Prison Break Wars (Mafia)

[Blackmage]

Brett: How is a ninja and no cop any different from Godfather and only cop? Also, "catching" your teammate in order to clear yourself is called "bussing" in mafia

If phil is a lawyer, what version do we think he is? The epic mafia only bothers cops. Ibis and scum's versions don't exist. If it's a modified version, if it's town, remember we have 2 information roles. In the more likely case that he's Abuzzi, that's that, but I'd rather not lynch him till we see what we can learn about his claim.

Phil: In addition to wondering what your role does, if you're claiming Brett's mafia, he either needs to be a powered role, or you're claiming me too, because I saw him visit Mikey Night 1.

On Nem's claim, remember, beyond being just a main character, Lincoln was mentioned in the pre-game flavour. I take it you haven't shot anyone? However, that makes 5 active power roles claimed, with phil being a wildcard 6th. Be warned, the mafia has something in store still.

Mikey: Protect your own choice. Make the mafia guess this time.

Kion: The MAIN problem with your vote, beyond the later edit, is you didn't explain WHY you voted Nem. Unless it was just the quick vote was the entire reason. If you just are suspicious of him rather than actually wanting him dead, all you have to do is FoS: Nem, which stands for finger of suspicion. What all led to the vote?

And, basically final version of the list, deaders taken out:

BM: Micheal - Tracker
Brett: Haywire - Voyeur
Locust: DB - VT
Nem: Lincoln - Vig
Mikey: Sucre - Bodyguard
Kion: C-Note - VT
Lily: Maytag - VT
phil: Veronica - Lawyer
Wolf: Sanchez - none

Unclaimed of the "8", Abuzzi
Still no role for Wolf.

Votes:
BM: None
Brett: Phil
Locust: Phil
Nem: Phil
Mikey: Phil
Kion: Nem
Lily: None
phil: Brett
Wolf: Wolf
Other Way:
Need 5
Brett: 1
Nem: 1
Phil: 4
Wolf: 1
None: 2

[kionay]

Kion: The MAIN problem with your vote, beyond the later edit, is you didn't explain WHY you voted Nem. Unless it was just the quick vote was the entire reason. If you just are suspicious of him rather than actually wanting him dead, all you have to do is FoS: Nem, which stands for finger of suspicion. What all led to the vote?

retroactively fixing my fuck-upery

finger of suspicion... right

what do i color that? if the 'reason' i wanted to vote was how he was acting, is that suspicion?

fuck if i didn't read the rules and the mafia game wiki linked to me and not find details about this

i just... what

[Blackmage]

As it's not an official vote, you just bold it. It basically says "I don't trust you, and suggest other people pay CLOSE attention to this person". It's part of the game's slang rather than rules. And yes, player actions is exactly suspicion.

We don't expect you to know everything your first game. Well, most of us don't. This is a fairly simple game in order to help teach. Reading the wiki wasn't expected, it's just there as a resource to use. However, I brought up the "don't edit" part before we began, because it's one of the biggest mistakes you can, and people often do, make in a game. If you're confused after the game, and want to know anything, just let us know, or try to talk to Cyber now.

[kionay]

As it's not an official vote, you just bold it. It basically says "I don't trust you, and suggest other people pay CLOSE attention to this person". It's part of the game's slang rather than rules. And yes, player actions is exactly suspicion.

We don't expect you to know everything your first game. Well, most of us don't. This is a fairly simple game in order to help teach. Reading the wiki wasn't expected, it's just there as a resource to use. However, I brought up the "don't edit" part before we began, because it's one of the biggest mistakes you can, and people often do, make in a game. If you're confused after the game, and want to know anything, just let us know, or try to talk to Cyber now.

i started feeling fairly comfortable with the roles, till there were voyeurs, ninjas, and shit, some of which aren't in the IBIS roles post so i had to look on a wiki

then apparently me not saying much (because when i do try to say something i tend to up fuck or do something wrong) then i'm suspicious

gives for a bit of a "fucked if i do fucked if i don't" feeling

i think there should be a curmudgeon vote option

[CYBER]

Kionay, i will write this off as a newbie mistake, but like blackmage and others said, dont EVER EVER edit a post, ESPECIALLY a post that contains a fucking VOTE lol...

Like right now, i am going to assume you didn't vote. But on normal circumstances, this would warrant either your vote on nemesis to STAY with a severe warning, or insta policy lynch, especially at this stage in the game.

Anywho, now that i got my Modding's finger of disapproval (it's a thing shut up) out of the way, here is the current tally of the votes.

[brett friggin favre]

i'm gonna laugh pretty hard if wolf's mafia...

[Blackmage]

Kion:

It's your first game. You're supposed to make mistakes, and learn from them. You've made multiple interactive (read: useful) posts, and have been fairly active throughout. With the exception of the edit, you've been playing a fairly good game. Realize what we think is right or wrong isn't universal. Just look at the debate that came up from d1 Lynch/NL. We are just strong in our beliefs of right and wrong plays. If it confuses us, or we don't agree. it's obviously wrong.

Next, yeah, that role list really could use some updating. Problem was, mafia mostly died/went on hiatus right after that was started. But, the confusion that can arise leads to people somewhat describing what our roles are, as well as saying what they do. It's also perfectly acceptable to ask the player how EXACTLY the role works, such as what I've done with the lawyer claim. Sometimes there are variants anyway, but if you don't want to look it up, someone will likely explain if you ask. We've done a number of Role Madness games, where everyone has a role, which is more interesting for everyone, because we all have powers. Those types of games are FAR more confusing, but as long as you stick with your claim, you still usually won't need a wiki.

Not saying much is suspicious, because it gives us nothing to be suspicious of. Say old bastard had said nothing yesterday. We'd have had little to nothing to go on. Instead we used what he said against him. Activity can be suspicious, but from what you say and do, and that's the point. Parroting is better than being silent, it lets people know you are following the discussion. Being suspicious of everyone is also a part of the game. Everyone who was being suspicious of Nem when he didn't claim while trying to get everyone else to claim makes sense. Being incredulous my own claim before anyone else said anything makes sense. Sometimes the suspicion pays off, such as not trusting the bomb threat. For right now, realize that while some people may be suspicious of you, no one has actually gone so far as to VOTE you yet, which means they aren't that suspicious.

Oh, and curmudgeon votes happen a LOT on day 1

Brett: We could always have Nem shoot him at night. Would help clear Nem as well as check wolf. Or we can wait for wolf to claim a role and not just waste a resource, but that might not end with us shooting wolf.

[Old Bastard]

*Ghost of Bellick* Brett you son of a bitch, and Blackmage, I was learning lol.

[phil.™]

I honestly don't see how you guys are able to "believe" one sentence and automatically jump on the vote. Brett could easily be working with the mafia, to throw out weird/fake claims of his role just to confuse people, having them lynched to buy mafia another night. I'm fucking worthless in this town.

Phil, I'm the one who caught old bastard yesterday.....

Did you and bastard set this up? So you guys can throw people off?
http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/sho...(Mafia)/page35
I see here while everyone else is talking, you two are just having a conversation by yourself.. Well played. Well played.

And we're all sitting here not even considering wolf and that he's been quiet almost the entire time.
If i die, most likely Mikey or brett, (maybe mage) will die night 3 by the mafia.

[brett friggin favre]

I honestly don't see how you guys are able to "believe" one sentence and automatically jump on the vote. Brett could easily be working with the mafia, to throw out weird/fake claims of his role just to confuse people, having them lynched to buy mafia another night. I'm fucking worthless in this town.


Did you and bastard set this up? So you guys can throw people off?
http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/sho...(Mafia)/page35
I see here while everyone else is talking, you two are just having a conversation by yourself.. Well played. Well played.

And we're all sitting here not even considering wolf and that he's been quiet almost the entire time.
If i die, most likely Mikey or brett, (maybe mage) will die night 3 by the mafia.

Yeah, he was claiming my character, I pressed him on it.

Strange how you think I'm likely to die by the mafia, but also likely to be mafia.