious, it makes me think he was hinting smthn at us? perhaps a cop/killer wanting a no-lynch in order to carry out an investigation or kill during the night...
That intentional misjudgement, it makes me think that he's antagonizing people. Brett says it's a lynch-suicide? I dont believe so.
i think it has more to do with his night job, or else he'd be going all over the place defending his no-lynch idea. this somehow makes me believe he might actually be someone worth protecting, (i never though i'd ever say that! ENOUGH SAID.)

Can I point of the flaw in your first post? If I was a killer, would I not want people to get lynched? Would it not save me a turn in doing it myself? A serial killer would support the lynch of anyone in the game because it’s one step closer to winning and keeps the target off their back. Anyone who is eager to lynch is usually mafia or neutral.

With Rape, well I'm really suspicious of anyone who is still advocating no lynch. IT DOES NOT WORK. Day 2 will come, we will be down a person and not know anything more than what we started with. It is an illogical and foolish choice to make.

How is being down one person worse than being down two? How does that add up? How does lynching one townie during the day then letting one die at night IMPROVE your odds? You have to be lying, there’s no way you are actually that stupid.

What we have here are two people who, without coming out and saying it, totally support each other. They have also both clearly lied in this game. I’m not saying lynch them, but the choice is yours.
As an aside – I’m having fun! Good job everyone!

[CYBER]

Ok, so here we can see Cyber breaking the first rule of Mafia, which is don’t get caught lying. I went through every comment in the last thread and no where do I even come close to saying that NO LYNCH is a bad idea. I’m the one who, after the rule is confirmed, starts with the NO LYNCH vote.
Rule of thumb in Mafia: Lynch the liars.
Can I point of the flaw in your first post? If I was a killer, would I not want people to get lynched? Would it not save me a turn in doing it myself? A serial killer would support the lynch of anyone in the game because it’s one step closer to winning and keeps the target off their back. Anyone who is eager to lynch is usually mafia or neutral.

I'm pretty sure that in the last game, WHAT posted an assessment of what happened in the game, and he mentioned smthn along the lines of "you guys went for the no lynch and basically gave us the win because we could just pick you guys off"...

I'm paraphrasing VERY VERY severely here because I honestly don't have the time to go through the entire previous thread searching for this.
but I believe it was WHAT, you , and tom that mentioned that "no lynch" is bad.
also , i remember it was specifically an ex-mafia guy, and i dont know 100% if it was scribble because scribble and i had a talk about this very game just before it ended, so it's either What that posted this, or Scribble wrote me this on steam.

You'd have to ask scribble to confirm or deny this, because i remember he used that conversation to confuse the fuck out of me in the last game...

THAT's where i got that a mafia guy (assumed it was What), said this along with tom and u... Please don't make me re-read that pile of crap again to double-check...

If i fucked up on who said it? please do correct me, with all the jumping back and forth that happened last game and the private conversations that happened aside, that's what i remembered happening...
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And so for being a killer? i understood from comments above that if you were a killer, you wouldn't wanna lynch someone because you'd accidentally hit a townie.
LOL.. i thought it was a passive role that if mafia tried to kill you , you'd kill them back? isn't that the killer? (at least, thats what i understood from brett's (or was it mikey's) half-assed comment on what you possibly are in game.

The way I see it again now it's that : you were better off voting NO LYNCH because the next day (if you were a killer), u'd have information from the cop, if any, and u can then KILL the right person and save us the trouble of lynching them because for all you know you might get 2+ reports tomorrow based on the scene, or the townies wouldn't believe your lynch request and force you to do the bidding yourself... Again THIS would have been a logical way to save the potential death of a townie, no?


If you still don't understand this, then i don't even know how to explain this further. You said "no lynching is bad" , then you went ahead and said "No lynch", I'm giving u the benefit of the doubt by saying that u might have a serial killer role or SOME kind of important role that needs the extra day to trigger, instead of just being plain mafia...

And now you go ahead and tell me im wrong with my logic:
so if it's either or scenarios, does that make you a mafia if you aren't trying to get a no-lynch to get the extra night? or simply illogical?

[What]

Not that I don't trust you mikey, but i see no reason why we should wait for locust, especially when you give two choices for day one, meaning you could easily reccomend that we go with the other one of those choices on day two pushing locust back again. If we are relativley certain Nemesis is mafia with some sort of death ability that can fuck us, then we can't afford to hold off on another suspected mafia guy for no real reason. I think Asskid is just dicking around, perhaps a little hyper, but yes I think Chikun is playing up an angle.

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At Nem:
No Lynch is a retard move. Sure its a gamble, but the risk does not outweigh the reward. On day two we will have no more information and now be down an additional person. You know as well as anybody that the no lynch in the last game is what fucked you guys over since you had no more information than the previous day and were paralyzed with indecision. Your continued support of it despite how intelligent you come off as indicates to me and to others that you are trying to subtly bait us into lynching you, which you would only do if you were mafia and had some sort of death ability that will take out some members of the town.

[Nemesis]

At Nem:
No Lynch is a retard move. Sure its a gamble, but the risk does not outweigh the reward. On day two we will have no more information and now be down an additional person. You know as well as anybody that the no lynch in the last game is what fucked you guys over since you had no more information than the previous day and were paralyzed with indecision. Your continued support of it despite how intelligent you come off as indicates to me and to others that you are trying to subtly bait us into lynching you, which you would only do if you were mafia and had some sort of death ability that will take out some members of the town.

How would we be down an additional person? Honestly, in the grand scheme of Math, how is 1 bigger than 2? How is being down two people better than being down 1? The Red Wings played last night, when they took a slashing penalty did they say, "You know what? could you make it a 5 on 3 instead? we'd much rather be down two guys than one. It's clearly the right choice."

the reason we lost last game was because you got extremely lucky; I already knew scribble was one mafia, I didn't know the other. If you would have killed someone else Scribble would have been lynched the second day and it was only a matter of time until you. Lynching with no information is stupid, but please keep supporting that theory, because you're providing plenty.

[What]

P.s. Nem, you're also assuming it is a shot in the dark, not an educated guess based on how people are acting, you are trying to steer people towards an option that has proven to fail, despite whatever crap you're throwing up there, you want to go with people agreeing with eachother, right now it looks like Nem, Rape, and Chikun are espousing the same flawed logic.