WCS themed Mafia Game

[CYBER]

Here's the thing.
SAY, for the sake of argument, that i voted for someone else, like Locust, or kept it at wolf etc...
it would STILL not move the story forward since no one else voting others...everyone is speculating and going for the no-lynch option. If there were more people voting others, such as the amount of people that speculated locust is mafia, then at least we'd have an ALTERNATIVE to the current track we're going on..

Hell, i even thought about voting "no lynch" just to move for the next day because i feel like we're going in circles on this (HERE COMES THE MAFIA ACCUSATIONS for thinking about a no lynch to move the story when i held my case that i really don't like it)...
I was even considering posting a no-lynch vote, just to see who's REALLY eager to put the last vote #8, odds are that this person would be a mafia eager to lock the votes permanently without ppl changing their minds...

It would have been a nice bait going on... but honestly i couldn't trust that u guys would see it as a set-up trap... if that's smthn that wolf did...then i would have most definitely had people on my back claiming that im mafia for suddenly changing to no lynch the same way i targetted wolf (which i now see as stupid on my part after almost doing the same shit he allegedly did)...

So now the question is: What the fuck do we do now? There's only 1 locust vote, and most people are tending to a no-lynch, should we just follow with the flow? I mean we have what ? 5 votes so far? There's no fucking way that they're all mafia... Maybe some deluded townies? but we're going in circles here. Either some people step up and start voting people and say WHY, or move along with the no-lynch and let's hope that no permanent damage is done. It's getting kinda stale.. and am i the only one noticing that many people are afk?


Nemesis:.... Something is bugging me about you, and i hope you don't take this the wrong way but it's smthn i noticed just after tom posted the current counts...:
For a guy REALLLLYYYYY ADVOCATING for a no lynch... why havent YOU voted for a no-lynch yet in the votes?... Why urge US to vote for it... and yet you haven't either... it's as if u have some kind of 2-votes-in-1 mafia vote, or a politician kind of vote that would let you shift votes to where you really want them towards the end, especially if you were the last guy to vote?
I honestly don't know all the possible mafia-powers to guess, but that's smthn i read from tom's shit, and we DO have a warden in the races ....

It's kinda bugging me out and i find it counter intuitive to your goal... so whats the deal here? (this is me asking you to convince me why i should vote no lynch and help move the story till the next day, when you still havent... because right now im just downright fucking confused with all the shit u and what are pulling)

Brett's been iffy for a while with his smooth talking, but i've yet to get that " wtf vibe" that im getting from locust, nemesis, and What when they talk... whether they mean it or not... maybe it's just that im used to brett making sense on ula thread as opposed to the others (scribble and clanners had almost low to no input),

but still nemesis...
you claim to be a good player, hell im sure u are, and im REALLY ... REALLY begging myself to believe that u're not playing dumb and actually have a plan in mind (and nemesis, considering our history, that's saying a lot)... but if we're just gonna sit down and have a stalemate, at least prove urself the good guy, or give me some insight as to why u strongly believe in ur tactic of no-lynch that it's the best scenario. Are you counting on a bloodmage? or some wcs skill that is most likely in game? etc...

The same for What... u outsmarted me last time in the game... (well, i kinda fucked myself over, u're not THAT smart), but i hate that between u and nemesis, im leaning towards your "no lynching is bad" idea based on tom's input... you know where i stand on this... but please tell us at least who to target if you feel like you know something that we don't... because, maybe its just me, but im confused as fuck now with my vote, and i feel like whether i voted or didn't vote, it's not getting us anywhere. So who do u have in mind? and please prove urself right the way im asking nemesis to.

oh and again... why the no vote nem? u 2 what.

[What]

I have been holding off on voting waiting to see what develops but I guess I'll throw something up there.

I am positive that Nemesis is Mafia, or just a killer role, either way, no good. For the sake of moving things forward though,

I Vote Locust

He has consistently thrown votes around, expressing an eager and inexperienced player who doesn't care who dies or what happens as long as its not him. Why not Nemesis? I do not believe I can pull the votes for him at this time.

Also 90% sure Brett is also Mafia based on how he responds to his own changing opinions.

[Nemesis]

Why vote until I know I have the numbers? Also the longer it gets drawn out the more I learn.

I have also spelled it out several time Cyber, if you can't read then I can't help you.

Also What proves more and more that he's probably black and poor, which is hilarious.

[brett friggin favre]

Also 90% sure Brett is also Mafia based on how he responds to his own changing opinions.

it's funny because you say that after going with my initial vote, which was against locust, saying he was likely mafia for falling into wolf's accidental trap. now i'm more convinced he's just dumb (see carm's scathing post). in that regard, sure, lynching him would almost be as neutral as no lynch as he won't be much help either way. but if you vote him for being mafia and say i'm one of them at the same time...just go back to the first votes.

in response to me changing my mind, things change in this game. i listen to reasoning, i add my own thoughts, weigh the options, and state my opinion. if my opinion changes, it's because new ideas have been brought to light or i have had some sort of revelation about it. being swayed by facts is just logic, not a sign of mafia.

meanwhile, there's you, pleading with us to not vote no lynch, and just throwing your vote where you think you can get the most numbers, not caring who's lynched as long as it's someone, and disagreeing with the three other people who have been arguing for no lynch, but who haven't been throwing votes around. i'm going with the conservative folks on this and maybe that'll be my downfall, but at least i won't be the one leading the charge into the garbage disposal.

[What]

it's funny because you say that after going with my initial vote, which was against locust, saying he was likely mafia for falling into wolf's accidental trap. now i'm more convinced he's just dumb (see carm's scathing post). in that regard, sure, lynching him would almost be as neutral as no lynch as he won't be much help either way. but if you vote him for being mafia and say i'm one of them at the same time...just go back to the first votes.

in response to me changing my mind, things change in this game. i listen to reasoning, i add my own thoughts, weigh the options, and state my opinion. if my opinion changes, it's because new ideas have been brought to light or i have had some sort of revelation about it. being swayed by facts is just logic, not a sign of mafia.

meanwhile, there's you, pleading with us to not vote no lynch, and just throwing your vote where you think you can get the most numbers, not caring who's lynched as long as it's someone, and disagreeing with the three other people who have been arguing for no lynch, but who haven't been throwing votes around. i'm going with the conservative folks on this and maybe that'll be my downfall, but at least i won't be the one leading the charge into the garbage disposal.

My vote is not random, there is a reason behind everything. It is you picking up on the same flawed logic of Nemesis completely out of the blue which is suspicious as hell. Plus your the "we for sure got a blood mage, guys and that means someone comes back to life"
A: How do you know such a role exists
B: why would such a role revive people and not just act as a doctor or protector role to be true to game play
C: How is this role triggered? Can mafia revive as well?

You pulled a race, role, and ability out of your ass in an effort to make it seem like no lynch is totally okay since we can just bring that guy who the mafia off back to life when there is no way to no this, and no evidence to support it either.

[What]

In fact, im not gonna rush into this as of now: Unvote Locust

[Chikun]

Vote No Lynch

Looking for more(?) information and exposition from others before doing anything hasty.

[What]

God Dammit you stupid fuckers, we are gonna be hosed if you go with no lynch. It is only a lose-lose scenario with a slim chance of providing some useful info. NOTHING GOOD WILL COME FROM SUCH A VOTE

[acolyte_to_jippity]

God Dammit you stupid fuckers, we are gonna be hosed if you go with no lynch. It is only a lose-lose scenario with a slim chance of providing some useful info. NOTHING GOOD WILL COME FROM SUCH A VOTE

the way i understand it the likelyhood that you'll end up with 2 fewer innocents after this night is FAR higher than you ending up with one less innocent and one less mafia. why is that a good thing?

[brett friggin favre]

My vote is not random, there is a reason behind everything. It is you picking up on the same flawed logic of Nemesis completely out of the blue which is suspicious as hell. Plus your the "we for sure got a blood mage, guys and that means someone comes back to life"
A: How do you know such a role exists
B: why would such a role revive people and not just act as a doctor or protector role to be true to game play
C: How is this role triggered? Can mafia revive as well?

You pulled a race, role, and ability out of your ass in an effort to make it seem like no lynch is totally okay since we can just bring that guy who the mafia off back to life when there is no way to no this, and no evidence to support it either.

tom assured us a bloodbath, but didn't say it would be over fast. thinking wcs, that sounds like when you have a nebula and blood mage on the same team. people dying all over, but the rounds still last a while. this is why i say (with 90% certainty if i recall, though that may have been about something else), that we have a blood mage or similar role. i'm not sure exactly how it works, my guess would be a 1 or 2 shot use, or maybe 2 rezzing races (1 shot each), get pm'd with who was killed that night, and are given the option to resurrect one. i don't think they can rez someone who was lynched, that would just kill progress. i don't think mafia can resurrect either, but i could be wrong about that. i'm sure that there is a more traditional doctor role, but its hard to imagine tom would pass the opportunity to throw in this twist. i'm not using this as an argument that no lynch is fine, i'm saying that such a role's existence would minimize damage in all cases and would be particularly beneficial if we don't lynch anyone, because if we lynch a townie we're boned.

i see that you unvoted, and i think that's a good choice. given what happened in the first 2 mafia games (including the one that ended after day 1), the voters went with the first shoddy evidence and lynched a townie. so voting on shoddy evidence is only a good idea when you're lacking in power races, and you need to get a little lucky and in those games, vt's were common. now we have none, so the idea of no lynch can be entertained. we need to see who kills who and how, and if anyone comes back, who may have been investigated, what may have been found, all that stuff. that's our best shot, and if we lynch on shoddy evidence, we have a good chance to lynch a townie. a townie who we KNOW has powers that were meant to HELP us. in a standard game, you'll most likely lynch a VT, which isn't a big deal. but with all the power roles in play here...i don't feel like losing one because someone came up with rag-tag reason.