Huge ass list of balance suggestions

[Wolfenstinger]

I'm poking at kionay's weird as fuck post just so I can make sense of it and state things that I don't like that he sees. Maybe it can change his view, IDK.

vagas as a race are fine as is, you can use eye ra to see them instead of buying something, some of the less appreciated (or harder to use) races might be encouraged to get an ability to see vagas like ra does to have an insentive to play them?

Vaga is broke as fuck. Play Rapscallion. Rapscallion is better than Vagalion, let alone Vagabond. It's like playing a Flame Predator on Steroids! (Steroids not included). But no there is some things that I already pointed out for Vaga, as far as levitation goes at least. I also still believe Vagabond is faster than Vagalion slightly because of it, but I don't know. The Levitation and Adrenaline difference do matter when you are looking for them on the live server! Even if the race is utilizing ALMOST the same code to teleport around, Vagalions aren't going to be as random as a Vagabond can be, BUT a Vagalion can teleport more often than a Vagabond could ever teleport. Because of this, I don't really care at what the Levitation and Adrenaline is set at, due to the fact everyone who plays either race adapted and are used to these values already. Changing the values WILL mess with everyone who plays either Vagalion or Vagabond.

magician restrictions i think is a bad idea, the magician only needs to die once to lose those, bird is a magician's bread and butter really

I do want to state here - Magician USED to be able to use any weapon, but would always spawn the next round with a Pump Shotty / Dualies. Might've been a bug, I don't know. I just remember leveling it back then with an M4 or a compact because I didn't like the Pump Shotty or Dualies. Now I think it's weapon kit has grown on me a bit for its skill set and to just take time on the shots rather than spraying. The Dualies are for spraying.

Levitation - as annoying as it is when it procs for the shooter and the one being shot at, it really does its part for the Magician as he could technically just be a complete tease to his enemies. Also because of the use of a Pump Shotty; being allowed that pause gives time to react to the Levitation if it procs

Crow - Cloak is stupid. Ring and Health is fine.

weblines: MAYBE 1 second, if that
evade is pretty intense, but it's the spidey's most adventageous ability (arguable i suppose)

Ok, after reading this, I realized you put the ultimate critique first, then the ability. So...... I'm doing the complete opposite because it bothers me.

Agility - Spidey's Bread n Butter. If you can bhop or even at least chain jumps, you're getting away. Evade just ENSUREs that you won't fall over and die right away. I'm not gonna lie, Evade is annoying, but its Evade. And he's Spider-man.

Web Lines - .5 sec CD like Vagabond or let us do 2 shots (a V shot like he does in the movies) with +ability or +ability1. It'd be interesting maneuvering mechanics for Spider-man

when you say "god i hate {RACE}'s {RACE_ABILITY}!" then something done right (most of the time)
each ability that makes each race a little bit OP should be able to be countered with gamesense or aim, for example just earlier today gunslinger and i were going at it, he was a vagabond i was night elf, his lack of aim, my evasion, and my aim let me win more than half the time against him

he could've killed me with just a little better aim or movement, i could've killed him more with better aim or by buying a lace (which i did later), our engagements were genuinly fun and challenging and, in my opinion, an amazing example of what engagements should be like between any given two races

flavorfull and fun, with a little bit of swaty-palm intensity that you get playing a really hard level of a video game (analogies yaaaaay)

Evade Proc = Luck of the draw. Meaning they aren't a TERRIBLE shot if they hit you, but at the same time, they still hit you. They just didn't hit you.

Now about buying laces. Personally kills MY fun in finding any vagas unless they are people like Cyber, Hypanova(Predator), Ronnie, etc...? (I don't know all the well known ones off the top of my head. I know a few old ones though! ) But its more along when you get the lace rather when you already have it. The problem with already having it is that ALL vaga players will play as if you don't have one already (round 1). By round 2, they play semi-cautiously, but not TOO cautiously because you still don't have a lace. By round 3 - we either repeat round 2 because you don't have the money OR we change our methods slightly, adjusting for laces.

Quick-bind your lace to a convenient key (like on your mouse), bait the vaga into coming into close quarters with you, click the button. If it doesn't work, you either have bad positioning and can't figure out where the vaga you are fighting is, or I just make this sound easier said then done because I try to do stupid crazy things like around the corner knifing while you have a lace. I don't know.


TL;DR - I wanted to poke at kionay's post. Poke poke.