Quote Originally Posted by Blackmage View Post
The reason I haven't said anything is twofold. First, given certain parties decided to make the town's job much more dificult, in contrast to a plan I laid out, obviously my input wasn't required. Second, I was waiting to see how long it would take for ANYONE to mention I hadn't said a single word. Only took about 9 and a half days. I'll let you live in your delusional world and admit to anything you care to say if it so helps your ego. Sadly, you just can't seem to get it into your thick skull that sometimes dead horses should lie unbeaten, and that you can't actually change history.

If you want me to say something, here's you go. Phil made a claim, but has not fully claimed. Pass keeps suggesting he should cement the claim so "someone could CC". The only problem there is, unless we think Phil is the head WW, that's probably the worst move we have left to us. Related to that, clearing Phil because of no CC would be just as bad.

There are 5 roles Phil could be. If he's the head WW, he's doing a huge gamble. I strongly doubt he's the head WW, but if we think he is, we should just lynch him and win. This is the only case we want to push for a CC. If he's the minor WW, with what Pass is suggesting is, either he's cleared because the real PR doesn't CC, or else he IS CC'd, and we go to the CC case. If he's the minor vamp, while, yes, he's trying to clear himself, what he's also doing is helping the town. At night, if the WWs convert him, both of our PRs are still around, and they didn't mess with the masons. If he's the head Vamp, he does the above, only moreso, because it means he won't be converted. As a vamp, if he's CC'd, we CAN'T hit a werewolf, AND we out a PR to the WWs. If he's actually a PR, he can still be CC'd by a WW, and we may have to look at a CC case anyway.

If he DOES get CC'd, we have to decide if who is telling the truth. A failure means they have an extra kill AND an extra night. Success means kill something and STILL lose a PR.

Either we want to lynch him, or not. As I see it, we DON'T want a CC. Pass, maybe I'm missing something, but why are you pushing for him to possibly be CC'd?

Side note, Mikey, Ass, you might want to decide what to do with the faith healer. If you ARE planning on shooting someone, you want to find a way to NOT have the healer protect that person.
problem is, most of your post is irrelevant. Worrying about mafia or sufficing for mafia is bad. If and when all werewolfs are dead, its an auto win for town. Provided at least 3 town power roles are alive.
secondly, i noted you being afk, i noted your inaction to my phil vote, im aware. My observation of you hasnt changed since your attack on me. I still believe you to be mafia, however, mafia lynches are not the towns goal.
I want to be as clear as i can, YOU provoked me. YOU attacked me. Over something as trivial as an opinion you misunderstood. It is over kid, stop digging up graves.

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Quote Originally Posted by DJ_MikeyRevile View Post
problem is, most of your post is irrelevant. Worrying about mafia or sufficing for mafia is bad. If and when all werewolfs are dead, its an auto win for town. Provided at least 3 town power roles are alive.
secondly, i noted you being afk, i noted your inaction to my phil vote, im aware. My observation of you hasnt changed since your attack on me. I still believe you to be mafia, however, mafia lynches are not the towns goal.
I want to be as clear as i can, YOU provoked me. YOU attacked me. Over something as trivial as an opinion you misunderstood. It is over kid, stop digging up graves.
yo better explain how its an auto win.

If all werewolfs are dead (the result of lynching the alpha) that means 2 mafia remain. In the event the alpha is lynched, it gives all remaining power roles the ability to hard claim safely. Doing to limits the poll to lynch or vig kill from. After that is accomplished, town can either lynch the remainder and/or let vig kill. Process of elimination.

Secondly and probually the biggest... i feel like a majority of you who are fighting, including blackmage, are neglecting the fact that mafia cant be caught by the seer. As the seer only detects werewolf's.

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pre intowxicated, i apologize for any broken english.

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furthermore @ seer. Ignore the simple fact that your investigative results could end up being the person who get turned. The goal for town is to find and lynch the alpha. If you get a result saying non werewolf and they end up getting turned, or a thought crosses your mind about whether or not they were turned, ignore it and use process of elimination. The people who are potential targets for turns are not the alpha, there for, do not worry about them.

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also, blackmage. I will say it now and personally tell assassin, not to kill tonight.