Blade's Bastard Role Game!

[CYBER]

Wow, you don't play mafia very much, do you? Lightning rod is OFTEN used N0 in order to force a deathless night. It's one of the best ways to be able to use your other abilities.

i agree with sin and nem that sensor is an op ass role and u should have tried to not gamble with it until u've used the result,


that being said, only in IBIS would u find protection roles not protecting... *cough cough* mikey's no actions. (which i guess is a bit logical to not use permanently , but night 2 was too late then lol, so i dnt blame u much).


funny thing, if mikey actually used his role night 0 , blackmage, the lightning sensor, would have been permanently protected from night kills lol.



blade... the gladiator usage was not warranted man... other than the current shit being said, it owuld been a shot in the dark, but I WAS gonna target stars if i ever used it, as shown by my vote on him, and the chat we had before i died lol.

but using my ability blindly to force a lynch on someone randomly would have possibly hurt town AND made me look like the bad guy if i mislynched someoen....
so i was waiting for either me reaching L-1 to prove a point and bait out hammerers, (since that fucknig seemed like the fucking habit these days to randomly lynch me for no damn reason...).

that being said, i knew mikey was town, and i WAS going to fucking gladiator myself with stars to save him.... But as fucking usual, people hammer away without allowing that person to respond. And in fact dear town, KNOW THIS: hammering someone without a chance to respond is VERY VERY VERY scummy, and that should have been a given THEN to look at who hammered mikey... so stop doing that random reply-less hammering shit if you are town, it will make u look scummy and fuck up with people trying to look at the voting... just because u're an impatient fuck.

The fact was that i was going to use my ability to save mikey from that L-1 lynch (yes i know, i cringed at that idea too at first) by resetting his votes and putting myself as a confirmed town AND take out stars... but i was late by 3 hours because i was busy napping for a couple hours after 36 waking hours... had i been there 3 hours earlier OR if town learned to stop hammering people randomly without proof and reply, this game would have been done a long time ago...
u got lucky hammering me in the websites with zero information and without allowing me to reply... but this habit needs to go... now. or else mafia wont be a good logic game, just a who's being a luckier idiot game.

[Passarelli]

Cyber, it is scummy if they are wrong. Sometimes it is the best thing you can do, like when I won the game for town as Survivor and got the doublevoting scum lynched.

[CYBER]

As for my suicide, I did it because of the information given from Blackmage's death. It let me know that I was 1. confused (random); 2. paranoid (always guilty); or 3. insane (reverse results). Given that information, only one of those is useful (insane, when honestly I thought I was paranoid). Given the information I had at the time I came to the conclusion that my role was useless, which was why I self-voted. (I also wanted to spite all of you for saying self-voting is 'scummy')

ok so you DID pay attention to my post telling you that your investigation, whoever it was on , was on blackmage, and thus revealing to urself that u were not a normal cop :P
glad i helped, but dont fucking off yourself ffs...


Even IF you are paranoid or insane or wtvr, if u think ur role is useless (Which it wasn't in ur case), then the LEAST u can do is BAIT a mafia kill on the investigation role.
you make another investigation man, and then u post that u've done 2 investigations, 1 on blackmage (by lightning) and another by (for example me) and stars (for example)

and you go : I go I am a cop and i got guilty results on first 2, and a town on third, but i cant tell if i am insane or random!

this will let u know u are either insane or random, and i would have gladiator'd myself with stars and proven myself town AND took out stars.
Then MIKEY would have known that u are a cop when stars dies, and then he protects you PERMANENTLY for the rest of the game.
and if mikey ever got question'd and someone tried to hammer him or you, i'd gladiator myself again to save u guys.

EVEN better, sin would have motivated u , and given you the chance to investigate two people: SOMEONE RANDOM, AND YOURSELF.
By investigating yourself with that spare motivation, u'd finally be certain that u were insane after 4-5 investigations that were inverted and not random.

EVEN IF YOU were random, mafia would have went to kill YOU thinking you ARE INSANE. and mikey would have made damn sure that mafia wouldn't get a kill that night on u , and thus saving us for another investigation. When at ANY point your investigation result ends up wrong, we'd know u werent insane, and just random, and then we'd go from there since there are other roles...

Bottom line is, this was ONE scenario for EXAMPLE of shit u could have done with your powers.
im just saying that dnt give up... your eventual death woiuld have revealed info that u were insane (as blade said he would had u shared information at all)...

again, don't assume for YOURSELF only, you have to take into account that there are other roles in the game. for example a Psychiatric for example (if i am not wrong about the role name) has the ability to cure any sanity problems with cops if he randomly investigated u that night.... u know?

anyway... gg i guess, my only raging moment is that i hate ppl who hammer instantly AS TOWN... as mafia i'd get it, as town DONT DO THAT. wait for a fucking reply since they might at least SHARE INFO, unlike mikey and zambi's death

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Cyber, it is scummy if they are wrong. Sometimes it is the best thing you can do, like when I won the game for town as Survivor and got the doublevoting scum lynched.

no. that's totally different.
in the other game you KNEW that there was a double voter. THAT WAS A FACT.
and obviously u'd wanna lynch him before he lynches others because at that point it was NOT information gathering mode... but a "i know what u are and im making a logical deduction from it and act on it" moment...


MY lynch in websites, and zambi and mikey's lynch here... NOT EVEN remotely close to that logic.... it had NO basis, NO INFORMATION, no reasoning, no logic, and not helpful at all except if you wanna call every hammerer scum and lynch them... and with the way town plays, u're just lynching town idiots rather than scumtellers...

[Passarelli]

And in fact dear town, KNOW THIS: hammering someone without a chance to respond is VERY VERY VERY scummy, and that should have been a given THEN to look at who hammered mikey... so stop doing that random reply-less hammering shit if you are town, it will make u look scummy and fuck up with people trying to look at the voting... just because u're an impatient fuck.

So you are retracting that it is always a bad strategy?

Again, it isn't bad IF they are right about them being scum.

[hoshiro-]

if it helps i refrained from voting till people had something to say but they hammered you while i was gone

[CYBER]

So you are retracting that it is always a bad strategy?

Again, it isn't bad IF they are right about them being scum.

"Right" is subjective. The only thing you can be "certain" of is your own "OPINION, and JUDGEMENT" ... it is not a fact that you are "Right" or "wrong".

Until the mod actually posts the death scene, u can NEVER be 100% right. For all you know there was a mixup, a bus, a swap, an inverse, a modifier, an interruption from another role, a hidden modifier etc...



Side note, but i want to know EXACTLY what happened here, because i'm starting to think that some ppl are talking outside of the game based on a few precedence events....

And please, do tell me for example, trigger's shit at the end when killing minjae.

Trigger was a firefighter, not an investigation role. (i will refrain from argueing about why trigger lied about being douzed, because i already told blade before that i knew he was the firefighter and trying to tell us there's an arson possibility without outing himself. nt there, even if u had to lie to town.)

but this is where im being confused as fuck:

He got a motivation from sin which shouldn't do jack shit. right?
And then the nxt day, trigger walks in super excited and STRAIGHT UP VOTES MINJAE, immediately followed by a second vote from sin as if he believed trigger was a cop and he got 2 investigations off. And bam. minjae lynched instantly without any arguments.

That fucking vote with conviction right there made absolutely no fucknig sense unless trigger was the cop, which he wasn't.
So im curious to know how trigger immediately came back from night mode and started the wagon on a now-confirmed mafia GODFATHER....mmmmm??? he did not seem to know such thing the night before or he would have fucking definitely stopped a vote on mikey, which he didn't. but somehow, over night, he realized that minjae was a scum and immediately voted him...

Something's fucking bullshit there, and even blade can't figure out what happened AND HES THE FUCKING MOD with all the background omnipresence...

Either trigger somehow knew that minj was a GF, OR he just randomly started a wagon and tricked town into voting for someone WITHOUT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE...in which case FUCK U trigger for such gameplay and i would be upset too if i was minjae at that point, well because i WAS that guy -.-
again, ppl getting lucky and commended for killing a scum by pure RANDOMNESS and ZERO facts, and thinking that it's a valid thing to do in ecah game, when it could cost us a game sometimes, for example killing off mikey without facts...

please explain trigger. im curious to know what ur vote was based on.

[hoshiro-]

"Right" is subjective. The only thing you can be "certain" of is your own "OPINION, and JUDGEMENT" ... it is not a fact that you are "Right" or "wrong".

Until the mod actually posts the death scene, u can NEVER be 100% right. For all you know there was a mixup, a bus, a swap, an inverse, a modifier, an interruption from another role, a hidden modifier etc...



Side note, but i want to know EXACTLY what happened here, because i'm starting to think that some ppl are talking outside of the game based on a few precedence events....

And please, do tell me for example, trigger's shit at the end when killing minjae.

Trigger was a firefighter, not an investigation role. (i will refrain from argueing about why trigger lied about being douzed, because i already told blade before that i knew he was the firefighter and trying to tell us there's an arson possibility without outing himself. nt there, even if u had to lie to town.)

but this is where im being confused as fuck:

He got a motivation from sin which shouldn't do jack shit. right?
And then the nxt day, trigger walks in super excited and STRAIGHT UP VOTES MINJAE, immediately followed by a second vote from sin as if he believed trigger was a cop and he got 2 investigations off. And bam. minjae lynched instantly without any arguments.

That fucking vote with conviction right there made absolutely no fucknig sense unless trigger was the cop, which he wasn't.
So im curious to know how trigger immediately came back from night mode and started the wagon on a now-confirmed mafia GODFATHER....mmmmm??? he did not seem to know such thing the night before or he would have fucking definitely stopped a vote on mikey, which he didn't. but somehow, over night, he realized that minjae was a scum and immediately voted him...

Something's fucking bullshit there, and even blade can't figure out what happened AND HES THE FUCKING MOD with all the background omnipresence...

Either trigger somehow knew that minj was a GF, OR he just randomly started a wagon and tricked town into voting for someone WITHOUT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE...in which case FUCK U trigger for such gameplay and i would be upset too if i was minjae at that point, well because i WAS that guy -.-
again, ppl getting lucky and commended for killing a scum by pure RANDOMNESS and ZERO facts, and thinking that it's a valid thing to do in ecah game, when it could cost us a game sometimes, for example killing off mikey without facts...

please explain trigger. im curious to know what ur vote was based on.

For the vote on minjae, if you remember correctly I pointed out that either sin, trigger, or Minj was the one that killer bm. So I think what happened was that trigger confirmed that it wasn't sin so that leaves minj

[StarsMine]

Still regret taking a call from family rather then hammering minj and calling out Hosh.
Hosh, you worked your way into fucking my plan to fast.

[minjae]

I'd like to hear from Trigger as well. Seeing that he didn't have an investigative role.
But I think I knew his thought process.

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Yes I edited my post. I take back what I said. Hence that last sentence.

[hoshiro-]

Still regret taking a call from family rather then hammering minj and calling out Hosh.
Hosh, you worked your way into fucking my plan to fast.

Even if you hammered minj and called me out, sin already knew i was the forensic from the previous day so it wouldnt have work

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I'd like to hear from Trigger as well. Seeing that he didn't have an investigative role.
But I think I knew his thought process.

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Yes I edited my post. I take back what I said. Hence that last sentence.

Minj you actually did pretty good this time, i didnt suspect you until the end, gg