lol well there's always one.Originally Posted by Lily
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lol well there's always one.
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well since no one is talking I'm going to bed. I'll be back at work.
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I'm a level 27 shaman. Just for you nem
Anyway I'm on the no lynch side, cyber won't be too crazy after the games last year, we can afford an info-gathering day
Through the darkness of futures past,
The magician longs to see
One chants out between two worlds:
Fire, walk with me.
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Anyhoo, I'm all for a no lynch info day
Info is our friend
A programming genius called HEAP
Had trouble in getting to sleep
So he made his lambs troup
through a huge FOR-NEXT loop
FOR 1 TO 10000: NEXT sheep.
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Well, the first question becomes, does anyone want to volunteer any information?
Given we have an unknown number of VTs, do we want those players to claim so we don't waste docs on them, or have them stay undercover so the enemy has a harder time shanking the power roles? Not claiming has the problem of letting people hide under the guise of VT when they don't want to claim later, but I think hiding our resources is a good plan.
If we suppose one of the "good" inmates has a "gun/shank", do we want them to use it? If it's one use, I'd say no, but if it's multiple use, it can be used in lieu of a D1 lynch, granted relying on the paranoia of one man. Though we might have a shank anyway if we have a SK.
Anyone want to venture and guesses as to the flavour, such as what the sides are like, or the setup? How many VT and mafia do we think we have? With 14 players, something around 9-5, 9-4-1, 8-4-2. Probably 3 to 5 VT. Mafia probably have 1 or 2 powers. Or do we want to just not make any assumptions? Do we think we have more than 2 sides? I'd assume not, but given how much loyalties shift, could be 2 mafia with 2 or 3 each. On the game flavour, I'm only about half way through the first season, and the only "true" enemies I can see are prison guard McDick and the government people. Everyone else are "good", begrudging allies, or wildcards.
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"People claim VT": A: No way to prove any claims, so I don't see the value. Why wouldn't mafia or a third party claim to be VT? No way to verify and its not like you can call people out on that since we will have a good number of them.
B: Even if all the VT claim, and everyone believes them, you just narrowed down the number of targets for the mafia significantly, which is a terrible idea.
C: VT are by their nature, relativity expendable, you don't want them all to die obviously, but if its them or town power role, like doctor or cop, you're going to choose VT to die all day. So you want them in there to generate confusion.
"Vigilante" A: Why would we encourage the vigilante, or some other role with a gun, to fire a random shot tonight? If you think its best to not lynch during the day, I fail to see how randomly killing someone at night based on one person's beliefs will be any better.
B: If its a serial killer, they need to be found asap. While they can kill mafia at night, its much more likely they will hit town since town should greatly outnumber the mafia.
"Players" With 14 players, I would guess 4-5 non-town, so it could be a few mafia and a serial killer or some other third party. We can make all of the assumptions we want about the set up, but at this point its pure speculation. Also, this was supposed to be a relatively simple game to work the new players in, not role maddness, so it should not be like there is a bunch of weird ass night powers going off.
I hit Brett right in the feels.
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Its understandable that day 1 is ALWAYS the longest and slowest day due to the usual lack of information and prior debates, but am I going to have to enforce a 2
36-48 countdown here or are people gonna start passing other ppl off? I mean, discuss?
I'd much rather avoid time limits, but they have been enforced in the past until story was on track.
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On a plus side. All plays officially confirmed since Tom confirmed reception by steam while busy with his graduation shit.
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Well, first, I let out the portion of that post mentioning I am generally against D1 no lynch. As someone once put it, "Lynching can kill scum, scum kills can't". Voting also leads to more information, ect. But given we already have 2 people suggesting no lynch, and not even 1 joke vote, I was looking for a way to still try to get a scum kill. I also DO trust most people here's judgement solo, more than I trust mobs. Also, if we come out collectively and say "don't shoot" rather than leaving it in the air, we make claiming "vig" harder.
On the VT claim. The information it could give us depends on what roles we think are in the game. If we have a tracker, watcher or role cop, we could check the claims. Town players could bluff as VT to hide power roles. Same as it lowers targets for the scum, it lowers the targets for our doc. If scum claim VT, our doctor wouldn't be protecting them either, so our doc would actually have an even better shot at protecting the right target. It's information we can use, just as they can. Since people are suggesting NL D1 for the sake of information, I brought it up. It's an option, I'll admit not a great one, but I'd rather not just dismiss something that could be of some use to people.
Flavour side of things, that's just me looking for any possible information. Since I'm not caught up on the show, input on who the bad guys of the show, and what scum profile they fit if any, and what kind of town roles we might have. Also, if people think Cyber would do 2 small mafia families or not. It's also good to know if people are on the same page about the size of the scum and power roles.
You never really know where things will lead, so I was just spitballing ideas, and trying to get as much information as I could.
Cyber: between new players, and college people, hopefully it'll get better soon. Early morning Sunday may have just been an awkward start time.
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